Dr. Steven Jones & Dr. Judy Wood

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posted on Mar, 7 2010 @ 01:20 AM
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Dear Fellow 9/11 Truth Supporter,

My name is Abraham Hafiz Rodriguez, and I am a medical student. Throughout my rigorous undergraduate science and medical science coursework, I have had the privilege of receiving extensive training in the process of scientific analysis and evidence-based thinking.

I am writing to you today not only as a medical student, but also as a concerned American citizen, to ask for your help with something very important.

Have you heard of Dr. Judy Wood? Did you know she has been researching 9/11 since 2001 and has already filed several law suits against NIST and Congress demanding a new investigation and requesting that NIST’s false data gets reexamined? Surprisingly, Dr. Steven Jones has not supported Dr. Wood’s legal attempts to push for 9/11 Truth. Dr. Judy Wood has received many threats due to the research she has done and evidence she has gathered, and 2 of her friends that were involved in Cold Fusion / Free Energy research were murdered. In contrast, Dr. Steven Jones has not filed any such law suits, nor has he filed his nano-thermite findings with Congress or NIST.

I. Dr. Judy Wood has already filed several legal cases against NIST and many suspected military / defense / weapons organizations in 2007, including Data Quality Analysis (DQA), Request For Correction (RFC), and Qui Tam (whistle-blower) cases. She is actively pursuing 9/11 Truth with her lawyer, despite the lack of support she has received from Dr. Jones and his followers. One of the many reasons I believe that Dr. Jones may be misleading the 9/11 Truth Movement is because Dr. Jones has not filed his nano-thermite findings with NIST or with Congress, when he should have done so long ago if he truly wished to further the 9/11 Truth Movement. The many legal documents Dr. Judy Wood has filed in her pursuit of 9/11 Truth can be observed here:

1. www.drjudywood.com...
2. www.drjudywood.com...

II. Dr. Judy Wood was once a highly involved member of Dr. Jones’s group, Scholars for 9/11 Truth, but Dr. Jones suddenly expelled her from the group a while ago, simply because he disagreed with her conclusion that some form of Directed Energy Weapon was used to demolish the World Trade Center buildings. Dr. Wood has gathered overwhelming evidence suggesting that a Directed Energy Weapon of some kind was used to vaporize (‘dustify’) the primary steel and concrete portions of the buildings into dust, while leaving paper, aluminum, and many other materials completely unharmed. She has collected an overwhelming amount of photographic evidence which led to this conclusion, yet Dr. Jones disagrees with her so strongly that he decided to ban her from the group.

III. It is important to consider the fact that Dr. Wood has actively been taking legal steps and scientific steps to pursue 9/11 Truth, yet Dr. Jones has banned her from his Scholars for 9/11 Truth group and has not supported her costly legal efforts to bring about a new 9/11 investigation. They both should be working together, but instead, Dr. Jones speaks negatively of Dr. Wood because he disagrees with her conclusions, even though her conclusions are strongly supported by evidence.

IV. After reviewing this evidence, it seems very possible to me that Dr. Steven Jones is pushing the nano-thermite theory to mislead the 9/11 Truth Movement down a false path to prevent us from finding out the true criminals behind 9/11, and the true cause of 9/11, which is related to Cold Fusion, Free Energy, and Directed Energy Weapons. Yes, the nano-thermite theory does account for some of the evidence, but it most certainly does not account for all of it.

"The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves." - Vladimir Lenin


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posted on Mar, 7 2010 @ 01:20 AM
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VI. Dr. Judy Wood received her B.S. (Civil Engineering, 1981) (Structural Engineering), M.S. (Engineering Mechanics (Applied Physics), 1983), and Ph.D. (Materials Engineering Science, 1992) from the Department of Engineering Science and Mechanics at Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University in Blacksburg, Virginia. Her dissertation involved the development of an experimental method to measure thermal stresses in bi-material joints. She has taught courses including: Experimental Stress Analysis, Engineering Mechanics, Mechanics of Materials (Strength of Materials), Strength of Materials Testing.

1. Dr. Judy Wood, Ph.D - 'The New Hiroshima' Presentation (Part 1): www.youtube.com...
2. Dr. Judy Wood, The Hutchinson Effect, & Focused Electromagnetic Energy (Who Will You Tell?): www.youtube.com...
3. Dr. Judy Wood’s website: www.drjudywood.com...

VII. Please review the following evidence regarding Dr. Steven Jones, so that you can become familiar with all of the evidence that has led myself, and many others, to conclude that Dr. Steven Jones is purposely misleading the 9/11 Truth Movement. First he interfered with the Cold Fusion / Free Energy movement, and now it seems he is interfering with the 9/11 Truth Movement. Please review these links thoroughly, and with an open-mind, before drawing any conclusions:

1. ‘Hoax exposes incompetence or worse at a Bentham Open Access journal’: www.earlham.edu...

2. ‘Bentham Open editor-in-chief resigns after fake paper is accepted for publication’: www.earlham.edu...

3. ‘A Peer-review of Dr. Jones’s Research’: nomoregames.net...

4. ‘The Scientific Method Applied to the Thermite Hypothesis’: drjudywood.com...

5. ‘Steven Jones' Contributions to Science, Humanity and the Planet’: www.drjudywood.com...

6. ‘WTC Molten Metal: Fact or Fiction?’ www.checktheevidence.co.uk...

7. ‘Thermite and Glowing Liquid Aluminum’ drjudywood.com...

8. ‘Steven Jones, Cold Fusion, & Free Energy’: drjudywood.com...

9. ‘Steven Jones and the WTC “Spire” video’ (2min 35sec): www.youtube.com...

10. ‘No Thermite Used on 9/11’ by Andrew Johnson: 911thermitefree.blogspot.com...

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posted on Mar, 7 2010 @ 01:21 AM
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VIII. Here are some important questions to ask ourselves when comparing the conclusions of Dr. Steve Jones versus Dr. Judy Wood:

• How come steel and concrete were pulverized, but paper and aluminum were unharmed? Nano-thermite and heat do not selectively pulverize certain materials.
• How come countless vehicles located several blocks away from ground zero, out of the reach of falling building debris, experienced metal warping and electricity-like burns and holes during the attacks, even though they were not exposed to thermite?
• How come countless vehicles located several blocks away from ground zero, out of the reach of building debris, were flipped upside down or on their side?
• If thermite alone caused the destruction of the buildings, how come there are many reports of power outages and electrical failures in the areas surrounding ground zero during the attacks?
• If thermite alone caused the destruction of the buildings, where is all the molten steel? Thousands of pictures, yet not a single one shows large quantities of molten steel?
• If thermite alone caused the destruction of the buildings, how come the resulting steel and concrete dust clouds were not hot enough to burn the people it coated nor to set adjacent buildings on fire?
• If thermite alone caused the ‘collapses’, how come there was significant magnetosphere readings in Alaska at the very same time of the 9/11 attacks?
• Why was the Alaskan magnetosphere normal until immediately before and during the 9/11 attacks, when there was suddenly a huge surge in electromagnetic activity?
• If thermite alone caused the destruction of the buildings, how come several cars were flipped upside down as a result of the attacks?
• How come Dr. Wood has already filed several legal cases against suspected 9/11-involved defense and weapons companies and NIST, yet Dr. Jones has not?
• How come Dr. Wood has already been taking legal steps towards demanding a new 9/11 investigation, yet Dr. Jones does not support her legal efforts?
• How come Dr. Jones has not officially filed or shared his nano-thermite evidence with Congress, NIST, or any official governmental body? Why the delay?
• Why is Dr. Jones just now claiming to be “pursuing a new 9/11 investigation” when Dr. Judy Wood has already filed many legal cases to pursue such an investigation, one which made it to the Supreme Court?
• Why isn’t Dr. Jones and his affiliates supporting Dr. Judy Wood’s legal efforts to pursue 9/11 Truth, regardless of whether or not they agree on a theory?
• Why did Dr. Jones ban Dr. Wood from his ‘Scholars for 9/11 Truth’ group just because they had different conclusions about what destroyed the towers?
• Shouldn’t we all be supporting the 9/11 investigation that Dr. Judy Wood has already demanded with her legal cases, even if we do not agree with her conclusions?
• Why was I removed from the Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth petition simply for asking Richard Gage to examine the research of Dr. Judy Wood?
• I have donated over $100 to AE911Truth, so why was I silently removed from the petition simply for bringing up Dr. Judy Wood to Richard Gage?


IX. Either Dr. Steven Jones is lying, or Dr. Judy Wood is lying. One of them is misleading the 9/11 Truth Movement, and the evidence points to Dr. Steven Jones. After thoroughly researching both of their stories and all of the evidence presented by both parties, I honestly believe that it is most likely Dr. Jones that is lying, and that he is using his fame and credentials to mislead the 9/11 Truth Movement in the wrong direction to prevent us from supporting Dr. Judy Wood’s legal actions and taking legal action of our own, to ultimately prevent us from finding out the true cause of 9/11 and the true criminals responsible for the attacks.

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posted on Mar, 7 2010 @ 01:23 AM
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XI. Lastly, I should let you know that I recently messaged Richard Gage and AE911Truth to ask him to contact Dr. Judy Wood, and as a result, I have been removed from the Petition Signers list on AE911Truth.org, despite the fact that I have donated over $100 dollars to Richard Gage and his organization over the past several months. As of the morning of March 4th, my name was removed from the AE911Truth petition, so it appears that I have been removed from the petition simply for asking about Dr. Judy Wood. This is very concerning, because I have not done anything wrong by asking Richard Gage to talk to Dr. Judy Wood and consider her research, yet AE911Truth.org has removed me from their petition simply for asking about her once in a private email. In addition, Richard Gage has never replied to any of my emails over the past several months, not even one of them, but Dr. Judy Wood has responded to several of my emails in just the last week. Oddly enough, Dr. Wood predicted that Richard Gage and Dr. Jones would ‘blacklist’ me for mentioning her, and she was right.

I strongly support the 9/11 Truth Movement as a whole and I definitely think we all need to work together to share ideas and information, so I truly hope that you will consider collaborating with Dr. Judy Wood in addition to Dr. Steven Jones, so we can all work together to bring about real 9/11 truth and justice. Even if Dr. Wood’s conclusions do not resonate with you, we are all still pursuing truth and justice regarding 9/11, and therefore we need to work together. It is very concerning to me that Dr. Jones has chosen to outcast Dr. Wood simply because he does not agree with her conclusions, when he should be supporting her many legal cases. If Dr. Jones is indeed misleading the 9/11 Truth Movement, he needs to be exposed so that this movement can continue to make progress and move forward.

Please let me know how what you think about all this.

Thank you for your time, consideration, and help,

-Abe

Abraham Hafiz Rodriguez
M1 Medical Student
B.S. Biology / Neurobiology

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posted on Mar, 7 2010 @ 01:49 AM
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Nice job man, I have nothing to contribute because following 9/11 truthers is not my cup of tea, but a nice job nonetheless with lots of relevant sources.



posted on Mar, 7 2010 @ 02:00 AM
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This was a very interesting post to read until I came to this paragraph ......................

" II. Dr. Judy Wood was once a highly involved member of Dr. Jones’s group, Scholars for 9/11 Truth, but Dr. Jones suddenly expelled her from the group a while ago, simply because he disagreed with her conclusion that some form of Directed Energy Weapon was used to demolish the World Trade Center buildings. Dr. Wood has gathered overwhelming evidence suggesting that a Directed Energy Weapon of some kind was used to vaporize (‘dustify’) the primary steel and concrete portions of the buildings into dust, while leaving paper, aluminum, and many other materials completely unharmed. She has collected an overwhelming amount of photographic evidence which led to this conclusion, yet Dr. Jones disagrees with her so strongly that he decided to ban her from the group. "


Then I thought to myself that this just had to be an unsubstanciated claim by Dr. Wood if her alledged " Overwhelming Evidence " was not given to those who could make a case for it in public . Why was that not the case ?



posted on Mar, 7 2010 @ 02:01 AM
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Nice job on your thread,
I think you have answered all your own questions in your own research.
I cannot speak for other Truthers on here, but I do not support Judy Woods or her research and neither does professor Steven Jones.

As for Jones report, why would he list it with NIST?
As far as listing it with congress perhaps, they will not let him; maybe his work is the truth.

Cheers.



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posted on Mar, 7 2010 @ 02:24 AM
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Thanks for the support!

As for Dr. Jones...

one would hope Dr. Jones would file his data with NIST and with Congress to officially make his scientific findings heard...

Why wouldn't he file them with NIST and with Congress? Why hasn't he?

Why has he not yet legally filed documents for a new 9/11 investigation, but Dr. Judy Wood has?

Why has Dr. Judy Wood taken legal steps to find out the truth about 9/11, but Dr. Jones has not? Why does Dr. Jones not support her legal efforts?

Thanks for commenting and for expressing your honest opinions.

Even though we do not agree, I respect your opinions, and am glad that you shared them.

Cheers back at ya'll,

-Abe


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posted on Mar, 7 2010 @ 02:32 AM
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Originally posted by Zanti Misfit
Then I thought to myself that this just had to be an unsubstanciated claim by Dr. Wood if her alledged " Overwhelming Evidence " was not given to those who could make a case for it in public . Why was that not the case ?


Dr. Judy Wood already has taken her conclusions and evidence to the public!

I. Dr. Judy Wood has already filed several legal cases against NIST and many suspected military / defense / weapons organizations in 2007, including Data Quality Analysis (DQA), Request For Correction (RFC), and Qui Tam (whistle-blower) cases. She is actively pursuing 9/11 Truth with her lawyer, despite the lack of support she has received from Dr. Jones and his followers. One of the many reasons I believe that Dr. Jones may be misleading the 9/11 Truth Movement is because Dr. Jones has not filed his nano-thermite findings with NIST or with Congress, when he should have done so long ago if he truly wished to further the 9/11 Truth Movement. The many legal documents Dr. Judy Wood has filed in her pursuit of 9/11 Truth can be observed here:

1. www.drjudywood.com...
2. www.drjudywood.com...



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posted on Mar, 7 2010 @ 02:47 AM
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" Directed Energy Weapon was used to demolish the World Trade Center buildings. "

Can you possibly shed a little more light on this quote from your previous post ? Are you informed enought about Dr. Woods allegations here to maybe elaborate a bit further as to how this " Directed Energy Weapon " could have been used to demolish all the effected WTC Buildings ? Being a laymen in this field , I could use a little Enlightment here .



posted on Mar, 7 2010 @ 03:32 AM
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Originally posted by Zanti Misfit
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" Directed Energy Weapon was used to demolish the World Trade Center buildings. "

Can you possibly shed a little more light on this quote from your previous post ? Are you informed enought about Dr. Woods allegations here to maybe elaborate a bit further as to how this " Directed Energy Weapon " could have been used to demolish all the effected WTC Buildings ? Being a laymen in this field , I could use a little Enlightment here .


Sure thing, thanks for asking.

Check out these links:

Anomalies at Ground Zero compared to the Hutchinson Effect: www.drjudywood.com...

Directed Energy Weapons: Do they exist? www.drjudywood.com...

hope this info helps!

-Abe



posted on Mar, 7 2010 @ 03:37 AM
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Good work on your posts. I have also looked into some of Judy Woods theories, although not too extensively. I have found it strange the way she is ridiculed by others, and in particular Steven Jones. I think some people have way too much faith in him being a strong supporter of truly finding out what happened that day.

Also, one thing that I have pondered, is the proposed advanced nuclear device theory. For all those interested, this does not involve a "traditional" nuclear device. That technology is rather old now, and is likely to have advanced considerably. Particularly by people working in the field of "cold fusion". People such as... Steven Jones


Not trying to say this is fact, but that it deserves some attention at the very least. I do not think Jones is the pillar of truth some make him out to be. He should be held to the same scrutiny as everyone else. And when he is, I believe his efforts look less convincing. Especially when compared to Wood and her colleagues, who are actively trying to encourage a proper investigation into the attacks. Which is what we want, isn't it?

Although Woods can't prove her theories without doubt, they can not be completely dismissed without consideration either. I mean, consider what was happening during the manhattan project. These were secret tests being performed without public knowledge. If someone outside of the scientific testing team proposed that there were these "exotic" weopons which were significantly different to conventional weapons, they would not have had the significant information needed to prove without doubt that they existed. People may have labelled this person crazy and foolish.

But that doesn't mean that those weopons didn't exist, does it?



posted on Mar, 7 2010 @ 03:40 AM
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THANK YOU. So many great points in your post! Way to think for yourself dude, not blindly dismissing theories, considering all possibilities, keeping an open-mind, thinking for yourself, researching for yourself...

way to go!

it is important that we consider Dr. Jones AND Dr. Wood's theories, so thank you for doing so!

-Abe

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posted on Mar, 7 2010 @ 03:44 AM
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look guys, please just consider what i have to say.

Consider this quote:

"The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves." - Vladimir Lenin

we must keep an OPEN MIND about things. we cannot blindly reject things just because they don't seem true.

I was blindly accepting the nano-thermite theory without questioning it at all, until a friend called me out on it.

please just consider ALL possibilities. do not rule out anything unless evidence shows it to be impossible.

I have to get studying for midterms, so I have to run. I will check back here later or tomorrow.

Good night everyone, talk to you later. I will be back.

-Abe



posted on Mar, 7 2010 @ 04:30 AM
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So this is strong evidence that HAARP WAS responsible for the collapse after all? That is an ominous development. I just wonder what they're going to target with it next, or have they already been using it?



posted on Mar, 7 2010 @ 06:53 AM
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Originally posted by warpcrafter
So this is strong evidence that HAARP WAS responsible for the collapse after all? That is an ominous development. I just wonder what they're going to target with it next, or have they already been using it?



Only some type of directed energy weapon could account for ALL the anomalies observed at ground zero, such as flipped cars, oddly bent steel, electrical-like burns on vehicles, steel and concrete pulverized while aluminum and paper were selectively unharmed...

... but whether or not it was HAARP is unsure, because little is known about the facility. it is unclear if HAARP could be tuned in a way that the energy could bring about the molecular dissociation of the steel and concrete. it is possible, but its not likely in my opinion.



posted on Mar, 7 2010 @ 06:53 AM
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Originally posted by warpcrafter
So this is strong evidence that HAARP WAS responsible for the collapse after all? That is an ominous development. I just wonder what they're going to target with it next, or have they already been using it?



Only some type of directed energy weapon could account for ALL the anomalies observed at ground zero, such as flipped cars, oddly bent steel, electrical-like burns on vehicles, steel and concrete pulverized while aluminum and paper were selectively unharmed...

... but whether or not it was HAARP is unsure, because little is known about the facility. it is unclear if HAARP could be tuned in a way that the energy could bring about the molecular dissociation of the steel and concrete. it is possible, but its not likely in my opinion.



posted on Mar, 7 2010 @ 07:15 PM
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I see that they have removed my other post


Oh wells, I will take the time to get to know more of you first so you see that I am a genuine person, then I will repost it.

Hope everyone is having a relaxing Sunday,

-Abe



posted on Mar, 8 2010 @ 02:40 AM
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What Dr. Judy Wood has concluded regarding some kind of new weapon being used actually makes sense to me. Such an operation such as 911 was a big planning effort and the part that included the new weapons use was no doubt used because no one would be able to easily identify that such a weapon had been used.

The fact that there exists some anomalies of non burned paper, powdered steel and cars that were affected by something yet unexplained could be clues that if properly and scientifically tested could lead to something that Dr. Steven Jones already knows exists and which he does not want to be truly investigated in any real scientific manner.

Something about her work on that secret weapon tells me she has something that they fear and if that is the case, Dr. Judy Wood may not actually know just what piece of the clue someone is trying to prevent her from exploring further.



posted on Mar, 8 2010 @ 03:17 AM
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Judy is a disinfo agent trying to lead people on the wrong path.

Some of the photos on her page were proven to be doctored, showing her with Hutchison. (her shadow was missing). She deleted the pictures.

Her theories are garbage, and when one of her students found out that she was intentionally misleading the movement, he was shot in the face by 2 men after they stole his mom's purse.

Look into Judy's background. She is a shill.





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