reply to post by GenRadek
But it would literally require THOUSANDS of people to be working on trying to pull off something so uber-complicated as faking a terrorist
I do not believe it would take thousands of people to pull off a false flag operation and yes it is my opinion, as it is your opinion that thousands
of people had to be involved.
All that preparation would require a substantial amount of people to set it all up.
That has yet to be proven.
This isnt something 10 or 100 people would be able to do, but a few thousand to cover all the aspects required to pull this off.
I disagree, this is your opinion, do you have any evidences to support this claim?
This is what you are supporting when you make the innuendos that our govt is secretly responsible for 9/11, planning it, executing it,
There is enough circumstantial evidences that supports this claim, and how our government has behaved about answering any and all questions about the
events of 911 and not to mention the stonewalling of all the investigation in to 911 and the lies the White House and the Pentagon told the 911
commissioners that supports the above statements.
Gross incompetence is far more pervasive than you would think.
I do not doubt for one minutes there was some gross incompetence from some of the departments in our military and government offices in how they
handled some of the events of that day.
However, Gross incompetence will not explain why millions of tons of the WTC concrete were blasted into a very fine powder.
In addition, it will not explain why there was molten steel melting in pools and burning under the WTC for weeks after 911. These are the undeniable
facts that we cannot ignore. NIST has fail to address these issues, in fact NIST has behaved as if there were no melting of steel, or pools of steel
under the WTC rubble, yet there were plenty of firemen who complained about it.
Of course they are going to cover their ass and stonewall and everything to divert the fact that they got caught with their pants don because a
few people screwed up BIG TIME due to incompetence, red tape, competition and infighting amongst the intel agencies and security agencies.
I do not doubt some did cover up their mistakes, but I believe it is because the communications was deliberately kept silent between the White House
and the Pentagon as evidences certainly supports this.
Your claims of wanting a "new investigation" are suspicious. I have a gut feeling that even if there was a "new investigation" and it turns
out that I was right about the negligence and incompetence of the higher ups, and they get punished, you and the TM will not be satisfied.
The American people want a new investigation and we do not want the government doing it because most of us do not trust the government do to their
covering up and stonwalling and second it is because it has already been proven they lied to us about some of the inquiries into 911.
There never has been a proper investigation into 911 by the government.
To the TM, they want the truth of what happened to be the govt
No, TM only wants the truth we are not looking to blame anyone we only support the evidences and the facts.
I put together some very important reading materials for you that show something different happened at the WTC 7 other than what our government told
WTC 7: A short computation
Kenneth L. Kuttler
Professor of Mathematics
Brigham Young University
Provo, Utah 84602
I provide a short computation, focused on World Trade Center building 7. Based on very favorable
assumptions for achieving a fast fall, including ignoring resistance due to intact steel columns, I could only get
the building to fall in about 8.3 seconds, whereas the observed roof-fall time is approximately 6.5 seconds.
The problem is the large number of floors and conservation of momentum in a collision. Some of the “official”
explanations about progressive collapse are evocative but they do not explain the difficulty in the rapid fall of
the building along with what is evidently taking place when the video of the falling building is observed.
A&E did the math and NIST phony math doesn’t stand up to conventional mathematics.
Explosives Found in
World Trade Center Dust
Scientists Discover Both Residues
And Unignited Fragments
Of Nano-Engineered Thermitic Pyrotechnics
In Debris From the Twin Towers
Environmental anomalies at the World Trade Center: evidence
for energetic materials
This Journal is very scientifically credible, it has been peer- reviewed, and there has been no peer-reviewed paper that refutes these credible
This overview of witness accounts shows that the evacuation of the area surrounding WTC 7 started sometime around 4 PM, and was completed
only a few minutes before the 5:20 collapse. The warnings of the collapse, which are recalled in dozens of accounts by emergency responders, show a
striking consistency of conviction that the collapse would occur.
Premature Announcements on Television Broadcasts
These premature reports were uncovered in the wake of the publication of URLS of a vast archive of television footage.
The following pages contain partial transcripts of these premature reports.
• BBC premature announcement of WTC 7's collapse
• CNN premature announcement of WTC 7's collapse
Vast Archive of Footage
The premature announcements of the collapse of WTC by television networks went unnoticed until researchers discovered a vast archive of television
broadcast footage from the day of the attack. On February 22, 2007, a post on 911Blogger.com listed the URLs on Archive.org of 417 mpeg recordings
capturing about 60 hours broadcast coverage starting on the morning of 9/11/01 from each of six different television stations. Each of the
high-quality recordings covering about 41 minutes of broadcast.
WTC 7 Collapse Foreknowledge
Reports of Foreknowledge of the Collapse of Building 7 in the Oral Histories
The oral histories released on August 12, 2005 contain many reports of warnings of the collapse of WTC Building 7 at various times during the day.
Most of the warnings were from after about 4 PM.
Joseph Cahill -- Paramedic (E.M.S.)
The reason we were given for why we were moving was that 7 World Trade Center was going to collapse or was at risk of collapsing. So we must have been
somewhere in this area where we would have had a problem with that. But I honestly don't remember.
They wanted us to move the treatment sector because of 7 World Trade Center was imminently to collapse, which, of course, it did.
Interview, 10/15/2001, New York Times
Tiernach Cassidy -- Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.), Engine 3
Then, like I said, building seven was in eminent collapse. They blew the horns. They said everyone clear the area until we got that last civilian out.
We tried to give another quick search while we could, but then they wouldn't let us stay anymore. So we cleared the area. ... So yeah, then we just
stayed on Vesey until building seven came down.
Interview, 12/30/2001, New York Times
Pete Castellano -- Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.), Ladder 149
We were ordered down from the tower ladder because of a possible collapse at Tower 7.
Interview, 12/28/2001, New York Times
Jason Charles -- E.M.T. (E.M.S.), Battalion 13
So we started heading over to where Building 7 was at and they were like Building 7 is going to collapse, you can't go over there, this and that, and
there was another building that they thought was going to collapse that was like right behind the triage center, the building that we were in.
Interview, 1/23/2002, New York Times
There is enough credible eyewitness reports that went on record to prove there was foreknowledge of WTC7 was going to come down. The fact is there
were a few fires in the WTC 7 but not enough to bring the tower down. In fact photo evidences and videos of that day prove the WTC was not engulf in
flames on every floor, yet the WTC 7 collapsed in the same manners as the demolitions that was done on some of the old Casino in Las Vegas.
Research: False Flag operations.
False Flag Terrorism