My boss told me I can't visit ATS

reply to post by Misoir


Yes and my boss said I couldn't list my company's name as outsourcing to India.

If you work in a grocery store the compay policy may be different, but where I work we were told, it is against regulations to bring a personal lap top into work as well as to read e-books during lunch.

Possibly you might want to look over your company's book of rules and regulations.

Either way, if you upset your boss there are a thousand and one little ways this person can make your 9-5 life unpleasant.

The people you work with are the last sorry souls you want to know your personal business. What websites you frequent, now days that's too much personal information you're giving them and stuff like that can and will be used against you.

Your boss has got the clout of a corporation behind him/her.

Corporations now rule America.

Read my location.

I imagine your boss is a low level corporate goon, but a corporate goon never the less.

I've learned the hard way, the more information you give out to both your co-workers and boss the higher they will hang you.

[edit on 16-3-2010 by ofhumandescent]

Originally posted by Springer

Yes, if he was on the store's owned/leased real estate then they have every right to tell him what he can and can not do.

I understand your point but how far is that allowed to go? Keeping in mind that this is on his off time, could the store him what phone calls he is allowed to make or receive on his personal cell phone? If the website was twitter instead of ATS would they be still justified firing him if he used twitter on their property in his off time?

I understand the rights of a company to enforce the rules they make for people , employee and customer alike. However, I still feel it is unjustified to attempt to control a persons online surfing when they are using their own internet service on their own time visiting a family friendly website such as ATS. And I stand by my recommendation to report the incident to a superior above the general managers head.

your state laws might not really matter
if you live in a state that is basically 'at will employment' and you get fired, you're going to have to prove that you were fired because you were looking at ATS.

Unless your boss is a complete moron, i'd doubt he's going to admit to it.

SO you have 3 choices

1.) Stay at your job. Listen to your boss & do what you're told
2.) Leave your job, find another job that will let you do whatever you want (good luck)

3.) Keep doing it, get fired, try to fight it in court, lose, and find another job.

Thats just my opinion of it.

I have nothing against ATS< i love it here. But the reality of the situation is that your boss is abusing his power, and you really have no way to prove it except "your word vs. his"

[edit on 15-3-2010 by Snarf]

reply to post by Misoir


This seems to be a form of violation of free speech. Your activity is not affecting your work performance or bothering customers.

He has no right to dictate what you can think or not think on your own time. Document all harrassments by him and take them to human resources but be aware Winn Dixie seems like a component of the good ol' boy Southern extablishment.

Do what you feel is necessary, but like others have said, don't take legal advice from anyone on a conspiracy theory forum, lmao. I highly doubt any of them are Board certified in your state to be giving you ANY kind of advice.
Take everything with a grain of salt.

If you feel your rights were violated, contact an attorney's office and get a consultation. It would be your best bet.

Good luck to you, sir.

DanK

I'm not an attorney, I can't tell you what legal actions you have a right to take. I used to however be an Employment Specialist for the labor department, and I can tell you that if you cause trouble you'll most likely be fired. If you don't care about your job or having a reference from this job, do whatever you gotta do. If you rely upon this job, don't cause any trouble.

Hey friend. I believe you said "weekend job". Just get a different one if you can. Should be plenty of part-time work out there if you need it. Some "managers" are self-important also, which may be this one's problem.
I personally believe that you have more "on the ball" than your manager, since you're already on this site, and furthermore; he is probably afraid of that independence. Just my guess. I'd venture to say he is a very insecure individual also.
Good luck, and hope you find a better place to work weekends.

How much a better place this world would be if all these close minded people just did the world a favor and died or all moved to there on private island.

not sure if its been mentioned as i skipped a few pages....

with all do respect, is there any reason due to your performance AT work that your boss is looking for reasons to dismiss you due to "Just Cause" labour laws?

and remember "Just Cause" is not just cuz.....

Originally posted by Misoir
I want to make it clear for everyone.
I am using my own internet service through a Sprint wireless Datacard.
I am using my own personal computer.
I am on the companies property.
I was on my unpaid lunch break.

 

[edit on 3-15-2010 by SkepticOverlord]

Just eliminate the "I am on the companies property." and you'll be fine.

I would always open two web pages whenever i was a work.

That way you could delete or minimize ATS with just a click of the mouse.

When you are on ATS just park the pointer on the red X and if he walks in all you have to do is click and all he will see then is some safe for you web page.

Better yet open a gay web page as you fallback web page.
Then if he sees it and fires you can claim discrimination.
articles.directorym.com...

You would not even have to be gay to use this as it applies if he fired you for going to gay web sites.

Its what he thinks your sexual orientation is that counts. Not your real sexual orientation.

Oh by the way even if he did fire you for going to ATS you would get unemployment as it would not be misconduct.

The state unemployment office keeps records of thing like this.
and if a company fire to many people for BS like this there rate for unemployment insurance will go up faster then companies that fire just for misconduct.

Oh and get a little clip on web camera and if he tells you you can't go to a web site if you have it set up right you can record him in the act.
The employment office would love that plus after you were fired you could post it on the Internet on you-tube and send a copy to the CEO of the company.
He might get fired then.

Well I'm from the UK, so I can't really comment on employment law in any US state, but it seems to me that he doesn't have a leg to stand on. You were using your own equipment on your own time. Unless you're bringing the company into disrepute (and it would have to be strongly proven in court that visiting ATS can do this), I'd say you're fine.

This however, is based upon UK employment law, which is very much in favour of the employee in these matters. You really need a bloody good reason to fire someone in the UK, otherwise you're looking at an unfair dismissal claim getting shot straight down your throat!

Having said that, you work in a convenience store dude. There's plenty more jobs like that out there. Get yourself another job. I don't know how old you are, but I would recommend bar work over store work any day (if you're old enough), as the pay is better, you get tips and the customers are way more fun... especially after a few drinks!

[edit on 16-3-2010 by nik1halo]

Tell your boss I said he is a total jerkoff.


How dare he tell you what you can read and do in YOUR OWN time


People like him bring out the aggro side of me.

Ask him who died and left him charge of the thought police. If my boss dared to do that to me, he'd be biting of a whole lot more than he could chew.

Close minded, ignorant little sheeple.

res

Originally posted by Misoir

Originally posted by Blazer
Depends on your state laws. It could be one of those states that they can terminate you for any reason they want (or no reason at all). I would suggest looking for another job immediately and then tell your boss he is a closed-minded idiot and can find another obedient cog for his workforce.

In Florida I think they can fire you for any reason.

Nonetheless, Florida is a part of the country we call America. The U.S. And there are still rights AMERICANS have to protect them from such things as this. Seriously...I'd do some research on your rights. Maybe even call a lawyer to get some free legal advice. Depending on what you find, react in kind. Do not be a doormat for anyone!!

Edit: Also, go over again through your company policies and employment manual. Because unless there is a clause within any of that...he is basing his judgement on his own personal beliefs and feelings on a matter. Then IF he tries to fire you, you may also have just cause to file suit for wrongful termination. Still get free legal consultation and do the research on employment laws etc. I seriously do not believe he has any clout in this. Employer/not! Maybe even call the company corporate office!

[edit on 16-3-2010 by Persephone1]

Know someone else you can trust at work who hates him who will distract him for a while?

Then you can get on his laptop, find a site that specialises in underage girls and download as much as you can.

Then ring the FBI and report him.

Seriously, I don't know if I'd go that far, but if you think hard enough about it, I'm sure you will find a way to remove this problem from your life...

Originally posted by Misoir

Originally posted by Blazer
Depends on your state laws. It could be one of those states that they can terminate you for any reason they want (or no reason at all). I would suggest looking for another job immediately and then tell your boss he is a closed-minded idiot and can find another obedient cog for his workforce.

In Florida I think they can fire you for any reason.

im in florida and i work in retail as a supervisor, and no - they CAN'T fire you for any reason.

reply to post by Dank513


Well it's funny you say not to take advice from some "conspiracy theorists" as some of us "conspiracy theorists" MIGHT be in the human resources field, have studied this stuff for 4 years and have quite a good grip on what he should, could and cannot do.

But then again, it's much better to just classify us all and claim we have no knowledge other than forming wild, imaginative stories for our own entertainment.

I got fired for my bumpersticker in Kentucky.

It said gay old pedophiles GOP, and it is clearly a political reference. I parked in the smoking area of the daycare, where kids and parents never go, it was employee parking.

On smoke break my coworkers (this was my first day) saw the bumpersticker, and told the director I was a gay pedophile.

The director fired me on the spot.

I called my local media who ran a story on my case, as I was outraged at this civil rights violation.

I say civil rights because apparently I CAN be fired at will.

However, due to her comments in the article, it seems I COULD have had a case, if I found an attorney to accept it, and had about ten grand for retainer.

I learned a huge lesson from hat incident, but let me tell you this, I would have quit my job there if they hadnt fired me because those people and their lack of intelligence SCARED me.

Of course I fought back the only way I know how to, with my big mouth.

Getting my story out helped me a lot.

Bosses can fire you for any reasons.

I would consider reading any book by George Hayduke.

Good luck in your situation. My only advice is that if you feel strongly you have been wronged, try the local media.

Originally posted by Springer
Nobody on this thread is giving anything other than their OPINION or their personal advice.

I haven't seen one member start their thread with "I am an attorney and this is what you should do".

Let's get over that part.

This is a discussion board, one of our members posted an experience he had at work and asked us for what we thought.

That's it.

Oh and for the wannabe lawyers out there, ATS has no clue what the "true identity and location" of ANY of our members are.

Why would we? HOW would we?

Seriously, the guy asked for our opinions and suggestions.

His boss is apparently a power tripping punk who is in a dead end job and hates his life so much he wants to be a dick to those who under him (and who he probably knows will be way more successful in life).

Yes, if he was on the store's owned/leased real estate then they have every right to tell him what he can and can not do.

That aside, why would anyone want to be such a jerk to an employee?

To make himself feel BIGGER, that's why...

Pitiful.

Springer...

So telling the poor OP to illegally and surrepticiously record his boss to use in court is not legal advice? Sounds like evidence gathering advice to me.
I can understand why you, as one of the owners of ATS, would be concerned that a member of your site is promoting the illegal interception of oral communications. There have been numerous members advise that the boss's actions are unconstitutional, that he has violated the workers 1st amendment, that he should seek remedies from the EEOC or Labor Board.

your boss is obviously an alien.....maybe he was taken over by the body snatchers...?
anyway the only option you have is.....KILL YOUR BOSS!!!