Under the policy, yes, if a girl self-identifies as male, she would be allowed to use the male locker and bathrooms.

There is a part of me that is made uncomfortable about this, simply because it seems rather exploitable. But I think it would be pretty hard for an elementary student to effectively fake self-identifying as female to catch a glimpse of some underdeveloped girls. It takes a lot of work for anyone official to even recognize an adult as identifying as the other gender, and a kid's probably going to have to suffer a lot before they get recognized. No one's going to be taken advantage of.

That thing with the athlete really ticked me off. She was a woman, and it's as simple as that. Had she been a transvestite rather than a hermaphrodite (intersex, whatever) it would have been a different story. Maybe it would've been a little different even if she were TG. But she was a woman.

What if we really have to go and the male bathroom is closed for renovation??? What option do we have!?

Originally posted by SuperSlovak
What if we really have to go and the male bathroom is closed for renovation??? What option do we have!?

I've seen that plenty of times at sports events and such.

As long as the girl minds her own business I don't have a problem with it. I do however think women who do this should acknowledge that they are putting themselves at risk. There are plenty of perverts out there who might try to take a peek or something more. A woman who does this better be ready to defend herself if things go bad.


The situation in the article is quite different, it's not a matter of necessity. Personally, I think that until the person has had their junk rearranged, they should use the restroom that conforms to their physical attributes.

I imagine if a man were to attempt to enter a women's room, he would be attacked immediately, long before he had a chance to explain his "gender identification". probably locked up to.

The PC BS has gone too far in this country as far as I'm concerned.

i think they call ppl like this transgendered......and theres a really easy solution for this that i have found in many places that arent overtly trying to accomodate ppl with gender issues....its called a patron bathroom...and very commonly you will see one with both male and female symbols on the door...the door is lockable and is only for one person. Problem solved....next?

This would have been a great gimmick when I had to take swimming in high school.

Originally posted by thoughtsfull
I don't see a reason why they are creating a major issue out of this, considering other places in the world already have transsexual toilets, which would cater for male to female and female to male issues

I wonder what's the etiquette regarding leaving the seat up/ down in those transsexual toilets.

This alone could be enough reason to keep the boys out of the girls' bathroom. Could you imagine the girls going on the warpath if the guy left the seat up just a couple of times?

And how would they react if he had bad aim and didn't wipe the seat?

The only reason I dont want men in MY bathroom is simple. They dont have the best of aim.

I dont care if all bathrooms transition to unisex. half of the room could be geared to girls the other half to boys with urinals.

Seriously everybody poops man.

Another solution is one woman one man and one unisex bathroom.

Or like above, a locked all sex bathroom.

I always took my boys to the bathroom with me til they were ten or so. Public bathrooms are nasty.

But for transgender issue, unisex would work fine.

Well I've dealt with this sort of issue in the past and I have a simple philosphy.

Use the bathroom that you have the equipment for.

I understand that some males and some females identify with the opposite gender, but this is a bit out of hand don't you think?

I mean sure, let them live free of discrimination, but don't give them special rights just because they want em.

I sound like all the people who argue with me over gay rights, but this to me is just a bit much.

~Keeper

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
Well I've dealt with this sort of issue in the past and I have a simple philosphy.

Use the bathroom that you have the equipment for.

~Keeper

You said that so much better than I did earlier in the thread:

Personally, I think that until the person has had their junk rearranged, they should use the restroom that conforms to their physical attributes.

I feel humbled before your eloquence.

I am a nudist/naturist and have dealt with this for years at nude beaches.

Go to a nudist/naturist beach in Germany and sharing bathroom is common and not unusual. Some beaches only have unisex bathroom.

Us nudist/naturist have had no problem with it.

So they are claiming essentially that gender is a "social construction" and has nothing to do with the physical bodies whe have. I'd like to see the "science" behind this one. Funny how schools raise a big howling mess about the merest trace of traditional religion in the classroom under the guise of science, but seem strangely resistant to biological truths when it comes to these matters.

Perhaps the need to go to the bathroom itself is a "social construction." They should get rid of all bathrooms, then. Problem solved.

I think that the organizers/ations that are pushing to allow opposite genders use restrooms based on self-identity are not thinking through the entire issue. It seems they are pushing for a quick fix solution without considering the emotional/psychological issues that will come with this (for both groups). Consider that a child who is having an identity confusion (for lack better term) who will not only have to face self, but will have to face the judgments of peers... neither group is going to let something like this pass easily and the child in question, will be facing some incredible pressure/harassment/teasing/isolation... The psychological issues will be compounded, not mitigated. Poor solution, very poor. Unisex restrooms are far more appropriate (IMO).

Penis = boy

Vulva = girl.

This is plain BS

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