I believe you can, IF they are really looking for answers...
One of the few good friends I have on ATS, I believe was changed by my attempts to open his mind, tremendous change over more than a year of fighting.
I also believe this member has changed my outlook tons...
CAN BE DONE
it took a couple hundred posts
thanks friend, you know who you are - you are fricking YODA now!
Trying to "convince" someone through rational debate and facts is rarely succesful. Facts are not a means by which people may be convinced. Facts
only become facts after belief allow someone to perceive an idea as fact. However, if your obective is to supply someone with a catalyst for thought
by exposing them to ideas, withthe understanding that they will use or not use them as they please...this can often be succesful. Their opinion may
remain the same, or even change in a direction you hadn't considered. But if your goal is simply to expose them to an idea, that is easy enough to
However, if you have a particular end result that you wish for them to manifest...if you truly wish to "change" someone, as one might carve a block
of wood with a particular end result in mind...this may sometimes be possible. But the methods of accomplishing this rarely involve "debate." It's
much easier to allow someone to come to your conclusion than to convince them to accept it.
I know exactly how you feel. We all have our convictions, our beliefs, and things we claim to KNOW for certain are true. Sometimes it feels like
trying to combat a brick wall when attempting to sway someone. This is especially heartbreaking when its on a topic you actually do know something
about and yet despite the logic and truth in your side of the argument the other person decides to cling to blind baseless beliefs.
Sometimes I think other humans are a waste of time but then I remember that I too was just like them. Empathy is the only thing that keeps me going,
the ability to recognize that we are all human and we all make mistakes and we all believe some pretty weird stuff... especially here on ATS
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