Primary School Children told they will be taken from their families in Holocaust 'game', page 1
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Topic started on 10-3-2010 @ 07:39 PM by berenike
How long before someone decides that subjecting children to these 'games' has gone far enough?

It's bad enough frightening the wits out of them by telling them that ufos have crashed nearby and providing 'debris' to prove it, but this story is beyond the pale.

Without any warning a class of 11 year old children were told that some of them were to be segregated and taken away from their families. The reason - so they would know how Jewish children felt in World War II. Oh, and to help develop their creative writing skills.

This absolutely beggars belief.

www.dailymail.co.uk...

A group of primary schoolchildren were left traumatised after their teacher told them they were to be taken away from their families during a bizarre Holocaust classroom 'game'.
Pupils became hysterical after a number of them were separated and told they were being sent away or might end up in an orphanage.
The terrifying ordeal was meant to give the students at the Lanarkshire school an insight into the horrors faced by Jewish children during the Second World War, when they were plucked from home and sent to Nazi death camps.


But the ill-conceived exercise, which was sprung without warning on the children at St Hilary's Primary School in East Kilbride last Thursday morning, went badly wrong with many pupils, aged just 11, reduced to tears.
Deputy head teacher Elizabeth McGlynn was responsible for segregating the pupils and telling them they were to be sent away.
One angry parent, who has lodged an official complaint about the project, told how the 'barbaric' role play left children crying their eyes out in class.
In a letter sent to council bosses, the unnamed mother said: 'Mrs McGlynn told the children they would probably have to be sent away from their families and that their parents had been informed about this and knew all about it.
'When one child asked if that meant they might have to go to an orphanage, they were told that might be a possibility.
'At that point many of the children became very distressed.
'One boy kicked his chair over, one was angry and demanded to speak to someone in charge but most were crying on a scale ranging from mildly to severely.
'Their ordeal lasted between 12 and 15 minutes before the children were informed that it was all an act but that the role play would continue until lunchtime.'
One girl said her classmates began crying when Mrs McGlynn told them she had a letter from the Scottish Executive saying nine children had to be separated from their classmates.
She told the shocked youngsters those who were born in January, February and March had lower IQs than other children, 'due to lack of sunlight in their mother's womb', and that they had to put yellow hats on and be sent to the library.
The mother added: 'When I asked why on earth they thought it was appropriate to deliver a role play situation to the children in this way, Mrs Stewart informed me that they didn't inform the children beforehand.
'This was because they wanted the children to experience an "accurate emotional response" to this scenario in order for it to be reflected in their story writing.
'Mrs Stewart then invited me to come up to the school and see the excellent work that had been produced as a result of the exercise.
'I declined and my position and opinion on the method used to extract emotive story writing from the children was cruel, barbaric, traumatic and totally, totally unethical.
'My daughter and indeed no child needs to feel the terror, fear, panic, segregation and horror that a child of the Holocaust experienced during one of the worst atrocities in history to be able to empathise with them in order to produce good story writing.'
A South Lanarkshire council spokeswoman, who confirmed that a role play activity took place, said: 'The council can confirm that a parent handed in a letter to Education Resources on Monday, March 8, 2010, and this will be responded to shortly.'
An estimated six million Jews died in the Holocaust. Jewish children in Nazi Europe had to wear yellow Star of David badges during the Second World War.
They also had to live apart from the rest of the population in ghettos.
Finally they were taken to concentration camps, where most were separated from their parents then killed.


I have quoted the article in full.

Link for anyone who missed the crashed ufo (plus alien abduction) story:

www.telegraph.co.uk...

[edit on 10-3-2010 by berenike]


reply posted on 10-3-2010 @ 07:57 PM by berenike
reply to post by Foranki



Absolutely agree.

I am just hoping there isn't some sinister agenda behind this, but you have to wonder....



reply posted on 10-3-2010 @ 08:07 PM by mamabeth
reply to post by berenike



I can't imagine why anyone would subject children to
this type of role play.I think it was the ultimate act of
stupidity on the school's part.I think someone should
lose their job over this one.


reply posted on 10-3-2010 @ 08:08 PM by berenike
reply to post by primus2012



Honestly, I'm not sure which would be worse.

I'm hoping there'll be enough of an outcry over this to stop anything like it happening in future - whoever's daft idea it was.



reply posted on 10-3-2010 @ 08:13 PM by primus2012
reply to post by Phlynx



Telling a child he/she is being taken away because of his/her inferiority has absoulutely everything to do with that statement and with my question.

"She told the shocked youngsters those who were born in January, February and March had lower IQs than other children, 'due to lack of sunlight in their mother's womb', and that they had to put yellow hats on and be sent to the library".


reply posted on 10-3-2010 @ 08:26 PM by berenike
reply to post by primus2012



I think that's possibly the worst aspect of the story.

I hope somebody explains very carefully to those kids that the suggestion they had lower IQs because of their birthdates is totally wrong. They're so vulnerable to suggestions coming from adults, especially those they trust. And who are there to teach them.

Imagine getting a piece of information like that from a teacher. You'd always have a bit of a lingering doubt no matter how much they told you that they'd made it up for a game. Or actually, let's be blunt, Lying.

What sort of person would even think of something like that, let alone think it was a good idea to tell it to kids straight-faced.


reply posted on 10-3-2010 @ 10:08 PM by Horza
Sounds like the teacher was trying a Jane Elliot style experiment.

Controversial but, apparently, ultimately successful.

Thread about it here.
Brown eyed children are idiots and worthless

More than 450 children went through her experiment from 1968 to 1984 and many say that she is “a hero, a teacher extraordinaire, whose simple experiment, which lasted just two days, forever changed their lives.



[edit on 10/3/10 by Horza]



reply posted on 11-3-2010 @ 07:31 AM by berenike
reply to post by Horza



Thanks for the link to Kandinsky's interesting thread. I notice that one contributor, lizziejane, quoted the Daily Mail article about an hour before I started this thread. Oops, I didn't see that.

I couldn't watch the first video, youtube had pulled it, so I have to ask. The kids who had the 'wrong' eye colour on Tuesday morning, did they have to go home without being told that all was really ok?

In the Wednesday experiment the second group of kids were told reasonably quickly that it was all rubbish. You have to feel sorry for the first group if they had to carry that burden overnight.

It appears to me that the kids in Jane Elliot's experiment were not told that they would be taken away from their homes and parents. That would seem to be the big difference between Jane Elliot's experiment and that of Mrs McGlynn, the teacher in the Daily Mail article.

Anyone, even those with little knowledge of children, looking at Jane Elliot's class would see immediately how impressionable they are. I can't understand how a teacher like Mrs McGlynn, with all her experience of kids, could come up with her idea and think it was a good idea to carry it out.


reply posted on 11-3-2010 @ 07:57 AM by aristocrat2
reply to post by berenike



Its more likely training kids to accept passively when Martial Law is declared in the UK after the total economic collapse and the election has been suspended "temporarily".

Remember, what has Gordo been spending all the stimulus money on? Sports complexes with high walls and teeny windows at the top, you know, where the guy in the rubber suit chucks the tablets of Prussic Acid in.


reply posted on 11-3-2010 @ 08:06 AM by berenike
reply to post by aristocrat2



Please, please don't make any suggestions about the General Election being suspended.

If that happens I think I'll throw myself into the sports complex with the kids
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