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Originally posted by djusdjus
Originally posted by Kram09
I can't believe nobody has commented.
This is really unbelievable. I just don't understand. Americans have had their rights stripped away, yet the sense of apathy by many (but not all) is frustrating.
The people need to be roused up and.....march on Washington in droves.
Do you make frantic comments when a baby wets itself? When a leaf falls from a tree?
This is a ridiculous posture and the OP should be thankful he got any responses at all to what amounts to drivel and fantasy.
Quote from : Wikipedia : Separation of Powers Under the United States Constitution
Separation of powers is the political doctrine which the executive, legislative and judicial branches of government are kept distinct, to prevent abuse of power.
This U.S. form of separation of powers is associated with a system of checks and balances.
During the Age of Enlightenment, several philosophers, such as John Locke and James Harrington, advocated the principle in their writings, whereas others, such as Thomas Hobbes strongly opposed it.
Montesquieu was one of the foremost supporters of separating the legislature, the executive and the judiciary.
His writings considerably influenced the opinions of the framers of the United States Constitution.
Strict separation of powers did not operate in Britain, a country whose political structure served in most instances as a model for the government created by the U.S. Constitution.
Under the British Westminster system, based on parliamentary sovereignty and responsible government, Parliament (consisting of the Sovereign (King-in-Parliament), House of Lords and House of Commons - was the supreme lawmaking authority.
The executive branch acted in the name of the King ("His Majesty's Government") as did the judiciary.
The King's Ministers were in most cases members of one of the two Houses of Parliament, and the Government needed to sustain a majority in the House of Commons.
One minister, the Lord Chancellor, was at the same time the sole judge in the Court of Chancery and the presiding officer in the House of Lords.
Thus, one may conclude that the three branches of British government often violated the strict principle of separation of powers, even though there were many occasions when the different branches of the government disagreed with each other.
Some U.S. states did not observe a strict separation of powers in the 18th century.
In New Jersey, the Governor also functioned as a member of the state's highest court and as the presiding officer of one house of the New Jersey Legislature.
The President of Delaware was a member of the Court of Appeals; the presiding officers of the two houses of the state legislature also served in the executive department as Vice Presidents.
In both Delaware and Pennsylvania, members of the executive council served at the same time as judges. On the other hand, many southern states explicitly required separation of powers.
Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina and Georgia all kept the branches of government "separate and distinct."
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Originally posted by K J Gunderson
I do not understand this thread at all.
The FEMA camps have been a fairy tale being told since about 9/11.
The patriot act already allowed for what the OP is supposedly introducing to us as a potential law.9
So both concepts in the OP are about a decade old. The only thing new about this thread is that it is now being used derisively toward 9/11 truthers for some reason.
ATS is an amazing little place sometimes.
Originally posted by VitriolAndAngst
There is NOTHING NEW here -- this topic if "FEMA CAMPS" -- they've been around since Ronald Reagan had them built.
The "Executive Order" to take over transportation and communications -- that's likely just re-invoking Emergency Orders already in existence that would otherwise expire. If we were at war or a flood shut down California -- you have to re-route roads and move cars. No big deal here folks -- this is just normal contingencies for dire emergencies.
The Patriot Act I and II basically ended the Constitution so it doesn't really matter what Executive order says what. Businesses can directly buy Congress people and the government can say you are a terrorist and do whatever without proof. Case closed. That happened a few years ago -- so why are we all of a sudden getting alarmed with Obama in the office? What changed?
Obama either has no interest in changing this status quo, or more likely -- can't, because the system has already become too corrupt.
I think 9/11 was "allowed to happened" or was intentional staged.
I do think there is Global Warming.
I think the Tea-baggers have a point about spending, but are really a bunch of folks driven by random fears and mostly noticing these problems because the President is black.
So let's not lump EVERYBODY into the same group of issues -- being against the "GLOBAL WARMING SCAM" was the last administration's story, because they got lot's of funding from Oil companies. 9/11 Truth is 100% against the Bush administration -- so it's stands to reason, that the two issues are not connected, except in a hodge-podge of fears. So, if the topic is now about "government power" -- then it should be about that. Whether they jail you for saying too much about 9/11 or jail you for jaywalking -- the issue at hand here is that they can just jail you for annoying the government.
But again -- this is about 4 years too late on sounding an alarm.