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Topic started on 11-3-2010 @ 08:18 PM by The_Tick

"Video"Is the CERN LHC creating Gravity Waves that cause Earthquakes including the Chile Quake?


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Could the CERN LHC particle accelerator be related to increased earthquakes around the world ?

Note that there have been many earthquakes occuring worldwide in the past few months, especially in 2010. The CERN LHC giant particle accelerator was turned on at the end of 2009, and has been doing experiments in 2010. It is by far the largest particle accelerator ever built. Is it possible that CERN LHC experiments are producing gravity waves or particle beams that go into the earth's core, possibly causing earthquakes such as the February 2010 Chile 8.8 quake. Copyright 2010 by T. Chase. Fro
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reply posted on 11-3-2010 @ 09:03 PM by The_Tick
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ancient_wisdom,
Yes but doesn't God work through man?
He has even the most vile, even Hitler. What ever it takes to serve His will, what ever it may be.


reply posted on 11-3-2010 @ 09:10 PM by Titen-Sxull
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This is a new one. The particles it uses are tiny, I would think they are far too small too create any ill effects when they meet let alone massive catastrophes. Plate Tectonics already explains earthquakes quite well so any theory saying certain quakes are not the result of known natural phenomenon would have to be scientifically plausible. I'm no expert on the Large Hadron Collider or particle physics but it does not seem plausible for quakes to be caused by the LHC.

Seems every new piece of big scientific equipment is labeled a doomsday device for no apparent reason.

[edit on 11-3-2010 by Titen-Sxull]


reply posted on 11-3-2010 @ 09:27 PM by Pauligirl
There have always been earthquakes. Before HAARP, before CERN.
earthquake.usgs.gov...

This seems to cover it pretty well:
minnesota.publicradio.org...

Quakes are the price of living on an active Earth
by Justin Revenaugh
March 3, 2010

Nearly two centuries ago, northeast Arkansas and southern Missouri were rocked by four earthquakes of magnitude 7 or greater. Buildings were leveled, the Mississippi experienced strong seiches that made it seem to be flowing upstream, and church bells clanged as far away as Boston. These four "New Madrid" quakes occurred within a period of less than two months, the first two just six hours apart.

The 1960 magnitude 9.5 Chile earthquake -- the largest ever recorded - -was followed a scant four years later by the second largest, the 1964 magnitude 9.3 Alaska earthquake. Both triggered tsunamis that spread across the Pacific.

As young as the year is, 2010 has already seen two terrible tremors: the Jan. 12 Haiti earthquake and last Saturday's magnitude 8.8 earthquake in Chile.

Earthquakes are quick, their devastation enormous, the loss of life all too often overwhelming. When they strike back to back it is natural to wonder whether they are related. Did one cause the other? Has Earth changed, moving into an era of increased seismicity? Some people reach further for meaning in the destruction: Are the earthquakes a sign, a warning, a rebuke? Seismology, the science of earthquakes, has answers to these questions.

Large earthquakes are more common than you might think. In an average year, Earth is rolled by 20 quakes of magnitude 7 and greater. Many occur deep enough in the Earth that seismic waves reaching the surface do no damage. Others originate far from population centers and manage to pass largely unnoticed. But they happen. Frequently.

The numbers of earthquakes of different sizes follow an empirical law developed by two famous 20th century seismologists: Beno Gutenberg and Charles Richter (of Richter Scale fame). The law states that for every 200 magnitude 6 earthquakes -- about the number that occur worldwide in any given year -- there will be 20 magnitude 7s and two magnitude 8s. In light of this, it is entirely unremarkable that the Haiti and Chile earthquakes occurred so close together in time. In fact, there was another magnitude 7 earthquake south of Japan that took place just hours before Saturday's earthquake in Chile. With one or two earthquakes of magnitude 7 and above each month, we expect large earthquakes to occur within weeks or days of one another.

So to the question of whether the timing implies a causal relation between the earthquakes in Haiti and Chile, seismology answers no. But to the larger question of whether earthquakes can ever be related, there is more to consider.

Earthquakes occur when sudden motion on a fault releases stresses built up over tens to hundreds to even thousands of years. Aftershocks invariably follow, dotting the stretch of fault ruptured in the main earthquake. Their frequency dies down with time, and after a few months to a few years things are quiet again. But the clock continues ticking, the plates that cover Earth's surface keep moving, and stresses build anew.

While the main shock reduces stress on the fault locally, it can both raise and lower it nearby. Where it is increased, the earthquake clock is advanced, the crust is moved closer to failure and, on occasion, an earthquake is triggered. Seismologists believe that happened in the New Madrid earthquake sequence of 1811 and 1812. Damaging quakes along the Anatoly fault zone in Turkey, including the 1999 Izmit quake that claimed over 14,000 lives, also appear to be related in this way.

So yes, earthquakes can be related, but the influence is local, limited to nearby fault lines -- not the immense distances separating Haiti and Chile. And they can only hasten subsequent shocks. They can't create earthquakes where none would happen otherwise.

By constantly monitoring seismic activity and measuring the motion of the Earth's surface, scientists have developed a good understanding of where big earthquakes are most likely in the future. While specific predictions of time elude us, we can meaningfully assess earthquake hazards around which human infrastructure can be planned. Both recent large quakes were known hazards: GPS measurements of plate motions identified the fault zone in Haiti as capable of a magnitude 7 earthquake and a gap in historic seismicity testified to the threat in Chile.

Earthquakes are an unstoppable consequence of an active Earth. We well understand where and why they happen. When they do, their message for us should be one of humility in the face of Earth's enormous power, and of humanity in compassion and aid for those suffering their aftermath.

Justin Revenaugh is professor of seismology at the University of Minnesota.



reply posted on 11-3-2010 @ 11:34 PM by V1g0r0u5
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If Einstein's theory of General Relativity (or is it Special Relativity?) proves to be true, then an objects mass increases with it's speed. This is supposedly why objects can not exceed the speed of light. It would require an infinite amount of energy to accelerate this object as it approaches the speed of light.

As we know, any massive object has gravity. We have all seen how massive the magnets are that keep these particles focussed in a beam. The scale of CERN compared to the size of the particles they are experimenting with must say something about particles actually increasing their mass the faster they go.

Remember, the CERN is the most powerful accelerator in the world. It produces more power than other accelerators, so it can therefore achieve higher speeds.

I am by no means a physicist, but that's how I understand it. Someone please set me straight if I have it wrong.

It would be interesting to see if earthquakes were felt at the times the older accelerators were operating.

Regards


reply posted on 12-3-2010 @ 03:11 AM by dashar
Are Earthquakes Really on the Increase?

well if right this explains alot
We continue to be asked by many people throughout the world if earthquakes are on the increase. Although it may seem that we are having more earthquakes, earthquakes of magnitude 7.0 or greater have remained fairly constant.

A partial explanation may lie in the fact that in the last twenty years, we have definitely had an increase in the number of earthquakes we have been able to locate each year. This is because of the tremendous increase in the number of seismograph stations in the world and the many improvements in global communications. In 1931, there were about 350 stations operating in the world; today, there are more than 8,000 stations and the data now comes in rapidly from these stations by electronic mail, internet and satellite. This increase in the number of stations and the more timely receipt of data has allowed us and other seismological centers to locate earthquakes more rapidly and to locate many small earthquakes which were undetected in earlier years. The NEIC now locates about 20,000 earthquakes each year or approximately 50 per day. Also, because of the improvements in communications and the increased interest in the environment and natural disasters, the public now learns about more earthquakes.

According to long-term records (since about 1900), we expect about 17 major
earthquakes (7.0 - 7.9) and one great earthquake (8.0 or above) in any given year.




earthquake.usgs.gov...

[edit on 3/12/2010 by dashar]



reply posted on 12-3-2010 @ 07:39 AM by discolo
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I think their argument would be that "god told us to do it", 'cos we know that makes it alright if you are a big powerful organisation like a Government.
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