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Why Phil Schneider went Public.The BIGGEST SECRET

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posted on Mar, 14 2010 @ 09:41 AM
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Originally posted by ElectroMagnetic Multivers
I'm sorry are you saying Phil Schneider garroted himself with a catheter?!?!? That's far fetched even for ATS mate, maybe even skunk works.


Could you tell us why that is far-fetched? A catheter could as easily strange someone as anything else.

[edit on 14-3-2010 by DoomsdayRex]



posted on Mar, 14 2010 @ 09:45 AM
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Originally posted by Kandinsky



Making sharp comments about members is lame. Supporting people that make those comments is doubly so



Lame indeed. Especially when you are guilty of exact same yourself.
If I empathize with the OP that is my prerogative.
Like we say in NY...you got a problem with that?

Why not disagree and move on?
Let people who wish to have a discussion have a discussion.

For F's Sake

Still talking, and all she heard was blah, blah, blah, whine, whine, whine.
Baby get the bottle......I only understand things that make sense.



[edit on 14-3-2010 by rusethorcain]



posted on Mar, 14 2010 @ 09:48 AM
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Originally posted by m0r1arty
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Perhaps, living in the opposite side of the world from where I was born and doing community development for those who don't have basic commodities such as water, electricity and internet access whilst dealing with poor healthcare and dietary needs does make time for BS less available.

I'll take it under advisement.

-m0r


Very good of you and you should be admired but unless your travels took you to Dulce - I don't see how your comments are on topic.



posted on Mar, 14 2010 @ 09:50 AM
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Like we say in NY...you got a problem with that?


I guess you didn't understand my earlier post....it seemed so clear at the time.


Schneider huh? DUMBS and crazy aliens in a commune. Surveyors with guns? Nonsense



posted on Mar, 14 2010 @ 12:17 PM
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In the Text from the link to Metatech.org is at the very end an
interesting sentence.
Just wanted to mention it.

Quote:
My husband Michael and I were told by someone who knew Phil what it was that finally drove him to go
public.
Apparently one day he was asked to be present at a meeting of the New World Order in an underground
base. He saw roughly 160 world leaders seated in an auditorium. But down the front there were 12 empty
reserved seats. He was wondering who they were reserved for. What he saw next made his blood run
cold. 12 tall Grey aliens entered and sat in the empty seats. After that, Phil knew that he could no longer
stay silent.

[edit on 14-3-2010 by D0MiNAT0R 1OOO]

[edit on 14-3-2010 by D0MiNAT0R 1OOO]

[edit on 14-3-2010 by D0MiNAT0R 1OOO]



posted on Mar, 14 2010 @ 12:29 PM
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I've always wondered if these guys really do commit suicide.

There are many other Phil Schneiders out there, who go public than die of suicide later.

These guys could kill themselves, after using there stories to make money. Once they are tired of living the lie, they can't turn back and stop being that crazy aliens guy, and they kill themselves.

OR.. They really are telling the truth and the CIA kills them. I kind of doubt it's that, it's much more likely they can't live the lie anymore. As these guys often have stories that contradict each other, yet they still all die of suicide.

[edit on 14-3-2010 by OdovacarDvilhelm]



posted on Mar, 14 2010 @ 12:31 PM
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It astounds me how anyone can put any stock into Phil Schneiders claims. May he rest in peace. It's pretty obvious to me that his stories were all BS.



posted on Mar, 14 2010 @ 12:43 PM
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I totally agree, and that's why he commit suicide.

I mean, he was having hard times, he went.. hey if I make up a few stories I can make some quick cash, he makes the money, then can't live with all the stories he told, and kills himself.



posted on Mar, 14 2010 @ 01:18 PM
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The only thing I didn't understand was...he says they took his wife and child after stealing all that evidence.

Knowing he would not get them back he went on the run.

Yet it is his wife who gives testimony after his death.



posted on Mar, 14 2010 @ 01:32 PM
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Originally posted by DoomsdayRex

Originally posted by ElectroMagnetic Multivers
By knotting a garrote of one sort or another around the neck. In Schneider's case, a catheter.


I'm sorry are you saying Phil Schneider garroted himself with a catheter?!?!? That's far fetched even for ATS mate, maybe even skunk works.


Could you tell us why that is far-fetched? A catheter could as easily strange someone as anything else.


You are saying he killed himself, as to publicise his information so he'd become more famous and in turn make more people believe him, do you really think he'd want to be found strangled by a catheter? Thrown off a building, shot in the face, thrown in front of a train, anything! Except strangled with a Catheter! Don't forget, this was apparently the 'crux' of the plan!

I don't know maybe, just don't see it, strangling yourself is harder than it looks.

EMM

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posted on Mar, 14 2010 @ 01:34 PM
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It's such a shame that UFO lore still runs around myths and liars, people touted as credible insiders are more than often just attention seeking fraudsters. It seems the ability to weave a good yarn is enough to get you into the clique of money grabbing circuit regulars.

It's sad that like our MP's in the UK you don't need to provide any proof to get your money, you just smile and fleece the people.

Whatever Phil's reasons were I think it's pretty safe to take them all with a pinch of salt as with some of the so called experts who turned up for the disclosure press conference, I believe one wasn't old enough to have been in his post.



posted on Mar, 14 2010 @ 01:38 PM
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Why is this thread here? Shouldn't it be in the conspiracy theory section? Maybe the site also needs a "full on loony" section....



posted on Mar, 14 2010 @ 02:20 PM
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After noticing the compulsive elementary school-style competition between members(on many threads), I thought to myself, "Why not join in and show them who`s the ultimate champ of intellectual dominance and the best person at making other users feel stupid and worthless?" After all, that`s the point here, right? To explain to everybody why it`s so important for them to realize that people who believe differently than I do are completely insane and have nothing to offer what-so-ever and if they DID have the fortune of inheriting a brain cell, they would realize that they could do the entire world a service by ending their lives. It`s the only honorable thing to do if you are unable to instantly see everything you`ve experienced from birth, FROM MY POINT OF VIEW. As if you had experienced everything I have experienced since birth. Yes I admit that there are some "fringe thinkers" who would say this is impossible, but that works out fine for me anyway because that just gives me more people to ridicule. Like I said, that`s the point right? Not to further eachother`s understanding by sharing our experiences and working together to understand the truth! Sure, I know that the best way to get my point accross to another person is to do it in a patient manner, showing them logic in the best way I can define it. But it`s so much more fun to call them names like "kook" or "idiot", and move on knowing that I have not bettered the world in any way. After all, it`s not my job to educate a fellow human. Let the whole world struggle while I hoard all of my superior intelligence. And obviously, there`s nothing I can learn from anybody here,so that relagates this place as simply a place where I can vent and blindly "shotgun" my rage out at unsuspecting victims who made the mistake of thinking that perhaps this was a community of thinking citizens of the world could unite to SHARE their different views and enlighten eachothger. Because for some reason, even though I have all the answers and the best point of view, I am still unhappy and feel a need to take it out on random strangewrs.


 
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posted on Mar, 14 2010 @ 03:11 PM
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Originally posted by Arbitrageur
aliencases.conforums.com...


1981 - Last job
1947 - born
34 - Age when Phil ceased working (went on SSI)
17 - Years Phil claimed he worked in government
17 - How old he would have been when he went to work in the government. Where are his college years in those 17 years? There aren't any however he claimed to be an Aerospace Engineer, Structural Engineer, Geological Engineer. Schneider is a mockery to the UFO Community.


All his different supposed jobs account for well over 100% of his work history.

He and Lazar didn't need much help looking foolish with their claims about stable elements above 114, they must think we're idiots to not realize that elements above 114 aren't stable here, or else they don't realize that themselves.

www.bibliotecapleyades.net...

In May of 1995, suffering from terminal cancer, he began giving talks in Las Vegas describing in detail the underground cities, the government's secret deal with negative aliens, high alien technology being employed by the government-including "corbamite" (element 140), mining on the moon, FEMA and martial law, the coming New World Order takeover, the Alien/NWO genocide agenda to reduce the earth's population by 85% before 2029, and a host of other stunning revelations.


By the way, isn't corbamite a fictional material made up for an episode of Star Trek? As far as I can tell, the designation for element 140 is unquadnilium according to this

Star Trek: The Corbamite Maneuver


"The Corbamite Maneuver" is named after a poker-style bluff that Kirk pulls on their apparent captor, Balok, who has declared his intention to destroy the ship and all life inside it in 10 minutes.


Couldn't he be a little more creative than pulling something out of a Star Trek episode? How gullible does he think we are?



All supposition based on ignorance...
It is theorized that elements above the range 114-116 and above are stable in specific isotopic ratios, and the scientists working in Darmstadt Germany have made unstable istopes of 116, but those same scientists say that it is too hard to make it stable by adding more neutrons/protons, which is what is required to make a stable isotope of 116.

It is also well known in the intel community to give funny names to "new" technology in order to better hide them from those they don't want the info revealed to.. hence the name corbormite or muronite names from star trek episodes. Having those names do not mean the materials don't exist just because they have names from star trek episodes, what better way could there be to shield these materials from the public eye?



posted on Mar, 14 2010 @ 03:16 PM
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I have to agree that there is some things that dont make sense about a lot of the stories people are coming out with. I have a theory which may or may not be true. Here`s how it goes:
Whenever they know someone is planning on blowing the whistle, they implant other memories along with the true ones so that they will look crazy. OR, maybe they don`t even have to implant memories if they can create new real memories. Think of it this way, they could orchestrate a scene with actors and props so that the person who may be a risk thinks that they have witnessed something they haven`t or so that the person hears people saying things to eachother or him that he thinks is candid when it is really scripted. Sounds crazy but it really wouldn`t be hard to misdirect somebody or mislead someone especially if you have access to a reasonable amount of resources. (Haha apology in advance for the porn reference as well as warning for those who do not wish to hear about it) An example of how easily misdirection can be accomplished with surprisingly little coordination and resources comes to mind (yes I used to watch it a looong time ago when my friends and I first discovered the internet, didn`t we all? lol!) when I think back when us guys would crowd around the laptop and see what kind of crazy stuff we could find. We stumbled upon "Bang Bus". Even if the "marks" were actors it`s still a good example of misdirection. After all, even if it is fake they still misdirected the audeince. That`s all I`m gonna say. For more on misdirection, see the movie "Swordfish" and the MSM.


 
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posted on Mar, 14 2010 @ 03:32 PM
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PS: The next time somebody decides to use the good ol` "garroting method" to commit suicide, perhaps they would be so kind as to videotape this acheivement so the rest of us will know if it is possible. I`m just sayin, if you`re gonna end it all anyways, why not use this unique chance to find the answers to some of the mysteries of science. Maybe they should set up a place where people wishing to end their lives can donate their lives to science and they can do all kinds of things to further our understanding of all kinds of things. They could choose to undergo experiments that may last days or weeks, or maybe the only way they are willing to participate is to allow medical devices to be placed on their body to take readings while they perform the act. I`m completely joking of course but one can`t deny that much could be learned. But it`s just one of those "shortcuts" we aren`t supposed to take. Like something the Nazis would do/are still doing...


 
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posted on Mar, 14 2010 @ 04:41 PM
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oh pocky why did you have to spoil it by mentioning those buffoons projectscamalot! utter utter crap take doctor Dan burisch for instance doctor of crapology what a sham of a man a fool.

pocky i like your post's for the most and of late you have been hard at the old keyboard with some decent threads in fact i'm gonna ad you as a friend but please no more camelot please please please.

stealthy~



posted on Mar, 14 2010 @ 06:00 PM
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Originally posted by ElectroMagnetic Multivers
I don't know maybe, just don't see it, strangling yourself is harder than it looks.


You speaking from personal experience or what?

I've never tried strangling myself so I wouldn't know from personal experience, but the guy who saw UFOs in this video makes it look pretty darn easy to strangle himself (starting at about 20 seconds, it's a re-enactment):



And it looks like it would be just as easy with a catheter as with a necktie.

Also remember everybody, Schneider was already dying of cancer anyway, so it's not like he cut a lot off his life by killing himself. That's one reason I find it pretty easy to believe he killed himself.



posted on Mar, 14 2010 @ 06:15 PM
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Originally posted by antideceit
All supposition based on ignorance...
It is theorized that elements above the range 114-116 and above are stable in specific isotopic ratios, and the scientists working in Darmstadt Germany have made unstable istopes of 116, but those same scientists say that it is too hard to make it stable by adding more neutrons/protons, which is what is required to make a stable isotope of 116.

It is also well known in the intel community to give funny names to "new" technology in order to better hide them from those they don't want the info revealed to.. hence the name corbormite or muronite names from star trek episodes. Having those names do not mean the materials don't exist just because they have names from star trek episodes, what better way could there be to shield these materials from the public eye?


So when did he go to college before he was 17?

And do you have any peer-reviewed scientific sources to back up your claims about stable isotopes of elements 114, 115, or 116? If so please post them.

Yes code names are used like the famous "aurora" project is supposedly a code name, but as that example shows not all of them are from Star Trek episodes.

www.vectorsite.net...
When the F117 was developed before it went black it had code name project "HARVEY" and when it went secret or "black", they changed the code name to "HAVE BLUE", again not from Star Trek Episodes. And remember we are talking about the name of an element here, element 140.



posted on Mar, 14 2010 @ 08:07 PM
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Originally posted by ElectroMagnetic Multivers
You are saying he killed himself, as to publicise his information so he'd become more famous and in turn make more people believe him, do you really think he'd want to be found strangled by a catheter?


I never said he did it to become famous. I've wondered if he did it as a way to "prove" his claims, but I have no evidence of that, whatsoever. What is not in question is that he did die by strangulation, most likely self-inflicted. Why he killed himself and why he chose the particular method he did, only Phil Schneider knows. But he had plenty of understandable reasons; I think he suffered from mental illness, and as Arbitrageur said, he was dying of cancer.


Originally posted by ElectroMagnetic Multivers
I don't know maybe, just don't see it, strangling yourself is harder than it looks.


It is not a common suicide method but it is not difficult. All it requires is knotting a suitable cord tight enough around the neck.



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