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Therefore, Bugliosi argues, the deaths of over 4,000 American soldiers and 100,000 Iraqi civilians since hostilities began (as of spring 2008)
The Iraq War, also known as the Occupation of Iraq, The Second Gulf War Operation Iraqi Freedom, or Operation New Dawn is an ongoing military campaign which began on March 20, 2003, with the invasion of Iraq by a multinational force led by troops from the United States and the United Kingdom.
Originally posted by December_Rain
I will be closely watching his trial as the outcome may affect any future visit of Bush to foreign countries.
If partisanship is totally out of your mind then why did you assume I would respond differently to Obama allowing it than Bush allowing it?
Then you should agree that the way they are abducting people without due process and then sending them to military prisons to be tortured is wrong.
Originally posted by jam321
If partisanship is totally out of your mind then why did you assume I would respond differently to Obama allowing it than Bush allowing it?
No assumption. I will defend Obama just as I do Bush.
Then you should agree that the way they are abducting people without due process and then sending them to military prisons to be tortured is wrong.
Torture is wrong period, and I'm no fan of abductions and the rest of the game.
That being said, a President doesn't have all the answers and has to rely on his advisors as well as members of Congress.
I am an equal opportunity guy, if you want justice, go after all of them, because I guarantee you that one didn't do it alone.
On the fishing trip in question - where Mr Putin joined Mr Bush and his father, President George Bush Senior - the Russian leader was the only one to catch anything, reportedly a striped bass 30 inches (76cm) long. He also made a small gaffe, referring to Bush Sr and Jr as the 40th and 42nd presidents of the US - who were in fact Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton - as he politely said the catch had been a team effort.
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Originally posted by Iamonlyhuman
The article never did say what he is accused of - just what they were accusing GW of. Any idea?
Originally posted by NightGypsy
reply to post by johnny2127
Can anyone here show me one war where there were not interrogations or 'torture'? Anyone? I think many of you do not realize the brutalities of war. You want to convict Bush of the same things you ignore that every world leader that has ever presided over a war has done and authorized. It shows the hypocrisy, illogical and intellectual dishonesty of this movement and the people involved in it.
I'm sure most ATS members are not naive enough to believe torture isn't an inherent part of war. That still DOESN'T make it right...
Why are you presuming anyone to be ignoring the fact that other world leaders have authorized torture? I haven't read any posts that suggest it's okay for other leaders to give their blessings for torture, but not for Bush.
I see no hypocrisy or illogical and intellectual dishonesty here. What I see is Americans trying to obtain justice for acts that portray America as cruel and barbaric. I thought America was supposed to represent a higher level of respect for human life, as opposed to stooping to the level of animals.
What next, we'll just start lopping off our opponents heads on camera and sending the footage to the enemy country simply because other leaders think it's okay to do it?
Data compiled by London-based Opinion Research Business (ORB) and its research partner in Iraq, the Independent Institute for Administration and Civil Society Studies (IIACSS) reveals a fifth of Iraqi households lost at least one family member between March 2003 and August 2007 due to the conflict.
The study based its findings on survey work involving the face-to-face questioning of 2,414 Iraqi adults aged 18 or above, and the last complete census in Iraq in 1997, which indicated a total of 4.05 million households.
Respondents were asked how many members of their household, if any, had died as a result of the violence in the country since 2003, and not because of natural causes.
"We now estimate that the death toll between March 2003 and August 2007 is likely to have been in the order of 1,033,000," ORB said in a statement.