Chief exorcist Father Gabriele Amorth says Devil is in the Vatican, page 1

Chief exorcist Father Gabriele Amorth says Devil is in the Vatican

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Sex abuse scandals in the Roman Catholic Church are proof that that "the Devil is at work inside the Vatican", according to the Holy See's chief exorcist.

Father Gabriele Amorth, 85, who has been the Vatican's chief exorcist for 25 years and says he has dealt with 70,000 cases of demonic possession, said that the consequences of satanic infiltration included power struggles at the Vatican as well as "cardinals who do not believe in Jesus, and bishops who are linked to the Demon".

He added: "When one speaks of 'the smoke of Satan' [a phrase coined by Pope Paul VI in 1972] in the

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Well this guy claims that not only does the Devil exist in various forms, but that the Devil actually makes fun of him at times. I really don't know what to think about this. He said that the possessed actually discharge things from there mouths like finger length pieces of iron or rose petals. How bizarre is this? What are your thoughts?

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reply to post by jackflap

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Related thread: Satanists even in the Vatican?

reply to post by Fang

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Completly anti-being told what to do and how to live, and nothing to do with being anti-RC or anti-pope.. that atitude does meld with the county motto, we wunt be druv (we won't be sheep)

I'm Roman Catholic and go along for a good night out, I'm proud of that and no harm comes to me or my friends.. I'm proud to stand against a silly Gov who want to control how people think, which is in my opinion wrong.

But on the plus side seeing the Local Gov having to dig parking meters etc out of the concrete and hide them from the General public says a lot as to how people really feel about the technology and other stuff being deployed against them.

Edit to add: you should try the Cliffe independence day plenty of fun drinking games, and a pretty colourfull day, no anti-catholic signs at all which now includes some of the other societies..

If it was an anti-catholic socieity it would be apparent in the Independence day celebrations..


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reply to post by thoughtsfull

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A very wise old man once told me that God judges by the heart. If you are a good person I doubt you will be doomed to the depths of hell.

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Anyone here ever seen the first exorcist movie? I used to drive by that hospital every day on my way to work. The 13th floor is still closed to this day. I was always told that the Devil's greatest weapon would be no one believing he exists at all. It is logical if you think about it. I guess it's the old catch 22. You can't believe in one without the other.

I will say this (even those many on here are atheist). I say it's very possible and actually kind of likely. I mean what would be the best organization for the devil to infiltrate? The most predominant christian faith of course.

I'm not saying this is the case, but I'm sure most would agree that it is possible.

Originally posted by DaMod
reply to post by thoughtsfull

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A very wise old man once told me that God judges by the heart. If you are a good person I doubt you will be doomed to the depths of hell.

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Anyone here ever seen the first exorcist movie? I used to drive by that hospital every day on my way to work. The 13th floor is still closed to this day. I was always told that the Devil's greatest weapon would be no one believing he exists at all. It is logical if you think about it. I guess it's the old catch 22. You can't believe in one without the other.

I will say this (even those many on here are atheist). I say it's very possible and actually kind of likely. I mean what would be the best organization for the devil to infiltrate? The most predominant christian faith of course.

I'm not saying this is the case, but I'm sure most would agree that it is possible.

Considering it's the father of all sin, etc, etc, you would expect him to have infiltrated all forms of society, and that we are ALL secretly worshipping him, somehow.

reply to post by hippomchippo

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Well, according to scripture the devil rules the world right now. So you are more than likely correct in that assumption.

That is of course my personal opinion.

reply to post by thoughtsfull

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I know Lewes well and love its anti-establishment vibe, be it blowing up parking meters,
giving The finger to Greene King or issuing its own currency. We have friends who live there and Harveys Brewery is a national gem. I've been to a couple of November 5ths and Sussex is a wonderful county. But the Cliffe 'No Popery/anti Catholic' thing does seem to hang over the town like a cloud or at least a question mark. 'We won't be Druve' is fine but but the lack of local discussion about whether Cliffes pageant is still relevant or offensive, is odd and due in part I suspect to a lack of a backlash. How about a few banners saying 'Mohamed is a false prophet!'. That should liven things up and demonstrate Cliffes die hard credentials.

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