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Topic started on 8-3-2010 @ 05:44 PM by December_Rain

Proof that 9/11 Truthers Are Dangerous


www.globalresearch.ca
Most Americans don't know what kind of people 9/11 truthers really are. So they can't figure out whether or not they are dangerous.

Below is a list of people who question what our Government has said about 9/11.

The list proves - once and for all - that people who question 9/11 are dangerous.

Email this list to everyone you know, to prove to them that 9/11 truthers are all dangerous nut cases.
(visit the link for the full news article)


reply posted on 8-3-2010 @ 05:44 PM by December_Rain
This is a great article and has listed some distinguished personalities from Senior intelligence officers; Congressmen; 9/11 Commissioners and other government officials.

Here is an excerpt from the article
9/11 Commissioners:

The Commission's co-chairs said that the
9/11 Commissioners knew that military officials misrepresented the facts to the Commission, and the Commission considered recommending criminal charges for such false statements (free subscription required)

9/11 Commission co-chair Lee Hamilton says "I don't believe for a minute we got everything right", that the Commission was set up to fail, that people should keep asking questions about 9/11, and that the 9/11 debate should continue

9/11 Commissioner Timothy Roemer said "We were extremely frustrated with the false statements we were getting"

9/11 Commissioner Max Cleland resigned from the Commission, stating: "It is a national scandal"; "This investigation is now compromised"; and "One of these days we will have to get the full story because the 9-11 issue is so important to America. But this White House wants to cover it up"

9/11 Commissioner Bob Kerrey said that "There are ample reasons to suspect that there may be some alternative to what we outlined in our version . . . We didn't have access . . . ."

And the Senior Counsel to the 9/11 Commission (John Farmer) - who led the 9/11 staff's inquiry - recently said "At some level of the government, at some point in time...there was an agreement not to tell the truth about what happened". He also said "I was shocked at how different the truth was from the way it was described .... The tapes told a radically different story from what had been told to us and the public for two years.... This is not spin. This is not true."


This was just an example of a small excerpt from the whole article. There are numerous sources given for every statement and testimony.

Few people included U.S. General, Commanding General of U.S. European Command and Supreme Allied Commander Europe, decorated with the Bronze Star, Silver Star, and Purple Heart (General Wesley Clark); Former Federal Prosecutor, Office of Special Investigations, U.S. Department of Justice under Presidents Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan; former U.S. Army Intelligence officer, and currently a widely-sought media commentator on terrorism and intelligence services (John Loftus); Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense under President Ronald Reagan (Col. Ronald D. Ray) etc.

It's astonishing such 'dangerous nut cases' are allowed to roam free.



www.globalresearch.ca
(visit the link for the full news article)


reply posted on 8-3-2010 @ 05:54 PM by Whyhi
reply to post by December_Rain



It's astonishing such 'dangerous nut cases' are allowed to roam free.


Did I just hear a conspiracy theorist say the government /agencies are free of "nut cases" and or stupid people?

PS: There IS indeed a difference between asking questions and roaming around with 9/11 truth signs telling me the towers fell at free fall etc.



reply posted on 8-3-2010 @ 05:58 PM by December_Rain
reply to post by Whyhi



Lmao, you are correct mate ...I didn't even paid attention that I actually wrote that.


reply posted on 8-3-2010 @ 07:40 PM by weedwhacker
reply to post by December_Rain



'Rain'....how do you interpret their remarks?

It's rather vague, could be anything.

To me, reading between the lines, I see allusions to the fact that Bush administration covered up their incompetence, with a lot of backside-covering and finger-pointing laying of blame, all to deflect from their ineptitude.

IF there were actual knowledge of intentional wrong-doing....would not these people have said so, outright?

And, yes...I know that some might think it's "too dangerous" for them to speak up, in that instance...but, they already have!!! Safety in numbers, all that. Provides a measure of protection, dunnit? (Assuming you wish to allege they'll get 'bumped off' for speaking out?)

On a somewhat related note, a court cleared the way for a lawsuit against Rummy for authorizing torture methods.

I think there's a heckuva lot more there, than in the 9/11 case.



reply posted on 8-3-2010 @ 08:16 PM by impressme
I didn’t read to much that was “vague” perhaps those that support the OS fairytales like to pretend there is nothing to these public military and government official statements that are against the OS of 911.

I don’t put incompetence, in the same category as a deliberate attempt to cover up the real crime of 911, for example:

Records of 9/11 Response Not for Public, City Says


www.nytimes.com...

Court to decide access to 9/11 tapes
Newsday - Wednesday, February 9, 2005


www.skyscrapersafety.org...

NY judge ‘sanitizes’ 9/11 airline trials, blocks key fed witness testimony

Hellerstein cancels FBI, CIA, counter-terror chiefs’ testimony, asserts bias against punitive damages despite foreign conflicts

www.tomflocco.com...
Lou Dobbs on CNN Asks Why Government is Lying about 9/11
2006-08-09, CNN News


transcripts.cnn.com...

A shocking new book by the 9/11 Commission co-chairmen Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton says Americans still don't know the whole truth about their government's initial response to those terrorist attacks that day. [The book] outlines repeated misstatements by the Pentagon and Federal Aviation Administration. Fog of war...could not explain why all of the after-action reports, accident investigations, and public testimony by FAA and NORAD officials advanced an account of 9/11 that was untrue.

Untrue -- the military's original timeline of United Flight 93. Equally untrue, the government's timeline for American Flight 77 and details about fighter jets scrambled to intercept it. DOD did not accurately report to the 9/11 Commission on the response to the September 11, 2001 hijackings. So far, government investigators stopped short of calling all of these inaccuracies lies. If all of the after-action reports are untrue, for whatever reason, that's a lie.
Incompetence and ineptitude on the part of this government...in the weeks leading up to 9/11 are established. The fact that the government would permit deception...the fact that they would continue and perpetuate the lie suggests that we need a full investigation of what is going on and what is demonstrably an incompetent and at worst deceitful federal government.


www.wanttoknow.info...

When you have court judges protecting government key witness by not allowing them to testify by protecting this corrupt government, this tells us, that it is not about incompetence.
I believe most people will agree with that.


[edit on 8-3-2010 by impressme]


reply posted on 9-3-2010 @ 03:40 AM by zeddissad
reply to post by weedwhacker



OK - lets play this "democracy" and "justice" card. How is it possible, that nobody was prosecuted for "neglect to act" (not sure which term is proper for this in lawyers terms in US)? Is not this aspect sufficient reason for new investigation? Was 911 really inevitable as bombing of Hiroshima/Nagasaki was? If there is country which have (financial/military/intelligence/security protocols) capability to avert such attack, than it is for sure USA. And US taxpayers spend on "security" really lot of many.

EDIT to add: Let say it "systemic failure" but somebody should be responsible for system design.

[edit on 9-3-2010 by zeddissad]


reply posted on 9-3-2010 @ 06:37 AM by felonius
reply to post by December_Rain



Rain, Dang it! Just when I'm sure that you are a total pain in the posterior troll or just contrary as hell, you go and do another great thread like this!

Nice work!

I wish you would stop this sort of thing! I'm starting to actually like you (like a bad brother in law) !


reply posted on 9-3-2010 @ 06:41 AM by zeddissad
reply to post by ofhumandescent



You are right - there is no Anti-Americanism - we just globally oppose actions of US government. If some US citizens feel that theirs government is really theirs ... sorry, do your homework.



reply posted on 9-3-2010 @ 06:48 AM by TailoredVagabond
reply to post by December_Rain



I love that post - the Goverment employs "dangerous" individuals who serve in one way or another as officials of the state, some holding very senior positions.

I believe that we are close to a tipping point, in fact consciously (collectively) we may be already past it - that point is where most people commonly accept, not just "believe", as major polls would suggest, that 9/11 commission report was a cover up.

Just like nobody REALLY believes Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK - it is ONLY a matter of time before the a similar attitude is affirmed/confirmed against the 9/11 official story and against those who vehemently persue its endorsement in or by the mainstream media, national curriculum and "common knowledge".

The truth movement is gaining ground in the mainstream media, which can only serve to highlight the gaping holes in the official story. These so-called "dangerous" people add more credence to the truth mocement and, that gives us but two words to think about, people:

Running. Scared.

[edit on 9/3/2010 by TailoredVagabond]


reply posted on 9-3-2010 @ 07:00 AM by HappilyEverAfter
One would hope that whether you have been assigned the label' truther', or 'o.s. believer' , and you are not operating on a blind agenda, that you would not stall or impede but welcome a revisit and assembly of all the facts gathered to this point, and allow an open and viewable indepth investigation.
The circle of argument without culmination only allows for time to pass and does not provide focus or integrity to a nation or its people so dearly in need of unity, direction and substance.
The guise of national security as a reason to suppress, must not be the easy and ready excuse to allow others to hide behind and afforded an out, a safe passage, an escape from wrong doing if in fact there is proof and substance against specific individuals.
If an adjustment to a change in an end result is warranted, then so be it.
The collision of "presented" information whether through government releases or controlled media, and the now greater than ever accessible data to "individuals" has ushered in a condition of knowledge shared worldwide, that no longer allows the populace to be spoon fed, or blindly led.
It is no longer so easy to lie successfully, and continuously, and that fact in itself should be embraced by those currently residing on both sides of the fence.
It would do all people well, to throw off the position based entrenchments of obdurate thoughts and for the collective sake of humanity and its future, for the empowerment of the individual, to join together without prejudice and demand an independent investigation, exhaust all avenues of data and disclosure, and if needed, swift and final prosecution.
The event itself will never be erased, but the closure has yet to be written.


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