My boss told me I can't visit ATS

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posted on Mar, 16 2010 @ 10:41 AM
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I feel for those that have trouble from their bosses or companies when visiting websites, I too am now having trouble with mine for visiting ATS.
They are now monitoring ATS ( I think others as well, but none of the regulars that I visit on my breaks have the 'warning' page that ATS gets). I understand the need to watch over staff if they are surfing when they should be working, but when its YOUR break, why would they care ?
Just sounds like companies are being paranoid, I know MINE IS.
I won't say which one either but its in the city of London.
I only check ATS when I'm on a break but other sites such as facebook, twitter AND Youtube are now unblocked? which raises my suspicions as to their intentions towards their staff.
Maybe a few 'firings' may keep the internet usage down in the future?.?.?.




posted on Mar, 16 2010 @ 10:59 AM
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surfing the internet while on the job is not a right , its a privilege

most work places i know of and where i visit while i do my support have blocked everything that has nothing to do with the work they do, simply because people just sit in front of the net and dont do what they are paid to do.

woops my cig&caffine brake went 20mins over

woops i left one cup and 2 spoons open woops

mmm porn, we want that to eat up the bandwith we use for the company

etc etc etc

if you can do it at home do it at home , its as simple as that

and as mentioned before free speech goes both ways
you can say green and your boss can say yellow
only difference is your boss can tell you to take a hike.
unless your job contract states that your job is to say green.



posted on Mar, 16 2010 @ 11:07 AM
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Man, why are you so afraid of making a stand? Tell him to stfu and mind his own bussines!



posted on Mar, 16 2010 @ 11:13 AM
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Your story reminded me of the time in 1973 in the service I had a powered blue '64 T-Bird. God she was beautiful.

I found a nice bumper sticker in Haight Ashbury. Colourful, which added to the T-Bird words written in scroll font, simply said,

"Bring our Junkies Home!"

Referring to the known drug problem in Viet Nam and was clearly a tongue in check protest bumper sticker. I had no troubles on base however every time I entered the local town I was pulled over by the local Leo's and the Bird including all riders were searched. Fortunately for us each time (took twice before I grew up and removed the sticker) when a Leo started following us we swallowed our weed so there was nothing found. On the second pull over the Leo was ex Special Forces and saw my jump ring so we talked about Bragg and a few war stories. He said loose the sticker otherwise I will have this pullover action every time a Leo spots the sticker.

I removed the sticker then and there on the spot and never was pulled over again in the Bird. God I miss those days, the smoke and my army buddies the best friends ever....

Back on topic.

How much time are you prepare OP to loose over this issue. Go to work mind your own business go home and enjoy what your hard earned dollars provide you with.

There are other ways to protest the real important issues that are presented here on ATS.

I wonder how many people who advise you to fight ever been in this position.

I have.

Having the Retail Clerks Union back Safeway illegal action of not giving my High School job back made me mad, so mad that I went to University. I did a year of economics and a year of business law among other courses. Both of these courses served me as well as my degree in life. My degree was worthless when I moved to the UK as I started my own business importing specialists’ computer products from Huntsville Al. Working for myself set me free from the BS of a boss. Having said that, I was my own worse boss, driven to work long hours. I am now retired although my military hospital time has caught up with me and I am now disabled I am comfortable and would not be had I continued to just work for the man.

With what I learn at Uni I had a case against the Retail Clerks Union and Safeway. I am glad now I did not know my rights then as I do now. I moved own (pissed off) and put my time in other jobs and going to Uni. It took 6-drop outs when money was gone as I had no help from parents and lived by myself, which is expensive in the Bay Area. I found new jobs for a few months to save up and add to what little the GI Bill paid but when I graduated I had no student loans. Tons of great memories of Uni some jobs that sucked, later in hindsight, had taught me much. I am so glad I did not waste my life arguing with the likes of Safeway. I did my protest in Uni and now pay the price for that. However those protests were worth doing and did not work as we now have Iraq Vets Against the War. Nobody listen but the Leos with movie cameras at the protest marches. At least in my soul I know I tried to make a difference.

To end this story I worked for my NY Company in outside sales in Ca and in 4 year promoted and took over IMHO the best territory of Ca. Marin County and Napa along with Sonoma Valley as an area before pagers and cell phones. I called on that Safeway and since my company paid them quarterly checks to display our product the way we wanted it to and not the Safeway managers way! I enjoy enforcing our contract to the letter. There were some quarters I did not issue their checks and had taken pictures of non compliance more times than I needed to prove my point ergo my back passage was covered and the Manager - that’s right the one who refused my job back really got it in the back from Safeway head office. He tried to make me an ex disgruntled employee. However I left my job to volunteer to serve my country received a couple of medals and two Honourable Discharges, which prove he had no case. My company was so happy with my proformance I was promoted several times therefore there was no issue with them except Safeway was non compliant therefore for those quarters no checks were issued
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The last thing I like to pass on to you mate is this. In LA I was being trained by my company how to fill out our expense account, our call reports and legalities of our job - I was taught this important lesson, which prove right many times but even better after I was promoted. Simply put;

"Be careful on the way up, the people you meet and how you treat them as you don't know the people you will meet on the way down."

I got my own back on Safeway and it was a pleasure in doing so. What I learnt in college allowed me to move to the UK and start a business in computers when computers cost £5000 - £10000 each. It was a time when one with a few balls could start a business and end up working as an independent for the computer trade. BTW I had no computer training in college I was headed for a business major.

If you are going to protest make sure it counts.

Just MHO....

Edited as I am not a gifted writer like many on this site and had to correct errors.

[edit on 3/16/2010 by IceHappy]



posted on Mar, 16 2010 @ 02:18 PM
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post removed for serious violation of ATS Terms & Conditions



posted on Mar, 16 2010 @ 02:37 PM
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Your at work so uh... your boss probably just doesnt want you in the tinfoil hat mindset while helping customers. I wouldn't want my employees reading about how the swine flu vaccine is microchipping people or that the twin towers were knocked down via a death ray satellite.

Even if it was on your break your there to help people. You arent there to uncover all of the worlds darkest secrets. I dont blame your boss... read ATS after works done. Lately I've been trying to stay away from this site because of the sheer amount of bs that everyone seems to blindly believe or perpetrate.

ATS is like one of the last sites you should spend your time on just because of the mental health threat alone. Not trying to bash the OP or ATS, but spending all your time here really serves no purpose, especially at work. The last thing I'd want to have going through my head while working is that we're being poisoned with chemtrails or that the govt is run by aliens



posted on Mar, 16 2010 @ 02:48 PM
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I have been around the block a couple times, you want this guy off your butt?

Make a label with his name & address, attach it to a Man/Boy magazine, run it through a copier, then send it in anonymously to Win Dixie headquarters.
Add a note that says this pervert is sexually "harassing" you at work.

Then tell them that you are on the verge of contacting the police, State's Atty, and a lawyer, if this doesn't stop.

On a big lawsuit they can't take the chance that it could be true, and they did nothing to stop it. And the big shots care no more for his job, than he does for yours.

Or if you want something simple just to settle up the score, try greasing his car door handle, shifter, radio knobs...and especially don't forget to grease the windshield wipers!

If you have people that try to 'play the game' with ya, you need to teach them the rules...LoL



posted on Mar, 16 2010 @ 05:40 PM
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Now if he does this, and gets fired in the process, are you going to help him when its time to pay the bills or will you direct him to the nearest soup kitchen?



posted on Mar, 16 2010 @ 05:42 PM
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reply to post by Misoir
 


I'm sort of an expert in employment law. I worked in employment litigation and I sort of know the reality about suing your employer.

If you need the money, take the money but definitely look for something else while you're working. One of the problems with suing your employer is the cost. You have to pay an attorney, and most of the employment attorneys just take your money and never really do anything.

That's a frustrating lesson to learn. We're not as free as the propaganda says we are. The reality is, you need a job. You sometimes have to bite the bullet and take the money while you find friendlier turf.

Best advice is never argue with a moron, the moron always wins because there are other morons backing him up. Individualists usually stand alone. We're always here. Go home and log on.



posted on Mar, 16 2010 @ 05:58 PM
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No one *needs* a lawyer to do anything at law. They're capable of doing it themselves for free if so desired.



posted on Mar, 16 2010 @ 05:59 PM
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I like playing with fire.

I'd start discussing how you heard someone other than you talking about Unionizing.

See - I have lots of integrity, but I learned sometime ago to Kill It With Fire when someone else doesn't and decide to make me target.

Best is to Kill It With Fire without it being traceable back to you, but everyone knowing it was.

Being fair to those who are fair, and instilling fear and trepidation into those that aren't.



posted on Mar, 16 2010 @ 06:10 PM
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Originally posted by mryanbrown
reply to post by VitriolAndAngst
 


Is that what Right to work means in Georgia?

I used to think it also meant that. But when I actually started reading the laws on it. I found out that Right to Work meant the right to work without being a member of a union. You have the right to work without being in a union. The right to let you go without cause is a seperate issue.


The "freedom FROM union law" also means freedom to have NO Union. Tacked on is the ability for an employer to fire with a "reason" but no documentation. It makes it easier for an employer to get rid of a dead weight employee. But it also means -- you only need a REASON. Will anyone have to prove the reason? Not within reason, no.

So it's pretty much in practice, a Fire-At-Will state with whatever excuse you can dream up, and you cannot be pressured to join a Union to protect employment, wages and benefits -- oh dear -- protect me from job security!

>> The only benefit is that if you DOCUMENT your grievance before the firing, then they will have to document some problem with you. So, employees who don't make a stink, actually can be fire easier. My wife worked in a temp government position down-town, and there was a lady who accused the department head of sexual harassment after not getting her way. She was a gold-bricker, and was really underwater on an SUV, so it was about getting money.

They COULDN'T FIRE HER, because it would look bad for the case -- it's not just my wife's opinion on that, her own Lawyer said to the department head that she couldn't find cause, and if it were up to her, she'd get rid of her client.

So, Employers have a headache from trouble-makers, and are rightfully defensive. However, if you just anger an manager, and make a stink about something that is not well defined or protected -- you are leaving yourself exposed. Unless someone violates your civil rights, it's not going to be something that you could probably defend.



posted on Mar, 16 2010 @ 06:14 PM
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Originally posted by mryanbrown
reply to post by freecitizen
 


No one *needs* a lawyer to do anything at law. They're capable of doing it themselves for free if so desired.


Anyone going into court representing themselves has a FOOL for a client. You don't HAVE to have a lawyer -- but there is so much procedure that actually directs the case and whether you can win or not, you are very likely to lose in court regardless of merit. Will you know to ask for discovery, a continuance, mitigation or what it means to declare "nolo contendre." I certainly don't.

I'd sooner try and change the wiring in a race car than go into court without someone who has practiced law.



posted on Mar, 16 2010 @ 06:16 PM
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Please do not be frightened by the you-sue-you-never-work-again people.

It just isn't so.

If your employer is doing things that are unethical and illegal you can absolutely sue. If your case is good enough, your attorney will do it for a take on the proceeds.

Eating # is not part of the employment deal. You are not an indentured servant. You are not company property. Even if your boss or company wants you to think otherwise.

You fearing them is in their favour. Unless they do you favours, you don't do them the favour of having fear.



posted on Mar, 16 2010 @ 06:18 PM
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Originally posted by Misoir

Originally posted by Aliensdoexist
reply to post by Misoir
 


Plain and simple I would tell him if he tells me what I can and cannot do on my own private time with my own personal items that him and my Louisville Slugger are going to have a meeting with his kneecaps. If this was during working hours with a work provided laptop I would say he is justified in his actions but if its your laptop and your not getting paid for lunch then he has no right. A better course of action would to just keep doing it till you get fired then call a Lawyer.


Great post.


This is my laptop and there were 3 other people out there on their laptops too. We are not paid for a lunch break. Actually I should turn him in because he makes people work overtime with their average hourly pay and people are not allowed to take their promised paid time off or they will get fired. But where I live either you keep the job you have or you have no job.


Do it, for some reason he doesn't like you and he's letting you know that he doesn't like you. It would be good to go to Human Resources and file a complaint after finding out your rights and responsibilities. This way if HS is siding with him you will have amunition to help you fight your supervisor and your HS in the store. Are you of another nationality or race, because if that is the case he may be biased against you because of that. Also don't take it lightly, he literally threatened you with being fired for doing something that the others where doing, so if nothing else HS should have him away from being your supervisor and/or out of the store.



posted on Mar, 16 2010 @ 06:20 PM
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Originally posted by John396
I have been around the block a couple times, you want this guy off your butt?

Make a label with his name & address, attach it to a Man/Boy magazine, run it through a copier, then send it in anonymously to Win Dixie headquarters.
Add a note that says this pervert is sexually "harassing" you at work.

Then tell them that you are on the verge of contacting the police, State's Atty, and a lawyer, if this doesn't stop.

On a big lawsuit they can't take the chance that it could be true, and they did nothing to stop it. And the big shots care no more for his job, than he does for yours.

Or if you want something simple just to settle up the score, try greasing his car door handle, shifter, radio knobs...and especially don't forget to grease the windshield wipers!

If you have people that try to 'play the game' with ya, you need to teach them the rules...LoL


>> What you are saying actually could work -- and that's the really sad part of it.

But I think, people who are decent, really cannot deal with doing something this evil. You will be haunted by what you do, or maybe branded by it with a reputation. Such a job is not worth it if you can find another -- and if you do, you are likely better off.


>> If you sue, you will definitely have lawyer fees, and you can lose, or they can let the case take years to go through. What will you do in the meantime as other's have stated? And can you ever make a living from the time and effort it takes you to get the money through the courts -- and even if you do get a reward -- you may have to sue to COMPEL them to pay up. Did you know that?

If you don't do something evil and pretend to have a civil-rights or harassment case, you don't really have leverage to STAY at the job while the case is looked at.

I think what you are looking for is a lost cause and you are better off keeping the manager happy and logging on at home. Life is not fair and you need to come to terms with that sooner than later.



posted on Mar, 16 2010 @ 07:20 PM
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Human Resources from all major companies should be reading this thread I am sure it would provide them with some very valuable intel. Some good and some bad.



posted on Mar, 16 2010 @ 07:23 PM
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Who does your boss think he is? Are you a slave of his or a free man. He cant tell you what you can and cant do while your on your own time. I would look into this and get a lawyer. If he said jokingly "ah man I don't want you on that site" thats one thing. But telling you hell fire you is another. Who does he think he is? He cant threaten you because he doesn't like the site. I vote to talk to a lawyer on this!



posted on Mar, 16 2010 @ 07:24 PM
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How does this website distort facts?

This is a database of information inputted by hundreds of thousands of people of unknown origin.

Every view on every major issue probably exists here.



posted on Mar, 16 2010 @ 08:10 PM
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It distorts facts by things like Buzz Aldrin saying we should go back to Mars (clearly talking about unmanned missions), and ATS interpreting it as we have sent manned missions to Mars and the whole thing is being covered up.

Or the FEMA prison camps, that's a good one also. Then there was the thing about a bunch of plastic coffins that were being stored in GA. All of a sudden people here are posting about how they've started the extermination plan... just stuff like that.

Then theres the one about the government infiltrating conspiracy sites and that we have 'disinfo agents' traversing the Internet and crap and that it's all part of the plan to tricking America into believing that conspiracies dont exist... the list goes on and on





 
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