Could Porn be Good for Us?

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posted on Mar, 12 2010 @ 10:07 AM
The March issue of The Scientist, a magazine covering developments in the life sciences, carries a report into various studies on the psychological and social effects of pornography. Perhaps surprisingly (to some), the results of most of these studies appear to show that porn is good for us, and for society.

Here are some excerpts:

Over the years, many scientists have investigated the link between pornography (considered legal under the First Amendment in the United States unless judged “obscene”) and sex crimes and attitudes towards women. And in every region investigated, researchers have found that as pornography has increased in availability, sex crimes have either decreased or not increased.

Despite the widespread and increasing availability of sexually explicit materials... the incidence of rape declined markedly from 1975 to 1995. This was particularly seen in the age categories 20–24 and 25–34, the people most likely to use the Internet... Kutchinsky, who studied Denmark, Sweden, West Germany, and the United States in the 1970s and 1980s... showed that for the years from approximately 1964 to 1984, as the amount of pornography increasingly became available, the rate of rapes in these countries either decreased or remained relatively level. Later research has shown parallel findings in every other country examined, including Japan, Croatia, China, Poland, Finland, and the Czech Republic. In the United States there has been a consistent decline in rape over the last 2 decades, and in those countries that allowed for the possession of child pornography, child sex abuse has declined.

Studies of men who had seen X-rated movies found that they were significantly more tolerant and accepting of women than those men who didn’t see those movies, and studies by other investigators—female as well as male—essentially found similarly that there was no detectable relationship between the amount of exposure to pornography and any measure of misogynist attitudes. No researcher or critic has found the opposite, that exposure to pornography—by any definition—has had a cause-and-effect relationship towards ill feelings or actions against women. No correlation has even been found between exposure to porn and calloused attitudes toward women.

Porn: Good for us? in The Scientist, March 2010

I'm not a big fan of pornography (though, being male, I do look at it from time to time
). However, I am all for freedom of speech and expression, and don't find any merit at all in arguments for state restriction on the use, sale or distribution of pornographic materials. What do my fellow ATS members think? In particular, what do people think about the finding concerning child pornography?

Seconds out and let's hear the bell for Round One.

posted on Mar, 12 2010 @ 10:11 AM
Of course porn is good for us...

Getting rid of MSB reduces the risk of prostate cancer and all

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posted on Mar, 12 2010 @ 10:30 AM
reply to post by Astyanax

I am sorry,but porn is not good for us...
1.Portrays women as sex objects.
2.Gives adolescent girls a negative view about their bodies and shape.
Not everyone can look like a centerfold!
3.In my opinion,porn leads to other sexual deviations.
4.Reduces the sex act to the animal level,not an expression of love.
I understand that some men can't have a normal relationship.These
porn magazines do help in releasing their pent up passions that they
can't seem to control!

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posted on Mar, 12 2010 @ 10:41 AM
Welcome to 2010 Mamabeth. Better start getting use to it. It is not going to change anytime soon.

Well i know masterbation is actually healthy, so porn must go hand in hand.

posted on Mar, 12 2010 @ 10:49 AM
reply to post by Astyanax

Sounds a little too much like a study funded by the porn industry itself.

You can bet this is some prelude to a computer program and a virtual reality business based on the virtual hooker.

You wait. It is around the corner.
This "scientist" I am guessing is a paid spokesman for whoever has this in development. I am guessing Larry Flint. And I like Larry.

Porn is one of the fastest growing industries, past times, and hobbies (?) of Americans. But since masturbation is discouraged, (I encourage it!) it can be dangerous. Porn without masturbation is a rape waiting to happen.

I can't believe the most degrading and dedicated aficionados were studied for this report. They must have polled the typical households with the penthouse and the playboys. It gets a whole lot worse than this.

One thing addiction therapy counselors will tell you is that porn, perhaps harmless at first becomes exactly like a drug in the wrong hands. Some people need to constantly escalate both the depravity and the realism of the the experience. This WILL and DOES result in many instances in child abductions and rape for their next high.

If it leads to this in one man it should be enough to prevent it from having a mass market appeal...but unfortunately, we don't value women enough to care.

I would rather legalize prostitution than see pornography go mainstream in our culture.

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posted on Mar, 12 2010 @ 10:55 AM
reply to post by mamabeth

what about male-centered porn? does that not objectify men?

I gotta tell ya honestly I have watched it and I think of women as equals and have never travelled into deviancy


posted on Mar, 12 2010 @ 10:59 AM
reply to post by Maddogkull

I don't have to get used to it.My church has a faith-based
addictions program and pornography is an addiction!

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posted on Mar, 12 2010 @ 11:07 AM
For those who think it's soley a religious based arguement - hold your hat on because i (an atheist) see porn as a destructive thing.

Okay in some ways it can quell an urge, but in others it can grow other urges (to see worse and worse stuff).

I'm not ignorant, i've seen porn but i've also seen how degenerate it has become over the last twenty years.

And when you hear stories about Ukranian and Polish prostitues forced into porn against their will 'and pretend they are enjoying it' or being locked in rooms and forced to drink dog urine as punishment for 'not enjoying it' - then the whole thing becomes rather repulsive.

What about Brazillian scat movies?, sure the people involved may be getting paid a few thousand dollars (usually because its more than they can earn in a year) - but it does not mean they enjoy it. In fact what psychological damage will it leave?

Then the video gets circulated and a hardcore group of sick bastards then get their rocks off over the video, because they are socially inept / unable to be stimulated by the normal means of the last few hundred thousand years.

Their urge grows until they wish to watch more and more of this filth, and then more girls get dragged into this stuff. And repeat.

Also don't forget that a society that wishes for more and more extreme stuff will eventually hit a brick wall.

These are my thoughts.

[edit on 12-3-2010 by mr-lizard]

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posted on Mar, 12 2010 @ 11:09 AM

Originally posted by mamabeth
reply to post by Maddogkull

I don't have to get used to it.My church has a faith-based
addictions program and pornography is an addiction!

For some people porn is an addiction, that doesn’t show that porn is harmful.

The same can be said for alcohol.

Unless research backs up assertions, then they are nothing more than assertions…

[edit on 12-3-2010 by litmuspaper]

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posted on Mar, 12 2010 @ 11:09 AM

and in those countries that allowed for the possession of child pornography, child sex abuse has declined.

I think this statement in the article is just ridiculous and disgusting. Isn't child porn itself child sex abuse? WTF is their logic in this? I'm disturbed by this statement and makes me doubt the credibility of the whole article. It just pisses me off...seems like they are trying to justify it.

posted on Mar, 12 2010 @ 11:10 AM
In my view porn is great......but should be handled with care!!

Children can get a wrong idea about relationships and reality if they are introduced to porn at a too early age. I have no idea about what age a person must be before it can understand what porn really is and about.

We all know that there are adult peolpe addicted to porn and must, like a drug, under go treatment.

Again, my opinion porn can be great pass-time but should be handled with care and controlled dosis.......

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posted on Mar, 12 2010 @ 11:10 AM
reply to post by mamabeth

I don't have to get used to it.My church has a faith-based
addictions program and pornography is an addiction!

No mama...your religion is the addiction.

As for your churches faith based program stating porn is bad - I bet those running the program have the biggest collection of porn in town.

I mean someone has to confiscate those dirty, evil things, huh..?

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posted on Mar, 12 2010 @ 11:11 AM
reply to post by mamabeth

Actually, even as a woman I disagree.

1.Portrays women as sex objects.

And portrays men as sex objects too. Everyone (and everything) is a sex object. It is porn after all.

2.Gives adolescent girls a negative view about their bodies and shape.
Not everyone can look like a centerfold!

So does TV advertising, pop groups, Disney, magazines, the fashion industry etc etc etc

3.In my opinion,porn leads to other sexual deviations.

In your opinion yes. But in actual fact there is no evidence to support that assumption. And what's the problem with 'other sexual deviations'? If it's a private preference, whatever floats your boat!

4.Reduces the sex act to the animal level, not an expression of love.

Some porn does and some doesn't. There's a lot of variation available. And men usually do think about sex at an animal level anyway (sorry guys, but it's true. Not all of you, but in general....)

My opinion - porn can be good or bad depending on the situation and usage.

For example:

Single man/woman watches porn, but still goes out to meet new people = Good
Single man/woman watches porn, and that satisfies them enough that so doesn't bother going out to meet new people = bad
Man/woman in a relationship watches porn which means they don't give their other half enough interaction = bad
Man/woman in a relationship watches porn and uses it to enhance their relationship = good

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posted on Mar, 12 2010 @ 11:13 AM
Porn is good. Sex is good.

The linking between sex and guilt is false. It is used to control you and make you feel guilty for thinking about, looking at, and engaging in sex. A long time ago, the elite discovered they could control the masses through their sex organs and the emotion of guilt. The Sex Scam has been running full steam ever since, robbing millions of sexual enjoyment.

Sex is the reason people exist. It is definitely not bad.

posted on Mar, 12 2010 @ 11:16 AM
reply to post by zatara

As I wrote earlier,porn is an addiction.When you feed an addiction,
it gets worse.Then it takes more and eventually harder porn to get
the same feelings you felt in the beginning.It is a downward spiral
to oblivion.

posted on Mar, 12 2010 @ 11:18 AM
"Porn" is a broad term that spans a large spectrum and like anything else, where one falls on the spectrum will determine what one views is acceptable or not. It also can help shape what is healthy adult sexual behavior and what is not. If the lines between reality and fantasy become blurred to the point it interferes with life, than there is an individual problem.

Consent, not violence and forced participation is a crucial consideration in the debate and while there are many who are actors/participants because they choose to be, there are many (if not more) who did not choose....

posted on Mar, 12 2010 @ 11:31 AM
reply to post by mamabeth

Porn can be an addiction.....To understand the word addiction is important here..... I think.

posted on Mar, 12 2010 @ 11:38 AM
Here is another take on this...

an excerpt follows
Internet Porn: Worse Than Crack? Ryan Singel Email 11.19.04

Internet pornography is the new crack coc aine, leading to addiction, misogyny, pedophilia, boob jobs and erectile dysfunction, according to clinicians and researchers testifying before a Senate committee Thursday.

Witnesses before the Senate Commerce Committee's Science, Technology and Space Subcommittee spared no superlative in their description of the negative effects of pornography.

Mary Anne Layden, co-director of the Sexual Trauma and Psychopathology Program at the University of Pennsylvania's Center for Cognitive Therapy, called porn the "most concerning thing to psychological health that I know of existing today."

end quote...take it for what it is worth.

And to play devils advocate against myself... I do know men who are GREAT in bed have either had multiple partners or watch a lot of porn. Of course I prefer the latter.

[edit on 12-3-2010 by rusethorcain]

posted on Mar, 12 2010 @ 11:45 AM
In my opinon there is nothing at all wrong with porn.

Yes, there exists brutal porn and discraced porn, but that is the sex trade/human trafficin industry, which IS completly wrong and should be delt with a serious mannor. These porn video's however, are not availible on sites, but will be on such software as P2P's and possibly some torrents.

Any legit pornography goes through legal treatment. From a signed agreement from the actors, and a review on hardcore pornography that it is legal and not torture ect.

Reading these posts however, yes you all do bring up certain key points into why it is bad, but none the less, its like everything else that humans enjoy, it has a dark side.

If you only focus on this dark side, what sort of porn have you watched?! There is loads of porn that is not hard, called "soft core".Porn that does not even have sexual acts, strippin for example is still pornography. Many pornstars also, they are porn stars because THEY like the sex life, it is THEIR choice, and it is the viewers choice to watch.

As for lowering the image of women, once again that is just the porn that you have witnessed. The women, yes in cases, are treated in-humainly, as are the men, etc etc, but you have to agree that they agreed to go into this industry and they know what is sometimes involved. Boxers get hurt when they play their sport, should they stop boxing because no one should have to be getting injured that badly at their work place??

I think people need to adress the matters of porn with a completly open mind. Yes, there are bad area's, just like any industry, but does not mean it is bad for us.

And as for the bit at the end of the article on child pornography, now that is wrong. Any participants in pornography must be of an age of full development and inderpendant in their own choice. This i believe needs to be sorted out more than they are trying. This is the human trafficking i was talking about earlier, which is home to the majority of the abuse people see in pornography.

posted on Mar, 12 2010 @ 12:01 PM
As a man, I started looking at porn since I began flirting with puberty, and can honestly say it was helpful for the most part:

-I learned LOTS of things to do to impress lovers - and vice versa, speaking of a particular couple of ex's...WOW they were awesome! And my wife, of course

-I learned just as many NOT to do...sheesh

-It kept expectations about myself to a realistic level...I mean, some of those guys are too blessed not to show off in show biz..they got picked up at audition for a reason.

-Kept me from bar-hopping and probably from contracting AIDS in the middle of an epidemic.

I never neglected a lover over a porn addiction - thats retarded. When a picture/ movie is better than the real thing...? Not in my world.

Those who can't handle it need to go to mamas church and purge themselves...for the rest of us, enjoy!

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