Open letter to LEO, what will you choose, page 3

reply to post by pieman

Fair enough.

So allow me to back up a wee bit here, and try to clarify things from my side...

*ahem*

Yes, cops are ordered to do things, and yes, there are those idiot officers who feel that they themselves are above the same laws they enforce. Hell, just like you, we have some moronic officers within the town I live in as well... just look up the ATS thread I did about cops illegally seizing property in Crivitz WI.

And yes, you did even state that you are not negative to all cops, that you feel there are some good ones out there; for that, I thank you... with all the threads going on right now about the evils of officers, it seems that there are only two types of posters: LEOs and bashers. I may have jumped the gun, assuming you were a basher by your other posts, and then skimming your last...

I wasn't being aggressive. If I was, people would know it, it'd be very obvious.

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Now then, about warnings and citations.

A lot more warnings are issued than citations because of judgment calls, which I mentioned before. Yes, past records do come into play... if you have a clean record, a warning is more preferable, only depending on the infraction. However, when we call in your information, and see that there have been numerous warnings all pertaining to the same thing, there will be a ticket.

Criminal history is also a factor. Using you as an example, let's say a passenger in your car dropped a joint, or forgot some pot... you get pulled over, and a cop sees the item. You may not have been smoking, and yes, it may not be yours, but do you think the officer is going to believe the "but that isn't mine" story from someone with a known record?

It isn't just officers that do this, label people by their past mistakes. How many citizens do you know who treat others differently because of things they did in the past? How many people do you know act differently towards some because of negative rumors?

Human nature.

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REPLY TO itsawild1

The incident with the KKK individual. Sad to say, but the officer was right, a simple threat is only misconduct. There was no physical act of violence, so there cannot be any additional charges. However, with the officer stating that he could do something more if there was "evidence", that is wrong, by any measure. A person has to wonder how many times that officer did just that in other cases... as far as I'm concerned, he isn't a LEO, as much as he is a vigilante, and a bad one at that, if he's trying to get others to do his own dirty work.

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If you don't like the idea about voting someone out, then you deserve everything that happens. Take action, report them, do something, just don't sit there being mad at the world because officials that your neighbors voted in aren't doing what you want.

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You, who dare question us about how much of the Constitution we understand, seem to not fully understand it yourself. How much training have you, any of you, received in law or jurisdiction or statutes? Are we as god as lawyers? Hell no... but then again, lawyers aren't as good as judges, either. But to say that we are blindly following along, doing only what we are told... *shakes head* ... is just plain ignorance.

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All any of us have been doing, no matter what the thread, is going around and around in circles. LEOs are trying to answer your complaints and are trying to explain things, and all the bashers are doing are, well, bashing without giving any information or justification.

It's just getting tiring.

Tell you what. Let's make a deal... from here on out, if anyone has any specific question, I shall answer them directly, whether it is in this thread or U2U.

Don't get defensive and pissy because you don't like what you hear, and don't start calling us liars because we aren't following your stereotype. You want to know the how's and why's things are being done? We LEOs are more than happy to tell you, and have... it's just that no one is listening.

... so who's the bigger moron?