More importantly, why are you inquiring? I'm here to talk if you need an ear. The old Cliche' that suicide is a Permanent Solution to a Temporary Problem is true.

I know one thing that happens, people that do commit suicide leave a wake of sorrow for those that loved and cared about them.




[edit on 3/10/2010 by Kellter]

I had this thought also. Maybe im being biased but, I feel those who commit suicide do not end up spending eternity in hell or anything of that nature. I dont believe in hell to begin with. And im probably not going to come back to this thread again because some posts might upset me.

If you have ever seen the movie What Dreams May Come, it has that story line. A man dies and the wife commits suicide and he does everything in his power to bring her back from "hell."

[yvid] v=PJdhumB1V3c [yvid]

Same thing as when you have been hit by a train. Death of your physical body. The manner and time of death does not matter, the law of free will applies to anything. Suicide is just one of many choices you can make in your every day life.

Belief is a very strong force in the non physical densities, for it forces your thoughts to manifest themselves in a way YOU want them to.

If you believe that you can be punished by "God" it can be so. If you believe your life will be better it will be so, nevertheless same thought patterns apply to the higher densities as to the lower.

Nevertheless the situation cannot be fully comprehended unless it is experienced by you, i.e. you have to do it yourself in order to know it.

Your life will be A LOT better when you commit suicide, but you will miss the important experience needed for your infinite growth, so it is not advisable to actually do it, but even suicide is a form of experience to go through, and even more you have infinite ammount of chances and time so it really does not matter. It is really up to YOU, most important thing is to enjoy yourself and have fun, nothing else matters.

Some believe life is school and suicide is cutting class...gotta repeat the course due to a fail grade...same circumstances that lead you to the suicide, same everything until you get past it

Some believe that you simply rot in hell...not because its a unforgivable sin (bibically the only unforgivable sin is blaspheming the holy spirit), but because you got to ask for forgivness to begin with...and suicide doesn't give much time to ask to be forgiven.

Some believe that its just another way out of life, same as cancer (from years of smoking), heart attacks (cheeseburgers...yum), or any other type of society suicide we choose.

Ultimately nobody alive will be able to give you a definate answer to this, just a belief system...mostly due to the fact that everyone whom posts here is alive...only the dead can answer about matters of death.

One thing is a fact of the Universe, emotions, events, things everything.

NOTHING lasts for ever in it's current form.

This is just part of the "Emptiness" teachings of Buddhism.

Jesus pissed sometimes.

That became water, or a plant, and a cloud , then maybe an animal, then maybe oil etc etc.

Where has JC Piss gone?

Where is it?

Has it stopped existing, or just changed form/type/vibration.

It was a cloud before he drank it, and maybe a comet before that or volcanic emmisions. Things arent as we see them, imbued with that one quality.

NOTHING lasts in a permanent form as it appears or is for eternity. When we feel angry or sad at the time it feels like it is always like that, that we are the embodiment of "Sad" we say things like "im Sad" "Im Alive" but both of those are really false premises....

Sad one day crying tears of pain,

Happy another tears of Joy.

Alive one day, and passed on from the mortal another.

Therefore it is safe to say that if Hell exists it would not be for eternity anyhow.

It is said by some who know these things that some suicides are because the person was a higher vibration entity, and finds being in the dense material world very difficult indeed, they soak up the injustice of those around them etc etc. They forget whay they came here to guide others to a better way of being.

A friend of mine, her brother committed suicide at a young age just over a year ago.

In life he was one of the most gentle, caring, loving , honest people I had ever met.

He had not much, but if you went to his house he would have invited an tramp or vagrant in, would use his last £1 to get them food or have something for them.

Naturally many good people like this get taken advantage of, and as they FEEL soo strongly and tend to put others on pedestals according to their own standards, but do not realise most of us has feet of clay.

It can be too much for them.

Do I think even if it existed this person would go to hell, well if he did the system is wrong lol, for he spread much more love and light in his short life, than any he took by taking his life.

Having said that I think we miss one of the lessons we have to go through on the earth by doing so, but there is much time to try again!

Kind Regards,

Elf

[edit on 10-3-2010 by MischeviousElf]

From having a friend committing suicide a few years back, i can tell you it will really effect the people around you, not just making it an easy way out. I think that no matter how you die, until you learn your reason for being here, you wont go on to the next step, whatever that may be.

My father committed suicide when I was very young and his family (not my mother) have been paying a penance to the Catholic Church since 1973 to buy his way out of Purgatory.. what a waste!

My fathers spirit has been with me since he died. I feel him all the time, watching and guiding me through my life in the only way he can now he is not physically with me. When my mother died the same thing happened.. I still feel her with me as well.

So if my father went to Purgatory (or Hell) for committing suicide and my mother went to Heaven.. how is it that they are both still with me? My belief is if their spirit is still alive IN ME then they will both be with me as long as I want. It doesn't really matter where they 'are' right now because to me, they're right here.

Originally posted by damn_ummmm
My father committed suicide when I was very young and his family (not my mother) have been paying a penance to the Catholic Church since 1973 to buy his way out of Purgatory.. what a waste!

My fathers spirit has been with me since he died. I feel him all the time, watching and guiding me through my life in the only way he can now he is not physically with me. When my mother died the same thing happened.. I still feel her with me as well.

So if my father went to Purgatory (or Hell) for committing suicide and my mother went to Heaven.. how is it that they are both still with me? My belief is if their spirit is still alive IN ME then they will both be with me as long as I want. It doesn't really matter where they 'are' right now because to me, they're right here.

You should really consult them if they have more important things to do. They may be bond to you..., but, hey, if they are having fun why not?

Also it is important to add, that
Commiting suicide is just like quiting the game when you do not feel like playing it any more.
Thats why i love the physical so much because of all the drama with death . Can't do that in higher denseties.

Originally posted by Jess_Undefined
I had this thought also. Maybe im being biased but, I feel those who commit suicide do not end up spending eternity in hell or anything of that nature. I dont believe in hell to begin with. And im probably not going to come back to this thread again because some posts might upset me.

If you have ever seen the movie What Dreams May Come, it has that story line. A man dies and the wife commits suicide and he does everything in his power to bring her back from "hell."

[yvid] v=PJdhumB1V3c [yvid]

I believe that during the transition into the higher realms, all people must go through their own mental reconciliation of their life. It is a fact that time dilates when a person experiences higher consciousness. It would seem like a virtual eternity reconciling that the negative energies that are associated with suicide.

Regardless of the perceived eternal hell one sees during a severe and quick cleansing, every one of us is allowed to pass into the higher levels of the Astral plane or conscience. You just can't take any baggage with you.

Suicide is such a broad term, because it consists of many different intents. However, they have one thing in common. Lots of Negative energy. We all have to go through a process where we begin to forgive others and accept love from the higher conscience before we can walk in brighter light.

It's all a game of light and dark. In reality, "You" don't even exist.