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reply posted on 10-3-2010 @ 12:38 AM by On the Edge
reply to post by kerazeesicko



"...(the calculated use of violence or the threat of violence against civilians in order to attain goals that are political)"...

This sounds more like what our government is now doing to us with the constant "war on terror" and the need to make more laws to restrict our freedoms.

The nude airport scanners are an example of what I mean.


reply posted on 10-3-2010 @ 01:23 AM by DeltaChaos
I think that were there any group of individual Americans a)large enough b)well enough armed) and c)organized enough to actually stage a successful military revolution and subsequent coup of the existing government, that they would be so far from representative of the values of the majority of us that it would instantly fail and simply cause an immediate counter-revolution.

That is to say, the only ones that could even come close to being imagined to meet the above criteria would most likely be extreme right-wing/fundamentalist Christian militia types.

I think even though these types of groups are the most likely to try to pull something like this off, they understand that they are outnumbered by the 'moral' majority of this country, and would recognize the futility of the effort. (I take issue with that phrase, 'moral majority' but use it here how it was intended by definition).

Physical revolution by the people, I believe, is completely impossible at this point. The only revolution that is possible is one originating with the leadership of the military. While that is physically possible, I think that the military leadership is too deeply embedded within the political structure for it to happen. Our military leaders are riding the politics bandwagon along with the houses and branches of the government, to say nothing of their mutual complicity in the misgivings of the past few decades.

To speak of a new revolution or a 'new revolutionist' would automatically qualify as misnomer. Terrorist could be closer to the reality. But similar only in that they become desperate enough to commit isolated acts of violence to express their frustration.

Which, essentially is the root cause of terrorism. So yeah, I guess you're right.


reply posted on 10-3-2010 @ 01:29 AM by Brotherman
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So say if there was a coup between 2 political fanctions with military might do you think it would still start a counter revolution say for example like a Nick Cage Alcatraz scenario do you think that it would get the counter revolution or what then?

BTW I did like your above post very interesting point of view *


reply posted on 10-3-2010 @ 01:48 AM by DeltaChaos
reply to post by Brotherman



I'm saying that in the unlikely event that a militia actually succeeded in a coup, that those who were also inclined to revolt now would, since the resulting government would be a defacto, under the new auspice of anarchy.

After having succeeded in attack, they would likely not be prepared for counter-attack, especially from an unknown counter-revolutionary force.

A power vacuum invites competition from all who vie for power.

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