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Originally posted by drmeola
First we are talking about in a time when the federal government sends down an order that clearly stated is against the constitution. And I will leave it at that.
Originally posted by pieman
this is quite simple, they are there to enforce the law, no matter what the law may be. they are on the side of the law, simple as that.
an LEO is in no position to examine the constitutionality or justification of any particular law and, TBH, they don't really care.
in the US, the fact that they enforce unconstitutional federal drug prohibition should be the only indication that you need to tell you that they will enforce the laws they're told to enforce.
if they're told to round up potential terrorists, in the guise of CTers, and detain them in specially designed temporary holding camps, that's just what they'll do.
the war has started, they have chosen their sides, stop fooling yourselves.
Originally posted by rcwj1975
If we are on the side of the law, why do we not give tickets or arrest for EVERY violation of the law we see?
Why aren't we?
I have to go to a house and find a dead 15 year old because of drugs, I sure as hell want to stop the flow. I have been out on WAY to many dead teen scene's and thanks to drugs, these kids are gone. Wonder if your mindset would be the same if one of them was your daughter or son?
Just because your not smart enough or capable of seeing the evil in some, doesn't mean people we do "round up" aren't a threat in some way.
I can't imagine waking up everyday and living my life with such paranoia.
Originally posted by pieman
dunno, incompetence, apathy, racism, favoritism, there are any number of reasons. you're really asking me to explain why a cop enforces the law in one case and not in another!!
because you're not, by definition, a law enforcement officer upholds the law. that's all you're trained to do. how much instruction does the average cop get in constitutional law?
blah, blah, blah, do you want to ban swimming because sometimes children drown? it doesn't matter what you bull crap justification is, you're still enforcing an unconstitutional law, your justification could just as easily apply to gun control.
i'm not interested in you reasoning, i'm just making it clear that you will do it. you agree it seems.
you're the one suggesting that normally moral people would be microwaving babies if it wasn't for the police!!
[edit on 12/3/10 by pieman]
Originally posted by rcwj1975
Yes I am asking you genius, your the one claiming we enforce the law no matter what!!!!!!!
You may laugh at 16 hours, but usually we recieve the same amount as MOST lawyers...so before you try to make fun of that, its simply true.
Sure cause swimming and having people sell LETHAL drugs is the same.
And a dead teen is bullcrap justification...awesome dude...glad your an american patriot!!!!
And hey...last I checked the 2nd Amendment clearly defines gun control...which one talks about drug control?
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
I do agree when it is justified. And not interested in my reasoning...wow, speaks volumes about you.
Uh no...re-read it. I said people are NOW microwaving their babies WITH law enforcement present...imagine NO LAW!
rcwj1975
Has the citizens of this nation sworn anything to the consititution?
Originally posted by drmeola
Pieman,
I see you are in Europe, question as you debate American LE, how is Shariah treating you?
With every breath in my body I will not allow Shariah Law and the Muslim way of Allah to take hold in my country. This is the whole reason behind this thread.
Who are you going to stand with, the Marxist, Moe, and Muslims that have clearly taken over the White House or are you going to say F you. And stand with the populist to take back our country from these traitors.
Originally posted by rcwj1975
Originally posted by pieman
this is quite simple, they are there to enforce the law, no matter what the law may be. they are on the side of the law, simple as that.
If we are on the side of the law, why do we not give tickets or arrest for EVERY violation of the law we see? Why do we let people go for stuff WE as LEO's don't care about, but it's still in the code book and could be charged for? If we were truly on the side of the law, why would we as for amendments to laws so we don't have to enforce them?