HAARP Is Out Of Control, You be the judge!!!, page 1

I have noticed a trend. Now, many skeptics will come in here and make gratuitous claims that what we are experiencing weather wise is simply mother nature, and others will claim that global warming is taking its affect.

I am under a different impression. For instance, has anyone noticed that almost every other year there is a new weather crisis that stays focused merely on that particular phenomenon? For instance, in 2005, the only thing that was occurring was Hurricanes. You didn't hear about tornadoes, mudslides, tsunamis or volcanoes...it was simply Hurricanes. Lets take a look at some of this stuff...shall we?

2005: We had Hurricane Katrina, Dennis, Emily, Rita and Wilma. Hurricane Katrina was especially strange since it was the only Hurricane on record EVER to sit for 2 days inland without any movement. This is an anomaly since it takes movement in order to keep the storm active. Not only was this the most active season in recorded history, but, it also had two of the strongest measured Hurricanes in recorded history. Katrina and Rita.
en.wikipedia.org...

Lets back up and look at 2004: 2004 marked the year of the Tsunami. Remember the non-stop media coverage? It was as if nothing else existed, and the only real weather was tsunami weather. This site gives a comprehensive list of the tsunamis that have occurred in the last decade.
ioc3.unesco.org...

2007 brought one of the worst flood seasons in the history of mankind. No one was discussing Hurricanes, tornadoes, or earthquakes...this year was all about floods. Take a look.
www.independent.co.uk...

Now, lets look at 2008: 2008 brought the most and deadliest tornadoes in the past decade. There were no floods that year. There weren't any Hurricanes happening, and if there were, no one cared because Tornadoes were the main topic of interest. In almost every place in the Midwest, there were tornadoes popping up in every back alley crevice you could find. The media was all over it, and these storms were steadily increasing in power.
www.usatoday.com...

Now lets look at the end of 2009 into 2010. EARTHQUAKES.
This seems to be a fad like no other. Not only are they increasing in power, but, they are also increasing in frequency.
Chicago as well as Indiana, Chile (twice), Haiti, Turkey, Afghanistan, China, Okinawa, etc etc

Now, skeptics will tell you..."No big deal. Earthquakes happen all the time."...and, for all intensive purposes, they're right. But, there aren't too many average people out there who haven't noticed that there seems to be a weird trend with all of these earthquakes that just keep popping up.

So...here's my point. We've been through all this before in many threads discussing the possibilities of whether there are governments who have the capabilities of weather control. After looking at these trends that continue to occur, it seems that every year, or every other year, a new phenomenon of weather jumps out, and consistently pounds the earth until another one takes its place. You could look at this as something that is merely seasonal and that, indeed, there are natural weather changes that are taking place on the planet that are increasingly getting worse (some love this idea and grip to it as if it were the only possibility), or, you could look at it as someone playing with a toy that they are trying to perfect. And each year they pick a new disaster to play with until they've honed it into a finely tuned instrument.

Now, if you haven't noticed these trends, or put them together in this sort of order and fashion, you might want to entertain the possibility that there are things being manipulated right in front of your very eyes.

Folks...there was purple snow in Russia. PURPLE. We recently had a never before seen sky spiral in Norway on the day Obama accepted the peace prize, and I don't care how you try to rationalize it, that was pretty screwed up. There was a tetrahedron floating above the Kremlin on the same day, although the favorite thing to say is...HOAX!!! People in Chile saw the sky changing colors in the middle of the night as the earthquake destroyed their city...it was 3am out there, so in the blackness of night, they were watching the sky change colors where there is an absence of color (Black). The same thing was viewed about 20-30 minutes before the earthquake in China. In Antarctica right now, there is some sort of microbe that is giving the landscape the appearance as if it were bleeding. (And the rivers shall turn red with blood) But, I'm sure someone is going to try to tell me that its perfectly normal. A bunch of birds, 100 exactly, recently were flying in a flock together and somehow, they died in the same place in the sky, and then fell in the same yard, within the same space, curled up and with blood leaking from their beaks and nasal passages.

There is something going on folks. For those out there not familiar with HAARP, SURA, Eiscat, and some of the other electromagnetic facilities that are on earth, you really should research the patents that the developers have made and what their purposes are for.

Here's a brief list:

HAARP PATENTS (Assigned to APTI, Inc.)

U.S. Patent 4686605:
Method And Apparatus For Altering A Region In The Earth's Atmosphere,
Ionosphere, And/Or Magnetosphere
Inventors: Eastlund; Bernard J., Spring, TX
Assignees: APTI, Inc., Los Angeles, CA
Issued: Aug. 11, 1987
Filed: Jan. 10, 1985

U.S. Patent 5038664:
Method For Producing A Shell Of Relativistic Particles At An Altitude
Above The Earth's Surface
Inventors: Eastlund; Bernard J., Spring, TX
Assignees: APTI, Inc., Washington, DC
Issued: Aug. 13, 1991
Filed: Jan. 10, 1985

U.S. Patent 4712155:
Method And Apparatus For Creating An Artificial Electron Cyclotron
Heating Region Of Plasma
Inventors: Eastlund; Bernard J., Spring, TX
Ramo; Simon, Beverly Hills, CA
Assignees: APTI, Inc., Los Angeles, CA
Issued: Dec. 8, 1987
Filed: Jan. 28, 1985

U.S. Patent 5068669:
Power Beaming System
Inventors: Koert; Peter, Washington, DC
Cha; James T., Fairfax, VA
Assignees: APTI, Inc., Washington, DC
Issued: Nov. 26, 1991
Filed: Sep. 1, 1988

U.S. Patent 5218374:
Power Beaming System With Printer Circuit Radiating Elements
Having Resonating Cavities
Inventors: Koert; Peter, Washington, DC
Cha; James T., Fairfax, VA
Assignees: APTI, Inc., Washington, DC
Issued: June 8, 1993
Filed: Oct. 10, 1989

U.S. Patent 5293176:
Folded Cross Grid Dipole Antenna Element
Inventors: Elliot; Paul G., Vienna, VA
Assignees: APTI, Inc., Washington, DC
Issued: Mar. 8, 1994
Filed: Nov. 18, 1991

U.S. Patent 5202689:
Lightweight Focusing Reflector For Space
Inventors: Bussard; Robert W., Manassas, VA
Wallace; Thomas H., Gainesville, FL
Assignees: APTI, Inc., Washington, DC
Issued: Apr. 13, 1993
Filed: Aug. 23, 1991

U.S. Patent 5041834:
Artificial Ionospheric Mirror Composed Of A Plasma Layer
Which Can Be Tilted
Inventors: Koert; Peter, Washington, DC
Assignees: APTI, Inc., Washington, DC
Issued: Aug. 20, 1991
Filed: May. 17, 1990

U.S. Patent 4999637:
Creation Of Artificial Ionization Clouds Above The Earth
Inventors: Bass; Ronald M., Houston, TX
Assignees: APTI, Inc., Washington, DC
Issued: Mar. 12, 1991
Filed: May. 14, 1987

U.S. Patent 4954709:
High Resolution Directional Gamma Ray Detector
Inventors: Zigler; Arie, Rishon Le Zion, Israel
Eisen; Yosset, Rishon Le Zion, Israel
Assignees: APTI, Inc., Washington, DC
Issued: Sep. 4, 1990
Filed: Aug. 16, 1989

U.S. Patent 4817495:
Defense System For Discriminating Between Objects In Space
Inventors: Drobot; Adam T., Annandale, VA
Assignees: APTI, Inc., Los Angeles, CA
Issued: Apr. 4, 1989
Filed: Jul. 7, 1986

U.S. Patent 4873928:
Nuclear-Sized Explosions Without Radiation
Inventors: Lowther; Frank E., Plano, TX
Assignees: APTI, Inc., Los Angeles, CA
Issued: Oct. 17, 1989
Filed: June 15, 1987

Here's the link:
www.padrak.com...

Now, I don't much get into huge conspiracy theories or watch this show often, but, there is one part in this show where the designer of Haarp's son speaks candidly about his father's invention and what its intended purpose was. Although some of this is dramatized, it definitely tells an adequate tale. Jim Phelps was the inventor and also the whistle blower of its capabilities.
www.youtube.com...

Here is an article written by JIM PHELPS
www.lightwatcher.com...

Here's another PDF file that you have to download and save:
www.pdfone.com...

This article was put together by DR. Nick Begick
www.haarp.net...

And, William Cohen, ex-secretary of the DOD, made a specific statement about electromagnetic weapons that could be used for weather terrorism.

In April 1997, the then U.S. Secretary of Defense William Cohen publicly discussed the dangers of HAARP-like technology, saying "others are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves... So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations... It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our efforts."

Here is information about a bill passed to seek technology for weather modification:
www.sourcewatch.org...

There is much more, but, I am presenting this so others can think about the possibilities. Your opinion is all that matters here.

reply to post by Faiol

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We don't " KNOW " about the Consequences of Man Playing Happ Hazzardly with Fire ? ......... I just hope the PTB in the HAARP Program do some Serious Scientific Thinking before they decide to Try and Conquer Mother Nature in the Future Again ...

reply to post by bkaust

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Please correct me if I am wrong here , but wasn't the HAARP Program from the beginning of it's conception in Theory a Possible " Weather Manipulator Device " ? Does it have more than that capability today ? Hmm...

[edit on 12-3-2010 by Zanti Misfit]

Hmmm... Just started thinking about motive...

If HAARP was used to trigger an earthquake in Chile, why did the US Gubmnt or Shadow Gubmnt want to do that?

Maybe to knock out the VLT (Very Large Telescope)? It's the only thing in that area that I am aware of that they might want to target.

The thought was that maybe that telescope was seeing things that the spooks didnt want them too...? I dunno.

Any other reason that the US would want to rock Chile?

And before the flamers get here, understand that I'm only posing a hypothetical... I don't claim that its a FACT or even believe that HAARP was the cause for Chile. Just wondering IF HAARP was used, what would be the motive?

EDIT TO ADD:
And whoever it was that was asking about HAARP capabilities, here's a FOI doc that glazes over some of it.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

It doesn't come right out and say "CAN CAUSE EARTHQUAKES", but you'll notice that they frequently say it has various "ground" applications. I have seen docs in other places that speak directly to earthquake triggering potential... will see if i can relocate those.

[edit on 12-3-2010 by DamaSan]

[edit on 12-3-2010 by DamaSan]

Haarp is an ionispheric telecommunications research and development device located in Alaska, USA.

It has been used to use the ionosphere as a ways an means of communicating via wireless ground station to space platforms or moving aircraft, satellites the ISS etc.

It is likely built up from the work of Tesla and Westinghouse and has been in operation for some time. The information about it is an open resource, seeing as it is a tax dollar funded program.

You can read a lot about it here: www.haarp.alaska.edu...

and of course you can read a lot about it elsewhere, or request documents about it and so on.

so, why is Haarp pegged as a "weather machine"?

pure ignorance. TO make correlations to the ionospheric research station and adjusting weather is akin to arguing from ignorance that a stone in your pocket protects you from tigers even though you live in uptown Manhattan and have almost zero chance of ever encountering a tiger in that environment. Or to say that the way your children have arranged their toys on the ground is sending out frequencies that are interfering with pacemakers.

Haarp is the perfect tech for conspiracy theorists to use as such a thing because said cts are oblivious to decent science for the most part.

So, to the OP, for not doing your homework.

My thread is very relevant to this subject. Take a look!!!

Thread

-Kdial1

reply to post by EvolvedMinistry

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Intresting but in 2008 there was a flood in Iowa the biggest on record for around here

reply to post by Monts

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There is no way HAARP can change the weather and cause earthquakes. It would involve the entire laws of physics being rewritten. Notice it's never scientists who claim HAARP can do these things, just internet "enthusiasts".

reply to post by Zanti Misfit

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No, the OP is full of baseless conjecture. HAARP is very safe, as it can only affect the Earth a tiny, insignificant amount when compared to the Sun, which does what HAARP does, but 24/7, with infinitely greater power, across half of the world.

reply to post by Zanti Misfit

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It's not fire. It's not dangerous. You are getting scared by internet hearsay.

reply to post by Zanti Misfit

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No.

reply to post by DamaSan

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The "ground" applications describes using HAARP to make a part of the ionosphere reflective to radio waves capable of penetrating the ground ("ground-penetrating RADAR"). RADAR sets then bounce their EM radiation off that patch and on to the ground in a desired location. The amount of energy in the RADAR is miniscule, and as capable of causing earthquakes as earthworms.

reply to post by djusdjus

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Tesla and Westinghouse have nothing to do with it. All it does is simply heat part of the ionosphere, changing its ability to reflect and bounce electromagnetic radiation around.

Originally posted by Silver Shadow
Well my car has had three punctures since HAARP started operating.
So that must be what is causing it.

It is special tuned radio frequency energy beamed onto the road that causes sharp metal objects to jump up into my tires.

There is simply no other explanation.

I am now absolutely certain HAARP is run by the tire manufacturers, as part of a worldwide sinister plot in conjunction with shape shifting reptilian aliens.

It's that type of sarcastic and arrogant attitude that is going to get a LOT of people killed. Someday, you WILL realize the truth, and then it will be too late.

To the OP.

HAARP is not just electronic. They need something in the atmosphere to make it effective. That something is silver iodide.

The guy that was most known for rainmaking with silver iodide, also invented the word plasma. Take a look for yourself.

The use of the term "plasma" for an ionized gas started in 1927 with Irving Langmuir

www-spof.gsfc.nasa.gov...

Langmuir also wrote these papers.

# VOLUME 11: CLOUD NUCLEATION, Part 1 -Nucleation of Clouds with Dry Ice (Unpublished)

* 211. Summary of Results Thus Far Obtained in Artificial Nucleation of Clouds. Project Cirrus Report on Meteorological Research (July, 1947).
* 212. Studies of the Effects Produced by Dry Ice Seeding of Stratus Clouds. Project Cirrus Final Report (December 31, 1948).
* 214. Progress in Cloud Modification by Project Cirrus. Occasional Report No. 21, Project Cirrus. (April 15, 1950).
* 215. Cause and Effect Versus Probability in Shower Production. Occasional Report No. 22, Project Cirrus. (July 15, 1950).
* 216. A Gamma Pattern Seeding of Stratus Clouds, Flight 52, and a Racetrack Pattern Seeding of Stratus Clouds, Flight 53. (With C. A. Woodman). Occasional Report No. 23, Project Cirrus. (June 1, 1950).
* 217. Results of the Seeding of Cumulus Clouds in New Mexico. Occasional Report No. 24, Project Cirrus. (June 1, 1950).
* 218. Studies of Tropical Clouds. Occasional Report No. 25, Project Cirrus. (July 1, 1950).


# VOLUME 11: CLOUD NUCLEATION, Part 2 -Nucleation of Clouds with Silver Iodide (Unpublished)

* 222. Final Report, Project Cirrus. Part II. Analysis of the Effects of Periodic Seeding of the Atmosphere with Silver Iodide. 340 pages. (May 1953).
* 229. Widespread Control of Weather by Silver Iodide Seeding. 55-RL-1263. July 1955.

www.plasma-universe.com...

Well I couldn't agree more wholeheartedly. HAARP is definitly out of control as it seems to be forcing you to post thread on thread on thread about it.

Have you considered protecting yourself against HAARP-mindcontrol? Because you seem to be the one member that is most affected by it. You should really start asking yourself why HAARP consistently targets you and not other posters.

Find out more about HAARP-mind control forcing people to post threads about HAARP on ATS on this thread, with actual proof:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

[edit on 12-3-2010 by NichirasuKenshin]

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