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Topic started on 13-3-2010 @ 05:34 PM by Aquarius1

Friday, 12 March, 2010

Stone Age people invented a form of clock that enabled them to tell the time of day, the seasons and even latitude, an author claims in remarkable new research.

And development of the device led to the mysterious Silbury Hill in Wiltshire becoming the prototype for pyramids in Egypt and around the world and also the basis of the English system of measures, says Peter Watts, a retired electrical engineer from Somerset, England.

After 15 years of study, Peter has concluded that Stone Age people were maths wizards thousands of years before the Ancient Greeks who are thought to have been the pioneers in geometry and trigonometry.

Peter’s theory is that a simple model, developed at Stonehenge and based on a 3:4:5ft right-angled triangle and a vertical pole to cast the sun’s shadow, calibrated at the spring or autumn equinox, enabled latitude to be determined in terms of angle and pole height, as well as the time of day and year, anywhere on Earth.

This was millennia before the Chinese and Egyptians developed the gnomon for the sundial – the upright that casts the shadow.

www.unexplained-mysteries.com...

Silbury Hill, Peter says, was the result of experiments with pendulums and poles on these beaches and at various prehistoric Wessex sites, where other quantities such as the ratio pi and its value were determined. These measures, including the value of simple square roots, were then embedded in the dimensions of Silbury Hill and went on to form the basis of all English measures, including the foot and, significantly, the rod, pole and perch.

I believe that there were advanced civilizations that have come and gone, many may have been more advanced than we are today, the finds seem to indicate that more and more.

reply posted on 13-3-2010 @ 06:06 PM by Conclusion

It could be true. I mean think of what they had to do to put the stones on their end. They were definitely thinking of something. Nice find. S&F

reply posted on 13-3-2010 @ 06:09 PM by dampnickers

For a very long time, I have argued that the peoples of the British Isles (Eire and Albion), were far more technologically advanced than we give them credit for.

They had trading links with Egypt's Pharohs, worked fine jewelery in gold and other precious metals, and so on.

There is something special about the UK and Ireland (as we know them today), and I hope that someday soon, the false histories we have been taught will be discarded so that real research can begin into mankinds origins.

I do not for one second believe that any one community is better than another, but I do believe that a long time ago, we (mankind) lived and worked together, and were very technologically advanced.

reply posted on 13-3-2010 @ 06:36 PM by spikey

reply to post by Aquarius1

Yes, i agree this does tend to lend further credence to the view that advanced human civilisation are a cyclic phenomena.

Fascinating as this find is, the real question for me is why could a highly technological civilisation be cyclic i.e. rising and falling, learning and forgetting. Is it humans warring and destroying ourselves? A virus or plague wiping the majority of humanity in these advanced civilisations, leaving the survivors scattered and technologically bereft?

Or could it be a reoccurring threat from space, that regularly pummels humanity and literally thrusts us back to a pre-civilised, low technological barbaric state?

These odd, unexpected finds that force a re-evaluation of our history, appear to crop up every now and then don't they. These advanced technological methods may have been the last echoes of an all but extinct society on a par with out own, before this knowledge too was lost to the act of basic survival.

Greatly interesting, but disturbing at the same time.

Thanks for the post.

reply posted on 13-3-2010 @ 07:42 PM by hoghead cheese

Originally posted by spikey
reply to post by Aquarius1

Yes, i agree this does tend to lend further credence to the view that advanced human civilisation are a cyclic phenomena.

Fascinating as this find is, the real question for me is why could a highly technological civilisation be cyclic i.e. rising and falling, learning and forgetting. Is it humans warring and destroying ourselves? A virus or plague wiping the majority of humanity in these advanced civilisations, leaving the survivors scattered and technologically bereft?

Or could it be a reoccurring threat from space, that regularly pummels humanity and literally thrusts us back to a pre-civilised, low technological barbaric state?

These odd, unexpected finds that force a re-evaluation of our history, appear to crop up every now and then don't they. These advanced technological methods may have been the last echoes of an all but extinct society on a par with out own, before this knowledge too was lost to the act of basic survival.

Greatly interesting, but disturbing at the same time.

Thanks for the post.

As I have said before, in our ancient past we where an advanced culture that had communication and contact with other people on the different continents. You look at Baalbek, the Pyramids, Puma Punku the underwater megaliths/quarries off the coast of japan and these few show that somehow this world was turned on it's head because of some cataclysm that happened. Every culture has a great flood myth, just wiki it. And it's one of two things, either the reversing the poles of the planet which would cause earthquakes and massive flooding (just imagine sloshing water or whatever liguid from one end of a 2 liter bottle to the other and thats what the water would be doing on a reverse pole shift). Or when the last ice age or the Ice age before last it started to warm up and due to the fact that the ice age lowered the sea levels at least by 150 to 200 meters. Once the ice starts to melt, the areas that where considered dry would be under hundreds of meters of water (remember almost all ancient cities are always by a large body of water or ocean or river).

And if you don't believe that check out for one of the coast of England areas under water that used to be considered dry land where individuals lived. I think much of these ancient cities are under water and soot.

reply posted on 13-3-2010 @ 11:00 PM by Aquarius1

reply to post by hoghead cheese

Once the ice starts to melt, the areas that where considered dry would be under hundreds of meters of water (remember almost all ancient cities are always by a large body of water or ocean or river).

Absolutely right, Graham Hancock has investigated and researched many underwater cities, in fact he wrote a book about it called Underworld, a number of years back he did some diving off the coast of Japan I believe.

reply posted on 14-3-2010 @ 08:30 AM by Shane

Originally posted by Aquarius1
I believe that there were advanced civilizations that have come and gone, many may have been more advanced than we are today, the finds seem to indicate that more and more.

I do enjoy your Topics and the line of Thought you have on subjects.

Many within the ATS Forum would tend to dismiss this topic simply due to the two words you used.

Word 1: Graham
Word 2: Hancock

Do not misunderstand, I am very open to G.H.'s presumptions and certainly do hope these thoughts he has, become at the least, the basis of discussion and research in more mainstream areas, but this is likely a wishful thought I have that, will never occur.

To many LIEs need to be PROTECTED to consider things like this.

And for your info, I have also two words which always recieve a great response.

Word 1: Barry
Word 2: Fell

To the Topic, and your views, I do believe MAN (Modern Man) has a RICH and AMAZING Origin, that at some point allowed for abilities we still only dream of achieving.

What does, or did, the other 90% of that mass of grey matter between our ears do or is capible of.

Now in some cases, it is clear that it is just filler to space the ears apart, and occasionaly we see posters that appear to confirm this

, but that is another topic.

IT is the Knowledge and abilites we LOST at some point, which I believe we may be in the process of reclaiming at some point in the not to distant future. (2012 ?)

But I would also like to bring another thought here that may be the simple explaination to many of these sort of things we find around the globe.

Enoch Chapter VIII.
1. And Azâzêl taught men to make swords, and knives, and shields, and breastplates, and made known to them the metals 〈of the earth〉 and the art of working them, and bracelets, and ornaments, and the use of antimony, and the beautifying of the eyelids, and all kinds of costly stones, and all colouring tinctures. 2. And there arose much godlessness, and they committed fornication, and they were led astray, and became corrupt in all their ways. Semjâzâ taught enchantments, and root-cuttings, Armârôs the resolving of enchantments, Barâqîjâl, (taught) astrology, Kôkabêl the constellations, Ezêqêêl the knowledge of the clouds, 〈Araqiêl the signs of the earth, Shamsiêl the signs of the sun〉, and Sariêl the course of the moon. And as men perished, they cried, and their cry went up to heaven . . .

It may well have been the involvement of the Fallen and their teachings that resulted in many of these wonders we baffle at today.

Afterall, it is these enities wishing to be gods and goddeses and deities of worship, that are found in the Mythos of most cultures.

Just wished to offer this for consideration as to how this knowledge may have been gained.

Have a good day

Ciao

Shane

reply posted on 14-3-2010 @ 12:57 PM by Aquarius1

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Thanks for your response Shane, as far as Graham Hancock is concerned he has brought us much to contemplate over the years , Graham does not claim to have proof of everything he writes about and on the other hand I don't buy into everything, nonetheless it is food for thought and research, isn't that what it's all about, I rarely dismiss anyone out of hand, isn't it our responsibility to discern what we hear and read and not shoot the messenger.

reply posted on 15-3-2010 @ 11:23 AM by hoghead cheese

Originally posted by Aquarius1
reply to post by Shane

Thanks for your response Shane, as far as Graham Hancock is concerned he has brought us much to contemplate over the years , Graham does not claim to have proof of everything he writes about and on the other hand I don't buy into everything, nonetheless it is food for thought and research, isn't that what it's all about, I rarely dismiss anyone out of hand, isn't it our responsibility to discern what we hear and read and not shoot the messenger.

Thats exactly right, Graham Hancock puts out a question and then attempts to answer it through his research and other peoples research. Like you I don't agree with all of Hancocks assumptions, but he does ask the questions that many don't want asked. He did dive off the coast of japan and showed the quarry/megaliths. Some of the scientists say it's natural and I don't buy that one bit, because if you let the ocean drain out by 200 meters at least much of that place would be dry land. Also he demonstrated in an article that it's possible for an advanced society to disappear and for the survivors teachings to be forgotten and distorted.

reply posted on 15-3-2010 @ 02:25 PM by Harte

Originally posted by hoghead cheese

He did dive off the coast of japan and showed the quarry/megaliths. Some of the scientists say it's natural and I don't buy that one bit, because if you let the ocean drain out by 200 meters at least much of that place would be dry land.

And how does that indicate a non-natural origin for this obviously natural formation?

And, sorry, but every scientist says it's natural, not "some."

Also he demonstrated in an article that it's possible for an advanced society to disappear and for the survivors teachings to be forgotten and distorted.

"Possible?"
Who has said it isn't?

It's "possible" that there's a donut shiop on the Moon. I doubt that there is though, considering there is no evidence that there is one.

Harte

reply posted on 15-3-2010 @ 02:39 PM by randyvs

reply to post by Aquarius1

Hi Aquarius

I was just wondering , Do ya think they ever forgot to spring forward and and consequently showed up an hour late for work?

Like my wife did yesterday.

reply posted on 15-3-2010 @ 02:57 PM by Aquarius1

Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by Aquarius1

Hi Aquarius

I was just wondering , Do ya think they ever forgot to spring forward and and consequently showed up an hour late for work?

Like my wife did yesterday.

No, of course now I don't have to worry about it since I don't work anymore, or at least for the moment, am retired but getting really bored. I am sure your wife wasn't the only one who did it...

reply posted on 15-3-2010 @ 10:58 PM by Maegnas

Originally posted by Aquarius1
reply to post by Shane

Thanks for your response Shane, as far as Graham Hancock is concerned he has brought us much to contemplate over the years , Graham does not claim to have proof of everything he writes about and on the other hand I don't buy into everything, nonetheless it is food for thought and research, isn't that what it's all about, I rarely dismiss anyone out of hand, isn't it our responsibility to discern what we hear and read and not shoot the messenger.

(emphasis, by bold, added by me)

Does he have proof, solid proof, of anything he writes about?

reply posted on 16-3-2010 @ 04:19 PM by Byrd

Originally posted by hoghead cheese You look at Baalbek, the Pyramids, Puma Punku the underwater megaliths/quarries off the coast of japan and these few show that somehow this world was turned on it's head because of some cataclysm that happened.

The megaliths are just geology, Baalbek has a very long history (9,000 years) but they did not bring in the huge stone slabs until the Romans with their engineering took over the place in 100 AD. en.wikipedia.org...

The Egyptian pyramids were built over a period of about a thousand years. The three on Giza (most people seem to think there are just 3 pyramids in Egypt) were built about 2400 BC (2500 years before Baalbek.)

Puma Punku was built about 600 AD, 500 years AFTER the big stones at Baalbek and 3,000 years after the pyramids: en.wikipedia.org...

I don't see how a cataclysm could explain these as "forgotten technology", particularly since many civilizations have written histories that cover this time period and don't show a huge cataclysm in any of these times or afterwards.

Every culture has a great flood myth, just wiki it.

Actually, not all of them do. Just the ones that live in areas where one of two things happen -- they have frequent flooding OR they were converted to Christianity in the 1600's and merged local stories with Bible stories.

And if you don't believe that check out for one of the coast of England areas under water that used to be considered dry land where individuals lived. I think much of these ancient cities are under water and soot.

Sonar hasn't found any so far.

reply posted on 18-3-2010 @ 09:21 PM by HarlequinRaven

We are constantly finding out that our ancestors were quite a bit more intelligent than we assumed them to be, so this does not really surprise me. Humans have a bad habit of attributing anyone and everything that is not, well, them with a lower intellect. Ancient humans had the same intellect that we did, so it should not be surprising that they had the same talents. Knowledge is lost and regained constantly. Just look at the "dark ages" of Europe.

reply posted on 18-3-2010 @ 09:28 PM by Aquarius1

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Welcome Raven, agree with you, why is that we think that we have evolved from stupidity and there wasn't anything before us, science is definitely guilty of this, the fact is they are verifying things that have been known for thousands of years and not admitting it.

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