Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by tristar
Seems I may have a vague memory of those 'SAPs' in refernce to certain aspects of the UFO discussion.
As in, the 'Majestic 12' documents. Anything withthe moniker 'Majic' too.
Did my memory jump the shark on this, does anyone know, does it ring and bells?
I don't know about MJ12, (ees not my yob, mane) but this looks like the copy I have in the library, only older, so I confer my opinion of "aura of legitimacy" on it (waves scepter).
Here's some more trivia on this sort of thing:
1) A lot of times, but not always, you use another service branch for your "non-attributable" info. That is, if you are poking at a suspected USAP with a FOIA or at the county seat or whatnot, you will often end up 'discovering' that the phone system or security personnel were put in by the AF or Coast Guard, when in fact it's not them at all. However, a lot of people will stop there. I'm pretty sure I've seen a USAP talked about on ATS some years back that yep, you were right, that was a USAP, but you missed the nature of it when some of the info tracked back to the AF.
2) If it's not a service branch, the next most common thing I've seen is that it will track back to a large state or national utility, like AT&T or TVA.
3) If you've got business at a USAP they will provide quarters on-site so you don't show up in hotels. However, in that case you often see a lot of traffic at cleaners and laundromats just outside the USAP. You gotta get your stuff pressed somewhere.
4) Some USAPs will require you to recite a code sequence when you call, at least the ones I've been in. So if you call and go fishing with "May I speak with Mr Isuspectyouworkhere", you'll get an automatic no, whereas if you first said something on the order of "Please connect me to office 123A" you would proceed to the next round of suspicious interaction. (note that's not the usual format, just an example)
5) At one time there was a special area code (IIRC, 710) that you had to use to dial in, and you had to have a passcode to use it.
6) USAPs near military bases often use the base for other services. Thus you can occasionally spot the existence of one by looking in the AAFES insignia rack for unit paraphernalia that you know aren't on base. The difference between stuff for a USAP and some group that's secretly there on TDY is that the USAP stuff will stay out for a long time (look for dust)
7) Some USAPs operate 'in the open' under the aegis of a university, as an educational foundation
8) GSA being what it is, the cars you're assigned may not have GSA plates in order to be sneaky, but they're stock GSA fleet cars. So look for a lot of GSA looking vehicular traffic with local plates. They used to like Tahoes a lot. Forget getting a Vette or something.
9) Do not taunt Happy Fun USAP. If you try sneaking onto a SAP, you often get nice semi-friendly types like G4S, AirScan or MVM. At USAPs, you will often meet someone you won't like.
10) USAPs are occasionally cleared to enforce security measures outside the USAP itself, if the provocation warrants it.
11) It's a standing gag to speak to each other in something other than English when you're on security patrol or when off the USAP, to fulfill the 'not in the clear' provision. So if you see clean-cut guys in a laundromat with no accents that are occasionally speaking Russian or whatnot, they're likely to be SF. If they have handlebar mustaches, they're CAG.
