Why Ad Blocking is devastating to the sites you love. (article), page 2
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reply posted on 7-3-2010 @ 11:39 AM by gYvMessanger
reply to post by seagull



Excuse me I believe you called me a liar, not the other way around, I was merely pointing out that I was not. Im sure there are plenty of regular users who never suffer a problem, it will depend on various factors including you geoip location and what times of day you use the site.

I know as well the site admin have gone out of their way to try and resolve the problem, but perhaps if they didnt stick quite so many over the top intrusive adds on the site in the first place the problem would never have come up.


reply posted on 7-3-2010 @ 11:40 AM by tothetenthpower
Originally posted by Kr0n0s
reply to
post by tothetenthpower



If doing whats necessary to prevent something malicious from ever reaching you PC is lazy, then the same could be said for the people running Mcafee or any other program that intercepts a virus before it has a chance to execute.

And i guess that configuring my router to filter out certain scripts is being lazy too?
by the way its called being proactive, not lazy.
Didnt your grandma every tell you that "an ounce of preventions is worth a pound of cure?"


Prevention is one thing, but removing the revenue from your favorite websites because one or two adds a year give you some sort of minor problem, then it is lazy.

I mean seriously, the only way you know if something is trying to get in, is because your software that is BUILT to prevent such things from getting in tells you, so it's already dealt with at that level. What's the point of blocking the adds other than the visual aspect?

~Keeper


reply posted on 7-3-2010 @ 12:23 PM by Springer
We have two members openly declaring they are violating our Terms And Conditions of use by employing ad blockers and essentially free-loading off their fellow members.

They are now banned for violating the TAC.

The only way this site (and thousands more like it) can stay up and functioning is by generating revenue from advertising. To safeguard our members and visitors we go the extra mile and pay additional money every month for a contract company to scan each and every ad that gets presented here for any malware.

In the past (before we hired this service) there have been three, that's right only three, confirmed ads that slipped through the cracks and caused some problems. Once we had useful data to track them down with we eliminated them and fired one of the ad networks that were serving them.

The vast majority of the complaints were actually viruses that were acquired via email or "nasty sites" that laid low until the user logged onto one of their favorite/bookmarked sites (ATS in this case) to make it appear the malware came from the site.

The most recent bout of genuinely bad ads that slipped through was a huge campaign that affected whole networks of sites big and small. The dreaded ".pdf".

It was carefully crafted to be undetectable and because of that craftiness it really didn't do anything other than drive the infected a little mad. It couldn't actually harm your hardware it could only make your software wonky.

We immediately took action once we actually KNEW (finally) what we were looking for.

The bottom line is this, if you use this site and you enjoy this site, allow the ads. If you don't, you are cheating what you like out of its ability to survive.

We know it's the advertising network's responsibility to make sure the ads they serve are clean, we also know they aren't very good at it in some cases. That's why we signed on with Gorilla Nation and are working diligently to get the majority of our ads from direct sales and served by our trusted partners rather than the huge networks.

Nothing is perfect and as long as the scammers and spammers can make money off pushing malware we will have to fight the good fight. Rest assured we will.

Springer...



reply posted on 7-3-2010 @ 12:39 PM by tothetenthpower
reply to post by m0r1arty



If your dumb enough to break the rules, or pretend to, out some weird misplaced sense of authority, then you deserve to get banned.

Period.

~Keeper


reply posted on 7-3-2010 @ 12:41 PM by m0r1arty
reply to post by tothetenthpower



Again, I'm behind that, just can't we extend it to all the others that claim nonsense too?

Just saying since proof is proof and people are innocent until proven guilty (well at least in a proper democracy).

-m0r


reply posted on 7-3-2010 @ 12:43 PM by Springer
reply to post by Copernicus



Did you read the rest (huge majority) of my post?

Springer...



reply posted on 7-3-2010 @ 12:44 PM by SkepticOverlord
reply to post by bluemooone2



Logged-in members don't receive pop-ups, and guests will get no more than two in a 24 hour period.

But generally, we're not concerned about pop-blocking.


reply posted on 7-3-2010 @ 12:45 PM by tothetenthpower
reply to post by bluemooone2



No, addblock is an add on, the pop up blocker is not against the T&C as far as I am concerned.

~Keeper


reply posted on 7-3-2010 @ 12:47 PM by Copernicus
Originally posted by Springer
reply to
post by Copernicus



Did you read the rest (huge majority) of my post?

Springer...


Yes I did, and I knew you would say that.

But this thread will soon be gone and forgotten. If you instead explain why ads need to be allowed by people instead of banning them in the future, you will get much better results from this community. People will feel encouraged to help the site get revenue instead of feeling worried they might say something about Adblock that gets them banned.

Sites are easily whitelisted in Adblock. People just need to understand why they should do it for the sites they like. Threatening to ban people will make them keep the adblock and just dont tell you about it. I think you know thats true.

Send out a mail every month and explain why ads are needed. You may be surprised at the number of people who will start to accept the ads, increasing your revenues in the future. Or maybe Im naive. But its worth a shot.


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