I posted this in another place but not linking it, rather i will paste it here as well.



Intro.

Welcome to ATS Self Defence Club

Our planet (going to be) quite a Battle oriented Planet (in the coming age).

After 2012 ascension this planet will be very martial law oriented, large proportion of men and women will be learning and mastering martial arts (not just spirituality and other stuff), which will support the rest of intelligence on this 3D physical universe / plane…


So I am thinking of writing a few self defence tutorials, starting with basic martial arts training and then going to advanced skill developments, toys and tools and techniques … I am hoping others interested in this might contribute with their own info, their own skills and tricks they learned to protect themselves and their loved ones.


Basically HERE we are not going to be studying anything on military scale, nothing that they teach you in the pit, if you want to learn that, check out the shooting ranges and barrack… or go play Counter Strike and Modern warfare 2. Here we will be studying something only elite fighters know about and for a good reason. After 2012 there wont be any major wars, not on Earth not in space…. Rather there will be specialised martial arts companies, each designed to deal with a specific task / threat / leisure.

A bit of background info: I am a martial arts expert with decades of military experience behind my back in this life, (and several past lives dedicated to self defence as well.) My training was pretty impressive, miles away from what you get in the army on Earth.

I want input from you too here.

I am not sure how we should go about delivering this project. We could I guess publish everything in a thread…. If I can get more people on this we could perhaps make a really nice self defence package, we could write a magazine article like in FHM and maybe a book/leaflet/journal about self defence. Or publish a website. Both magazines for women - Cosmo and men – FHM?loaded.


Before I produce my side of info I would like to hear what you think about it and if you are going to help.

Personally I believe self defence is a vita part of life, it is a life skill… some people use “turn the other chick” and that is fine, but I prefer when I am able to provide protection for me and loved ones. And then it is such a exciting area to learn and master (self defence).

Before you posted this you should have reworded or rethought perhaps your words carefully, if you are one of the people that believe that has jumped on the 2012 bandwagon that's fine, just don't state 2012 and the events that are "supposed to happen in 2012 as a fact" because nobody knows what will happen,

on the other hand i would love to learn more martial arts in general so i think video tutorials would be nice, just leave the 2012 part out of it

I would be very interested in helping others to learn the martial arts.
First off, I don't think I would go into it with the mindset of 2012 doom
and gloom. Things may happen during that time frame, but learning
the arts is good to know at any time.
I am a 1st degree or 1st Dan in Tae-Kwon-Do, having taught for almost
25 years now. I am not invincible and would never begin to think in terms
such as that. Always remember that the martial arts are for DEFENDING
yourself and only using OFFENSIVE if absolutely necessary.
Before a person learns the endless offensive and defensive moves,
one needs to understand it is not going through the motions of flailing
the arms and legs around as if you were trying to be some movie Kung
Foo fighter. The very first thing you HAVE to learn is establishing a good
foundation, just like a house sits upon. Without the foundation, the house
will fall over very soon. So, the beginning martial artist has to learn basic
stances where balance is first learned. If you can't get past the basic
stances, you really have no hope of learning techniques.
If there is an interest, I would be glad to continue with this. One thing I
always ask a beginning student is "Why do you want to learn the martial
arts and what do you expect to be able to do in 6 months or so"?
And I would ask your true intentions. Do you really want to work at
it and become proficient, or do you just want to learn enough techniques
so you can go to your local pub and start a fight or go to your school and
confront the school bully or what? If you want to learn just enough to
make a fool of yourself, and believe me you will, then I wouldn't want to
continue with you as a student.
More later.

[edit on 9-3-2010 by endtimer]

I've been an instructor of Tai Chi now for about 5 or 6 years. I'm very fortunate to have a teacher that was very closely connected to the Grandmaster who was very skilled in self defense and "sticky sword" (same principles can be applied to staff) technique from Taiwan. I'm no master or anything. I mostly instruct the newbies and super newbies but I can now handle myself when confronted with great force or strength, by neutralizing the situation and not trying to win the fight through violence. Great brute force will always defeat itself IMO if the opponent is patient and waits for his opportunity to strike.

Imo the most important factors to self defense are 1) Balance and Root 2) Yielding to Reveal Weakness or Uprooting Opponent's Balance 3) Control, Patience, Focus and Temperance.

All the attack techniques in the world will not help if you can not land a blow. Pushing my teacher is like trying to attack a flag in the breeze. The concept is to never let more than 4 ounces of oppositional force build on your body. And in return use no more than 4 ounces to uproot an opponent.

I once got out of a sticky situation when confronted by a stocky big guy who said "Your're going to do all that flowy tai chi # on me?" as he moved his hands about in a mocking way. I said, "You better be prepared to win, because I'm prepared to lose." He didn't know what to do but he backed away and that was the end of it.

How do you control a 1000 pound bull?



With a ring through it's nose.

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I have been mulling the idea of studying martial arts for some time now, moreso for the discipline factor than for the combat sde of things.

I personaly would welcome ANY pertinent information that could be given, especially on the following

Meditation/focusing techniques
energy summoning
defensive technique
disarming techniques


or really anything else that those of you who are well versed in the subjects feel is important for a beginner.

I believe what the poster was stating is that it is completely useless
to try to defend against a number of people carrying assault rifles. That
is obvious to everyone. Afterall, the Chinese invented the one thing that
would defeat any martial arts, and that is gunpowder.
I am not sure how any of us could actually instruct to any extent on this
site without the use of tons of videos and a lot of headache. I personally
would like to see my students and be able to correct their techniques as
needed. I don't know how people would be practicing without actually
seeing them. You can't just take their word. I teach at my own school
and I am able to correct and strenghten the techniques only by seeing.
If a group of thugs were to smash the door into my house, I would have
to resort to other defenses. Other things than martial arts. Just my $.02.

Dudes i will post my next doc tomoro

For now i just wanted to say that by martial arts i meant ALL aspects of fighting, melee / body as well as all types of weapons

lol who needs Martial Arts when you can falcon punch

In my humble opinion you cannot learn martial arts from youtube, books or even this great website.
If you want to learn how to fight in a short period of time take kickboxing lessons. If you wanna learn to fight real good fast learn krav maga.
If you take some time (7 years and more depending on your talent and dojo) you can learn to fight pretty good no matter what martial art you practice.
Black belts doesnt mean anything. Its all in the mind.....

Peace

Originally posted by ahamarlin
In my humble opinion you cannot learn martial arts from youtube, books or even this great website.
If you want to learn how to fight in a short period of time take kickboxing lessons. If you wanna learn to fight real good fast learn krav maga.
If you take some time (7 years and more depending on your talent and dojo) you can learn to fight pretty good no matter what martial art you practice.
Black belts doesnt mean anything. Its all in the mind.....

Peace

Nobody is going to read about it or watch a video and then walk away a master at it.

There are many things, though, that can be learned through collaboration and discussion. There are also many things that can drive interest in such things that could be learned through discussion.

Not to mention the fact that if you do go and actually train, you are focussed on one particular discipline. In discussion, you can learn various things about various disciplines, which could help newer students choose which area they wish to go train.

And for the record, kickboxing is probably the LAST MA that I would go learn.

Originally posted by LordBucket It's going to be difficult for this thread to not degenerate into a "which style is best" debate. Not that I would mind...I'm sure it would be fun...but I think it's not quite the direction the OP intended. If we do go in that direction, I simply propose that we keep it in context. As I understand it, the OP started this for the case of some sort of post-apacalyptic 2012 world of martial law and mayhem. So we cannot expect to be having one-on-one duels with a single, unarmed opponent who will bow before and after they attack with single punches and then stop and give us time to respond like a good little uke.

I was simply replying to the previous post which said 'if you want to learn fast, learn kickboxing." I have no interest in getting into which one is better. Frankly, none are better than a combination of many.

I have been involved in martial arts for over 30 years. I have a black belt in Tang So Do from many years ago but have studied many different styles. I currently train with an MMA (mixed martial arts) team and suggest an MMA gym with an emphasis on self defense would be one of the better places to learn self defense.

UFC and Vale Tudo or no holds barred fighting have proven that a combination of Muay Thai kick boxing, Brazilian Jui Jitsu, and some western Boxing and Wrestling with a Few traditional MA kicks and hand techniques such as the spinning back kick, spinning back hand or bottom fist is the best combination for fighting and easiest to learn quickly. Doesn't mean other styles cannot be effective but they usually take years of training to be able to use them effectively and can often be somewhat limited in a street fight. Krav Maga would also be a good street fighting art but be careful as there is lots of fake Krav Maga schools.

What ever one decides on a couple of tips to remember is live training is essential meaning part of the training is near real or almost full on short of injuring your training partner. Going over techniques slowly is fine to get the movement down but at some point you have to practice it full bore or at least 90 percent to get realistic training. Any school that does not do hard training, sparring, and grappling as part of its regimen should be avoided IMO.

Also you can learn and execute some pretty good techniques in six month but you need at least two years to form habits that won't disappear when the adrenaline kicks in. Some folks can do it sooner but they are the exception. It has to become second nature so you don't have to think about it you just do it.

That's my 3 cents.

Videos and books do help, sure.
But mostly they supplement what you are already learning.
I have some books by Bruce Lee, reading them I've put some of his stuff into practice, but over all it's working with what I'm already learning through the classes I take.
It's also very important to have a partner to work with, as if you just train by yourself, you may nto realize when you drop your guard, when you're unbalanced, or when you may leave yourself open to your opponent.

Also, something that I came across in a translation of Miyamoto Mushashi's Book of Five Rings that I think is important, is he stresses, that despite which weapon you favor, you should still be proficient in other weapons.

A good quote from it would be:

You should not have a favorite weapon. To become over-familiar with one weapon is as much a fault as not knowing it sufficiently well. You should not copy others, but use weapons which you can handle properly.