I hope this thread stays on the front page forever, so all can see how insensitive employers can be.
Good luck in whatever path you choose in life, I hope it improves for YOU.
My boss told me I can't visit ATS, page 19
reply posted on 17-3-2010 @ 09:25 PM by harrytuttle
reply to post by CleverNameHere
You didn't offend me because you weren't debating me, you were debating a brick wall.
You didn't READ what I was responding to. You ASSUMED I was responding the OP, which was a mistake on your part. Read the post I quoted and was responding to. Then you'll understand (at this point, a big assumption on my part) the perspective of my post.
You should spend more time making sure you understand the situation before waste your time arguing with an empty room.
You didn't offend me because you weren't debating me, you were debating a brick wall.
You didn't READ what I was responding to. You ASSUMED I was responding the OP, which was a mistake on your part. Read the post I quoted and was responding to. Then you'll understand (at this point, a big assumption on my part) the perspective of my post.
You should spend more time making sure you understand the situation before waste your time arguing with an empty room.
reply posted on 18-3-2010 @ 12:26 AM by Ferginator
reply to post by Misoir
Its plain and simple, i read your entire post looked Florida's laws and stuff like that. Nowhere does he have the right to fire you on these grounds. First amendment protects you mainly on this but also you can sew him if he fires you because of this. I best recommend you tape record him saying this, make sure you don't get caught and you can legally sew him and have evidence to prove he is blackmailing you saying he will fire you, on your unpaid break on your own property, for going to a website. You have rights he can't tell you that because that blackmail and very against the law to do. That is like my boss saying i can't have a girlfriend because im too young, im 18. You can go on here and he can't do anything about it because if he does then you are legally entitled to sew him for blackmail.
Its plain and simple, i read your entire post looked Florida's laws and stuff like that. Nowhere does he have the right to fire you on these grounds. First amendment protects you mainly on this but also you can sew him if he fires you because of this. I best recommend you tape record him saying this, make sure you don't get caught and you can legally sew him and have evidence to prove he is blackmailing you saying he will fire you, on your unpaid break on your own property, for going to a website. You have rights he can't tell you that because that blackmail and very against the law to do. That is like my boss saying i can't have a girlfriend because im too young, im 18. You can go on here and he can't do anything about it because if he does then you are legally entitled to sew him for blackmail.
reply posted on 18-3-2010 @ 12:36 AM by Ferginator
Originally posted by samlf3rd
reply to post by Misoir
Wow! Sorry to hear about your boss. He must do some work a little higher up than you know.
I would call a lawyer-especially because you weren't on their computer-then it would be different. Call your lawyer, ask them about the laws of your state-do it again-let him fire you so we can watch the dispute on t.v.!
He cannot tell you which web sites you can or can't visit on your computer and on you own time! Do not let him control you like this. I was so happy when I found this web site- a place where people with the same interests and curiosities can gather and talk about the science behind the cloaks, if we let your boss do this then my boss may too. And where will we all go?
The world is full of curiosity, it's human nature. So we want to know what that light is above Cleveland, OH. So things don't entirely match up in 911. And of course we simply want to know are we alone? When I look up at the stars I feel alone and lonely, I feel like we may be the only people looking up. The people who may/may not have the answers refuse to give us some insight and that's just wrong. It's wrong and inexcusable.
So do yourself a favor, and all of us-stand up for the last ounce of freedom we have.
Yes exactly listen to this guy. It doesn't matter what state your in they can't tell you what websites you can or can't go to because, in how you put what he said "because these websites lie and distort facts", then he could just say all blog sites and the entire internet is considered that. Seriously what website does have a lie in it or twist facts, go on politic sites its full of those with props.
Seriously there is no state where your 1st amendment can be violated if he doesn't like the website too bad for him its on your time not his and you weren't working on their property and it was all your stuff they can't fire you for their own opinions. Its not like you were on a pedo site or something its not doing anything illegal its a regular blog site just for conspiracies and other stuff.
You sure this guy wasn't just being funny?
reply posted on 18-3-2010 @ 11:05 AM by SilentBob86
reply to post by Blazer
The state of florida is a state where they can fire you for whatever reason they want.
For the OP, GO TO CORPORATE!
Report this skeezer to the corporate office for discrimination. He was discriminating against your own personal beliefs. It may not get any results, but you never know.
The state of florida is a state where they can fire you for whatever reason they want.
For the OP, GO TO CORPORATE!
Report this skeezer to the corporate office for discrimination. He was discriminating against your own personal beliefs. It may not get any results, but you never know.
reply posted on 20-3-2010 @ 06:45 AM by ofhumandescent
reply to post by Snarf
Very good advice you know what you're talking about.
Do any of you realize how expensive a good lawyer is much less trying to find one that is will to go up against a corporation?
The time involved, the corporate lawyers like playing a wait it out game, if your older they will consult the mortality tables (I work in the insurance industry)
And last, because of corporate espionage now days policies have become more strict.
Many companies do not allow, laptops, ebooks, cameras, recorders, any type of electronic devices not sanctioned by and used specifically for "the company".
Our company manual states this very directly.
Going to human resources, at my company that is a joke, the human resouce manager will ask you if you have tried to work this out with your boss?
Each company is different, so I can only give you one experience - but at our company all the managers and HR have a united front. Them against us and the pions are the us.
In my line of work, I deal with HR Managers and they tend to be the worse of the worse, the lizards that would sell anyone to maintain their almight dollar coming in and not losing their position.
The workplace has become a real cruel battlefield.
WD doesn't sound like much of a job, but it's a job in a country where jobs are being outsourced by the minute.
If you want to keep this job, shut up, do what your told, bid your time, look around for something better (I make close to 49,000 a year and am still treated like %hit). Go to ATS on your own time at home.
I also would suggest to watch what books you bring to work to read on your lunch hours. I have some books on UFO's and Conspiracies I would never dream of bringing to work, because people are nosy and will keep track of what you are reading. Giving away too much information about yourself is stupid and risky. Times are changing, guard your privacy and don't give out too much information on yourself.
As you get older you will see this is good advice.
When I was young I was a in your face love me or leave me, now I've come to realize in the work world, unless you own your own company, it is important to maintain a certain business facade in order to survive.
Again, I would strongly suggest, trust non of your coworkers, do not let them know your private business, they can and will use it against you if times and situations get worse. If you need a friend, buy a dog, they won't snitch on you ever.
I know I speak from experience.
Think of going to work like in the movie, "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" where the guy and girl are about ready to walk out on the busy street and he tells her, "now don't show any emotion - just look straight ahead and remain calm no matter what".............that's how it is now in the business world, act like just another pod person and you will do find.
Your boss is a pod person, dumbed down and will never wake up from the Matrix, accept that and that while you are working at WD one of your jobs is to get along.
Good luck, your boss sounds as phitty as my boss.
[edit on 20-3-2010 by ofhumandescent]
Very good advice you know what you're talking about.
Do any of you realize how expensive a good lawyer is much less trying to find one that is will to go up against a corporation?
The time involved, the corporate lawyers like playing a wait it out game, if your older they will consult the mortality tables (I work in the insurance industry)
And last, because of corporate espionage now days policies have become more strict.
Many companies do not allow, laptops, ebooks, cameras, recorders, any type of electronic devices not sanctioned by and used specifically for "the company".
Our company manual states this very directly.
Going to human resources, at my company that is a joke, the human resouce manager will ask you if you have tried to work this out with your boss?
Each company is different, so I can only give you one experience - but at our company all the managers and HR have a united front. Them against us and the pions are the us.
In my line of work, I deal with HR Managers and they tend to be the worse of the worse, the lizards that would sell anyone to maintain their almight dollar coming in and not losing their position.
The workplace has become a real cruel battlefield.
WD doesn't sound like much of a job, but it's a job in a country where jobs are being outsourced by the minute.
If you want to keep this job, shut up, do what your told, bid your time, look around for something better (I make close to 49,000 a year and am still treated like %hit). Go to ATS on your own time at home.
I also would suggest to watch what books you bring to work to read on your lunch hours. I have some books on UFO's and Conspiracies I would never dream of bringing to work, because people are nosy and will keep track of what you are reading. Giving away too much information about yourself is stupid and risky. Times are changing, guard your privacy and don't give out too much information on yourself.
As you get older you will see this is good advice.
When I was young I was a in your face love me or leave me, now I've come to realize in the work world, unless you own your own company, it is important to maintain a certain business facade in order to survive.
Again, I would strongly suggest, trust non of your coworkers, do not let them know your private business, they can and will use it against you if times and situations get worse. If you need a friend, buy a dog, they won't snitch on you ever.
I know I speak from experience.
Think of going to work like in the movie, "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" where the guy and girl are about ready to walk out on the busy street and he tells her, "now don't show any emotion - just look straight ahead and remain calm no matter what".............that's how it is now in the business world, act like just another pod person and you will do find.
Your boss is a pod person, dumbed down and will never wake up from the Matrix, accept that and that while you are working at WD one of your jobs is to get along.
Good luck, your boss sounds as phitty as my boss.
[edit on 20-3-2010 by ofhumandescent]
reply posted on 20-3-2010 @ 07:02 AM by ofhumandescent
reply to post by deadlyhope
From what I am hearing most employers are that kind of employer.
Do you have any idea how hard it is to find a decent job out there?
Jobs in America are getting less and less by the minute, not even day now.
I'de love to work at home and by pass all the office "games" people play.
From what I am hearing most employers are that kind of employer.
Do you have any idea how hard it is to find a decent job out there?
Jobs in America are getting less and less by the minute, not even day now.
I'de love to work at home and by pass all the office "games" people play.
reply posted on 28-3-2010 @ 09:36 PM by Bentnutt
reply to post by RecentlyAwaken
He was using Sprint wireless. Which means he was using his provider. Just wanted to throw that in. Other then that I agree 100%.
He was using Sprint wireless. Which means he was using his provider. Just wanted to throw that in. Other then that I agree 100%.
reply posted on 7-4-2010 @ 08:45 PM by JustJames
reply to post by Misoir
Dude If that Was My boss Everytime he farted he would scan for wifi coz id shove my laptop up his ass. In fact bro next time he is an idiot im gonna call him for you and say " Hi im James From England, we have had a survey and it appears 98% of the british public think your a Knob Jockey"
regards and best wishes dude!
Dude If that Was My boss Everytime he farted he would scan for wifi coz id shove my laptop up his ass. In fact bro next time he is an idiot im gonna call him for you and say " Hi im James From England, we have had a survey and it appears 98% of the british public think your a Knob Jockey"
regards and best wishes dude!
reply posted on 12-4-2010 @ 09:40 PM by EzraBuckley
reply to post by Misoir
No matter what anyone tells you, your break time is YOUR time. Technically, your boss isn't allowed to say one word to you about work or policies while you're on break. Ordinarily this isn't worth fighting over--who cares if a boss spends 30 seconds talking about something while you're trying to eat a sandwich or whatever. But in cases like this, you need to assert your rights. The courts will back you up, but you don't even need to go that far. Just threaten to go over his head--district manager most likely if you're at a convenience store. He likely won't let it get that far, but if it does, fine. Tell the district manager you know your rights. They'll fold.
Do NOT let them push you around.
No matter what anyone tells you, your break time is YOUR time. Technically, your boss isn't allowed to say one word to you about work or policies while you're on break. Ordinarily this isn't worth fighting over--who cares if a boss spends 30 seconds talking about something while you're trying to eat a sandwich or whatever. But in cases like this, you need to assert your rights. The courts will back you up, but you don't even need to go that far. Just threaten to go over his head--district manager most likely if you're at a convenience store. He likely won't let it get that far, but if it does, fine. Tell the district manager you know your rights. They'll fold.
Do NOT let them push you around.
reply posted on 12-4-2010 @ 10:05 PM by v3_exceed
Originally posted by EzraBuckley
reply to post by Misoir
No matter what anyone tells you, your break time is YOUR time. Technically, your boss isn't allowed to say one word to you about work or policies while you're on break.
This is GREAT advice...if your objective is to become unemployed. I can't believe the sheer lack of intelligence on this thread.
Originally posted by killer4281
no he cant fire you for visiting a site on your break if he does then you could sue him for everything he is worth which dont sound like much but what do you expect from a media influencd person
While on work property, you are required in most places to continue to reflect the professionalism you would during your regular shift. This is very common, and enforceable by your employer.
Originally posted by Ferginator
reply to post by Misoir
Its plain and simple, i read your entire post looked Florida's laws and stuff like that. Nowhere does he have the right to fire you on these grounds. First amendment protects you mainly on this but also you can sew him if he fires you because of this.
Your first amendment protects your free speech from your GOVERNMENT, not your job. Gawd have you actually read your constitution?
Your employer really can tell you what you can do on your break, and can fire you for no reason at all, providing they either give you severance pay, or notice. Your employer isn't obligated to provide you with a job, and challenging them is just inane.
Originally posted by ofhumandescent
reply to post by deadlyhope
Do you have any idea how hard it is to find a decent job out there?
Jobs in America are getting less and less by the minute, not even day now.
This is actually very good advice. If you are lucky enough to have a job, keep it. Then if you choose to find another one, make sure you have it before you leave this one. Before you actually take advice on this or any other forum consult a lawyer, preferably one that isn't just in it to bill you.
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