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Topic started on 8-3-2010 @ 09:18 PM by autowrench

In ancient times mankind did not have churches and you did not have to "Know Jesus" or "take him into your heart," or "gain the Holy Spirit" to get into heaven. Though if you knew the chief Priest or Shamen really well he might let you have a glimpse of heaven. He or she would give you a drug that caused a hallucination, usually a member of the mushroom family, the red cap variety. Mushrooms,(Particularly Aminita Muscaria)Yes these little things were also quite a wonder. Where did they come from? The ancient people had no immediate concept of spores. So a Mushroom was considered a "virgin birth". Also they immediately noticed that mushrooms came after the rains and they would pick them in the early hours of the morning. This was the "MANNA FROM HEAVEN" that the Israelites would gather. The word "Manna" means "What is it". Well, after consuming it you would probably be wondering "What is it" as you were talking to God.
Having consumed rep mushrooms a few times, I can tell you that talking to the God, or the Goddess is a very simple and easy thing to do. the effects take your mind into other dimensions. Warning! Red Caps are poison, and it is the poison that provides the effect.

Scholars who compiled the exhaustive 10 volumes of the "Cyclopaedia of Biblical, Theological and Ecclesiastical Literature" Under the article "Church" also subscribe to this pagan derivation of the word "Church." It says:

"The Word Church: The origin of the word is uncertain. In the Germanic and Slavonic languages it is found as follows: Anglo-Saxon, cyrica, circ, cyric; English, church; Scottish, kirk; German, kirche; Low-German, karke; Frisan, tzierke; Danish, kyrke; Swedish, Kyrka; Bohemian, cyrkew; Polish, cerkiew; Russian, zerkow. There was probably some word which, in the language from which the Teutonic and Slavonic are descended, designated the old heathen places of religious assembly, and this word, having taken different forms in different dialects, was adopted by the Christian missionaries. It was probably connected with the Latin circus, circulus, and with the Greek kuklos. Lipsius, who was the first to reject the received tradition, was probably right in his suggestion" (Volume II, p.322).

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The word "Church" comes from the Goddess "Circe" (Pronouned Sir-Cee) which is where we get the word "Circle" or "Circus". She is known for getting men drunk on her wine (her religion) and turning them into swine. In Scottish, it is pronounced "Kirk".

No one should dictate their view of God (Religion) on anyone else. This is how all real wars develop. All not-real wars are FOR PROFIT.

With enough Knowledge out there, eventually people will return back to a state of self-interpretation of spirituality instead of being told what God wants or has said. or is thinking.

The ancient people held a set of belief systems which were very primitive as far as simplicity but they were extremely knowledgeable in their understanding. Even of the mechanics of the planets in our system, they had a great working knowledge of things unknown to modern man.

It doesn't matter what religion you are today, there is a common underlying source of ideas and these ideas are what have come down through history.
Therefore all religions have certain things in common and have all borrowed their current ideas and doctrines from older religions. This can be seen by looking at the COMMON SYMBOLISM.

Now lest us reflect on the word WORD.
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John 1:1-3
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

So here we have it, The Word comes, then all is created. Words have Power, people, make no mistake here.

Word:
O.E. word "speech, talk, utterance, word," from P.Gmc. *wurdan (cf. O.S., O.Fris. word, Du. woord, O.H.G., Ger. wort, O.N. orð, Goth. waurd), from PIE *were- "speak, say" (see verb). The meaning "promise" was in O.E., as was the theological sense. In the plural, the meaning "verbal altercation" (as in to have words with someone) dates from 1462. Wordy is O.E. wordig "verbose." Wording "choice of words" apparently was coined by Milton (in "Eikonoklastes," 1649). Word processor first recorded 1970. A word to the wise is from L. phrase verbum sapienti satis est "a word to the wise is enough." Word of mouth is recorded from c.1553.
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So, Words are Power. Christians, you say the Word "Jesus" a lot of times during the day, no? Ever research the Word, and the meaning thereof?

OXFORD ENGLISH DICTIONARY

The English and common European representation, since the 16th c., of the Hebrew divine name Yhwh. This word (the _sacred tetragrammaton') having come to be considered by the Jews too sacred for utterance, was pointed in the O.T. by the Masoretes with the vowels ' (= a), o, a, of adonai, as a direction to the reader to substitute Adonai for the _ineffable name'; which is actually done by Jerome in the Vulgate translation of Exodus vi. 3, and hence by Wyclif. Students of Hebrew at the Revival of Letters took these vowels as those of the word Yhwh (IHUH, JHVH) itself, which was accordingly transliterated in Latin spelling as IeHoVa(H), i.e. Iehoua(h. It is now held that the original name was IaHUe(H), i.e. Jahve(h, or with the English values of the letters, Yahwe(h, and one or other of these forms is now generally used by writers upon the religion of the Hebrews. The word has generally been understood to be a derivative of the verb hawah to be, to exist, as if _he that is', _the self-existent', or _the one ever coming into manifestation'; this origin is now disputed, but no conjectured derivation which has been substituted has found general acceptance.

The following is cited as the first use of the form Iehoua (Jehova):---1516 P. Galatinus De Arcanis Cath. Veritatis ii. lf. xlviij, Non enim he quatuor litere [yhwh] si, ut punctate sunt, legantur, Ioua reddunt: sed (ut ipse optime nosti) Iehoua efficiunt.]

1. The principal and personal name of God in the Old Testament; in English versions usually represented by _the LORD'. Hence in modern Christian use, = God, the Almighty.

1530 Tindale Exod. vi. 3, I appeared vnto Abraham Isaac and Iacob an allmightie God: but in my name Iehouah [Wyclif Adonay] was I not knowne vnto them.

1539 Bible (Great) Ps. lxxxiii. 18 They shall know that thou (whose name is Iehoua) art only the most hyest ouer all the earth.

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So you see, the WORD you use, "Jesus," has not one thing to do with the original meaning of the Word. The Word "Jesus" could actualy mean anything at all, even something that would be considered evil in any Christian's eyes.

What if when the Word "Jesus" is "invoked" by a person, a certian power associated with the word goes into play. The Vatican knows who the real God your power goes to is, but they are not telling you. The Templars knew the truth, and the Church made them into millionaires, or the equivaleant in those days, and then ganged up and burned the leader at the stake, a common Christian way of dealing with evil persons.

The Christian religion is nothing more than a re-telling of the ancient Hebrew and Egyptian religions. There is NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN as they say.

So-called “Judaism” is nothing but Babylonian Talmudic Pharisaism, which at its base is plain paganism, pantheistic atheism, a conglomeration of all the forms of paganism concocted through the centuries.

The religion of the ancient Egyptians is known to have consisted prominently of Sun-worship. Moses sternly warned the Israelites against worshipping the Sun, Moon, stars, and all the hosts of heaven (Deuteronomy 4:19; 17:3)So why do Christians call upon the "Son," Real word, "Sun" in ritual and worship? Why do Christians invoke the Egyptian God Amun Re every time they end a prayer with theWord "Amen?"

Jeremiah, who prophesied in the sixth year of the captivity of Jehoiachin (591 B.C.) describes the worship of the Sun as practised in the court of the Temple (Ezekiel 8:16) and that even after the destruction of the Temple the women insisted on continuing to worship the Queen of Heaven …

“The ancient Hebrews, being nomads like the Arabs, favoured the Moon, while the Babylonians, who were an agricultural nation, preferred the Sun. But, as appears from Ezekiel 20:7-8 the Moon-worship of the Israelites, even while they were still in Egypt was combined with Sun-worship.” Son worship. Same Word,different meaning. The Sun, universally, in paganism, represented the male procreative spirit, the Moon the female. The weeping for Tammuz, and his powers of human and agricultural fertility, was a Babylonian ceremonial. Tammuz was also called Adonis, and the female counterpart Astarte, Mylitta, or Venus, according to location. The Goddess is said to have 10,000 names, and through my own research of her, I can believe that.

The origins of words, and the true meaning of, can really change a person's way of thinking, on anything at all. Many just read a thing, and take it most literally, while in reality the word they speak give a great power to an unknown spirit in an unknown place, never seen nor heard. but if you are a part of an organized, dogmatic religious practice, I can guarantee that the power you send out does not go where, or to whom you may think you are sending it.

You can wake up now, or continue to sleep.

reply posted on 8-3-2010 @ 10:11 PM by rainfall

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Interesting read autowrench...

So are we being tricked by the words we use..?..I thought our language was written in our DNA.?..

reply posted on 8-3-2010 @ 10:47 PM by Alxandro

Why must we resort to any of the audible spoken language?
Satan can hear what you say but cannot read your mind.

It's possible the meaning of the word "WORD" may have gotten lost in translation at some point in time.
Seems to me a thought would hold much more power over the spoken word itself.

reply posted on 8-3-2010 @ 10:55 PM by CalibratedZeus

Originally posted by Alxandro
It's possible the meaning of the word "WORD" may have gotten lost in translation at some point in time.
Seems to me a thought would hold much more power over the spoken word itself.

Well put, and awesome post autowrench.

I believe the spoken word is what destroyed all true human spirituality. When we didn't need words, our pineal gland did the talking. With the creation of spoken language and such we relied less and less on our spiritual communication and more and more on physical communication eventually ridding ourselves of the need for any other form of contact.

reply posted on 8-3-2010 @ 11:05 PM by Alxandro

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Spiritual communication is what I truly believe was lost during the time of Babylon.
Then, confusion was intentionally introduced in the form of the spoken language(s).
Up until then, everyone is said to have spoken one language.
I believe this universal language was actually what we would consider today as mental telepathy or mind reading.

Maybe this is what was originally known as "the word" ?

reply posted on 8-3-2010 @ 11:27 PM by autowrench

Telepathy is the true language of the human race, this is what was taken away at the Tower of Babel indecent. And it would not be "mind reading," no, it is not like that at all. I have a friend who lives far from me, we have never met. A few years ago, her thinking being aligned with mine, that we would begin an experiment in telepathy to see if it actually worked. Well, it did work, and the next few days was bliss for both of us. She reported she saw me standing in her kitchen, and described me right down to the clothes i had on, and my tattoos. Then she appeared to me, in full form, and when she spoke, I could hear her voice in my head. In was quite magickal. After a few days though, it became very sexual, at least that was the strong vibe we were both getting from each other. Both of us being married, we broke off the communication. I still "call her up" once in awhile, and she calls me up too. We are tight friends, even though we have never met, and through this experiment I know that telepathy is real, and it works. You just have to be open to it, and practice with a friend, like I did.

Back to the post, the point I was trying to make is that some words we commonly use may have another meaning altogether. Example:
I am sitting at a computer. that is what it is, that is it's name. What if it's real name is Fragialistic? What if someone came into your room right now and asked you if they could use your Fragialistic to check emails? You would look at them funny, huh? but what if that was what the person learned to call it, from an early childhood?

Words also have a great power. There are certain words that can call forth a being from another dimension, Christians would call this a demon. The great biblical King Solomon did just that, he held in a ring the power to control these beings, and he made them build the First Temple, and to mine gold and jewels from the mines in Africa. It has been said is one says the true name of God backward, creating would cease to exist. Some say this could be done by reciting the lord's Prayer backwards.

There are words that will stop any being from most any dimension cold in their tracks.
there are words of Love, and words of Hate. I think if we all were telepathic we would not have to deal with all this petty fighting among religions for control of our Soul, something they will never have from me. Neither will any alien have control of my Soul. Words are powerful, use them wisely, friend. Love and Light to all Beings.

reply posted on 8-3-2010 @ 11:36 PM by Alethea

Nice post, Autowrench.

I had read some info on the mushroom-manna connection awhile back. It has also been speculated that Jesus used a mushroom in turning water into wine. Supposedly it was a mushroom that can be eaten without effects and the active hallucinogens are only present in urine.

It does make you wonder what kind of bush--exactly---Moses was burning. I suppose most people visualize it as a bush rooted in the ground set on fire. But.....maybe it was leaves he picked from a bush and rolled? How do we know "burning the bush" wasn't venacular for smoking a doobie in those days?

Many species of acacia contain tryptamines so Moses could have made potions from this, or Syrian rue is another possibility. The only thing I don't understand is why, if they were using these things, that there should have been any bloody wars.

On another note---here is an interesting word origin from the glossary of meteorology:

It should be noted that the Carib god 'Hurican' was derived from the Mayan god 'Hurakan', one of their creator gods, who blew his breath across the Chaotic water and brought forth dry land and later destroyed the men of wood with a great storm and flood .

The visual symbol that represents this Mayan/Aztec god called Hurakan is a bird; perhaps because god was thought to be a bird with great wings that stirred the winds.

reply posted on 9-3-2010 @ 06:41 PM by davesidious

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Apparently "Church" comes from the Greek "kyrios", meaning "ruler" or "lord".

If you got that wrong, I think I'll skip the rest.

reply posted on 10-3-2010 @ 10:41 PM by autowrench

Oh, yes, you are right. The CHURCH first of all invented a God, and his mortal enemy a Devil, then they set themselves up as God's personal representative here on Earth, to collect god's money, and if you are nice enough in the collection plate, then perhaps a prayer will be sent to God for you. In researching the ancient words, and the modern words, one can see how words are used on a daily basis to mind control you. Words like "Al-Qaeda," "WMDs," "Terrorists," "Taliban." On another note, the words are "Jesus," "Allah." What do the words really mean? Figure this out, and you know what's going on.

reply posted on 11-3-2010 @ 06:40 AM by davesidious

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No, you tell me. You offer me conclusive evidence that backs up your position, or I won't lift a finger to believe you.

That's how the world works. It is not up to me to engage you in your fantasy.

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