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Topic started on 11-3-2010 @ 06:12 AM by iMacFanatic

French bread spiked with LSD in CIA experiment


www.telegraph.co.uk
In 1951, a quiet, picturesque village in southern France was suddenly and mysteriously struck down with mass insanity and hallucinations. At least five people died, dozens were interned in asylums and hundreds afflicted.

For decades it was assumed that the local bread had been unwittingly poisoned with a psychedelic mould. Now, however, an American investigative journalist has uncovered evidence suggesting the CIA peppered local food with the hallucinogenic drug LSD as part of a mind control experiment at the height of the Cold War.
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reply posted on 11-3-2010 @ 06:12 AM by iMacFanatic
Brilliant...evil but brilliant.

After all Europe has a long unfortunate history of ergot poisoning from bread causing the dreaded St. Anthony's Fire.

Ergot is a mold that grows on grain...mostly rye during damp growing periods and causes long term poisoning that includes hallucinations, spasms and in extreme cases gangrene.

The article goes on to say that:

On August 16, 1951, the inhabitants were suddenly racked with frightful hallucinations of terrifying beasts and fire.

One man tried to drown himself, screaming that his belly was being eaten by snakes. An 11-year-old tried to strangle his grandmother. Another man shouted: "I am a plane", before jumping out of a second-floor window, breaking his legs. He then got up and carried on for 50 yards. Another saw his heart escaping through his feet and begged a doctor to put it back. Many were taken to the local asylum in strait jackets.

Time magazine wrote at the time: "Among the stricken, delirium rose: patients thrashed wildly on their beds, screaming that red flowers were blossoming from their bodies, that their heads had turned to molten lead."


At the time both ergot poisoning and mercury were suggested but an reporter working on a book about the CIA's cold war mind control experiments has discovered evidence that instead of accidental ergot poisoning...the town was dosed with LSD.

Why I said it was brilliant was with the history of ergot as a backdrop no one would have ever imagined it was a mind control experiment conducted on unsuspecting victims.

www.telegraph.co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)


reply posted on 11-3-2010 @ 06:34 AM by mamabeth
reply to post by iMacFanatic



It makes you wonder what else they spiked with these drugs
over the years?I know the best way to get most americans is
through coffee and beer.


reply posted on 11-3-2010 @ 06:37 AM by iMacFanatic
reply to post by GoodFella


That is the fact and one that the hard right hates...that nothing happens in a vacuum...the reason why so much of the world hates us (including the Islamic world) is because we seem to think that simply because we are the United States we have the right to run rough shod over the world.

It was resentment of such arrogance (as much as Islamic extremism) that was behind the 9/11 attacks.


reply posted on 11-3-2010 @ 06:50 AM by INQUISITION11
Reminds me of this

www.youtube.com...

British troops were compensated for being administered LSD without their knowledge.

news.bbc.co.uk...


reply posted on 11-3-2010 @ 07:02 AM by endisnighe
reply to post by iMacFanatic



Please explain hard right?

Do you mean Neo Cons, because new conservatives are liberal conservatives.

Please be more specific when you blanket or broad brush a section of the US.

For one, it seems the new Admin has not changed any moves of the old admin.

And am I included in the HARD RIGHT, being I am a Constitutional Libertarian, Fiscal Conservative and a Social Liberal?

I say pull all troops from all countries.

What do you want, troops in almost all countries to enforce our will?

Quit the divisiveness.


reply posted on 11-3-2010 @ 07:49 AM by iMacFanatic
reply to post by endisnighe


By hard right I mean the most right wing extremists. Jingoists and the religious far right. The ones who think that theirs is the only way and liberals and Democrats and traitors, spawn of the devil etc. They used to be called super patriots though like oily north there was nothing all that patriotic about them. Some are neo-cons but not all.


reply posted on 11-3-2010 @ 08:34 AM by ModernAcademia
Author Claims CIA STILL Testing on public



RT: Can the CIA undermine the president, if they don’t like what the president is doing, saying or advocating?

HA: Absolutely. They can undermine the president. And I think the proof of that is what happened with JFK [John F. Kennedy]. I don’t believe that Lee Harvey Oswald alone assassinated JFK. And it’s my belief after studying the assassination for years and years, that the CIA had a direct hand in that.
rt.com...


Crazy Stuff right here!!!
Also see my link!


reply posted on 11-3-2010 @ 08:45 AM by mrsdudara
reply to post by Merriman Weir



Yeah, but that wont happen here because we're perfect, and everybody loves us. So when we make a little mistake like this the world just says "awe thats ok, everyone makes mistakes" forgives and goes on. Besides this is old news, it would never happen today. A lot of people made mistakes back then.



reply posted on 11-3-2010 @ 08:51 AM by iMacFanatic
reply to post by mrsdudara


MMM...You are either being sarcastic or you are extremely naive...

I think you are being sarcastic.



reply posted on 11-3-2010 @ 09:02 AM by iMacFanatic
reply to post by Shadowflux


LSD wears off within a day...Ergot poisoning can last months...LSD does not cause gangrene Ergot poisoning can.

Things like that.


reply posted on 11-3-2010 @ 09:17 AM by mrsdudara
reply to post by iMacFanatic



Yes I am being sarcastic. I just couldnt help myself. That post was just screaming for a sarcastic response.

It was quite evil, what they did. What is worse is I can understand it, and dont doubt it will happen again in one form or another. Best defence is sometimes a crazy offence. NOT saying it is ok, just saying that if you are in the business of trying to figure out how to fight and win a war, this method is understandable.

It is good sometimes to see the things that can happen. Should you be carefull of food that was manufactured in a foreign nation? What would have happened if it was LSD instead of melamine in all that yummy cholate? Or how about the led found in all the paint on childrens toys from China. Say what you want, but if you really researched the effects of led posioning you would not question the high rates of ADHD in children and young adults. So it is not as instantaneous as LSD, it still has a devistating effect. Would our own govt try something like this on their own people in an attempt to calm the masses in the event of a rebellion. Yea, most likely. It would be in their best intrest to do so. It would be in our best intrest to keep it in mind. It is a foolish thing to burry your head in the sand and think that anyone is going to play by the rules. The #1 rule is to win. If you have to cheat to get there it does not matter as long as you win.

Point being, in all honesty, no country is going to say a thing about it, because they would hang themselves in the process.


reply posted on 11-3-2010 @ 09:19 AM by Merriman Weir
Originally posted by mrsdudara
reply to
post by iMacFanatic



Yes I am being sarcastic. I just couldnt help myself. That post was just screaming for a sarcastic response.


Really? My post was merely a response to much of the type of chest-thumping I've seen on this site and many others over the years.




reply posted on 11-3-2010 @ 09:23 AM by Shadowflux
reply to post by iMacFanatic



Yeah, which is more reason to assume it was natural ergot poisoning and not CIA planted LSD poisoning.
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