Survival Kit

Ok guys help me out here. I just put together a survival kit and want to know what you think. Some of this stuff has weird names as it came from my wife and I's field gear from our time as Army Medics.

Water purification system w/replacement filters
Iodine tablets
2 bdu's warm weather
2 bdu's cold weather
4 pairs of boots
8 pairs of socks
2 stocking caps
Various knives ( I collect them)
2 regular flashlights
2 small mag lights
1 million candle power spotlight
24 pack each of aaa, aa, c, and d batteries
Flint starter
Waterproof matches
cast iron cookset
fingernail clippers
2 army issue shelter halves
2 sleeping bags
2 small backpacks
My army issue medical kit w/minor surgical set
6 liters of iv fluid
duct tape
500 feet of 550 survival cord
crank rechargeable radio
knife sharpening stone
book of edible plants
5 gallons of water
case of MRE's
2 2way radios
compass

Allright ladies and gentleman, thats what I have so far all stored in 2 green issue duffels, questions? Comments? Suggestions? lets make this right and save my life!!






















[Edited on 31-5-2004 by Tripnastic]

[Edited on 31-5-2004 by Tripnastic]

[Edited on 31-5-2004 by Tripnastic]

As ex-medics you have a head start on certain emergency scenarios, but all I see is the IV fluids. Suppose that the real crisis, or perhaps the first one in a series, involves a virus with an uncomfortably high mortality rate like SARS. Keeping away from people would be a primary concern, but what would you want to protect yourself from exposure when you couldn't avoid contact with others?

Add a condom to that...you can use it to collect water. It was on JAG and the actually do that.

Originally posted by Strider
As ex-medics you have a head start on certain emergency scenarios, but all I see is the IV fluids. Suppose that the real crisis, or perhaps the first one in a series, involves a virus with an uncomfortably high mortality rate like SARS. Keeping away from people would be a primary concern, but what would you want to protect yourself from exposure when you couldn't avoid contact with others?

My Army issue medical kit that I listed has 4 full body substance isolation suits with masks, gowns, boot covers, eye protection and gloves. Also good thinking on the condoms, not only collecting water but a waterproof container for other things. I should also add ziplock bags and saran wrap for water collection. Good ideas people lets keep em' coming!!

[Edited on 31-5-2004 by Tripnastic]

Add a reliable handgun and rifle/shotgun to that list, and ammunition for it.

wait a minute..

4 BDUs...for each of you? or warm and cold set for each of you?

four pair of boots? i guess two for each of you?

no mess kit? for shame!

now i shoulda asked this but i didnt so i'm asking now. how do you plan on lugging all of this around??? i mean worst comes to worst you might be in a situation where you have to carry it all with you.

i try to think light, what can i carry and not give me back problems in the long term? if i can wear it rather than carry it i will but if you have water purifiers i see no need to lug around 5 gallons of water...thats a lot of extra weight and its taking up space.

i almost laughed at the finger nail clippers but they're small so it wouldnt hurt.

instead of a cast iron cook set why not go light and carry a simple cook set? again, weight and space are two huge issues and a make shift spit can be made for any game you hunt. your back will thank you for not carrying around a dutch oven.

how about a jacket or parka? you know...for when it gets cold. sometimes BDUs alone dont cut it.

along with your fire starter section i'd add disposible lighters. they're light weight small and they can be used several hundred times each. zippos are nice but you gotta refill em...

how about some candles? you know small candles, like tea light candles or small votive candles. just a couple. or not.

an axe, machete and/or hatchet. great for getting through dense bush, splitting logs, spliting skulls, chopping down trees...and a folding saw wouldnt hurt. now if you wouldnt mind building a dwelling one day a couple saws would be nice, rip saw and a fine tooth saw. they're thin and light.

6 liters of IV fluid? plan on starting a hospital?

i'd have a couple sharpening stones...for each of you. lose A stone and you're screwed. lose a stone out of 4 and you're ok. they also wear down and even break through accidents. same with compasses.

i would suggest a pair of binoculars or an equivalant thereof. helps to see as far ahead as possible.

i'd double the ammount of cord from 500 to 1000 feet. you'd be amazed how many uses you'll find for that stuff.

how about some gloves? like maybe a couple pair of thin leather gloves like some mechanix gloves and maybe a heavier pair or two for winter use.

a bandana...or five...great for taking the sweat off your brow or for tourniquets

how about something to make a map or two with? helps to have something to record important information.

a blanket or two wouldnt hurt. wool ones.

a tarp or two wouldnt hurt also.

how about when it rains? a poncho would be really nice then wouldnt it?

i'd add some flares.

If you don't have to carry everything on your back I would include:
1. Reliable high power rifle with cleaning kit, scope, spare mag., 1000 rounds.
2. Machete
3. Felling axe
4. Bolt cutters
5. Tent/shelter/bivy sack
6. E-tool at the least, pick and shovel better
7. I would replace your book of edible plants with the U.S. Army Manual FM 21-76

I'll think of more !

Sorry, The P.M. had posted while I was still thinking/writing. Don't want to be redundant.

How 'bout a hand-held GPS.
Some Det-Cord
Can't have enough rope, Idealy not all of the thin strong parachute-cord variety. Some 11 or 14mm climbing rope would be nice and useful.
Small light-weight multi-fuel stove
Therma-rest pads or equivilent
Flat-bastard file for sharpening axe/saws etc.

[Edited on 31-5-2004 by scottsquared]

At least some minimalist fishing gear!

wait a minute..

4 BDUs...for each of you? or warm and cold set for each of you?

WARM AND COLD SET FOR EACH

four pair of boots? i guess two for each of you?
AGAIN, WARM AND COLD SET FOR EACH

no mess kit? for shame!

PLASTIC UTENSILS IN MRE'S

now i shoulda asked this but i didnt so i'm asking now. how do you plan on lugging all of this around??? i mean worst comes to worst you might be in a situation where you have to carry it all with you.

MATERIALS ARE DIVIDED EVENLY BETWEEN TWO GREEN DUFFEL BAGS. MY WIFE AND I EACH HAD TO CARRY THESE BAGS LOADED WITH 80 POUNDS OF AMMUNITION ON A 20 MILER IN FORT LEANORDWOOD.

i try to think light, what can i carry and not give me back problems in the long term? if i can wear it rather than carry it i will but if you have water purifiers i see no need to lug around 5 gallons of water...thats a lot of extra weight and its taking up space.

THE 5 GALLONS IS JUST IN CASE WATER IS IN DIRE NEED, BUT NO SOURCE IS AVAILABLE YET.

i almost laughed at the finger nail clippers but they're small so it wouldnt hurt.

INGROWN TOENAILS SUCK

instead of a cast iron cook set why not go light and carry a simple cook set? again, weight and space are two huge issues and a make shift spit can be made for any game you hunt. your back will thank you for not carrying around a dutch oven.

THE CAST IRON SET IS A POT, FLAT SHEET AND REGULAR PAN. MY STOMACH WILL THANK ME FOR NOT CHEAPING OUT A KIT THAT WILL WARP AFTER 2 WEEKS

how about a jacket or parka? you know...for when it gets cold. sometimes BDUs alone dont cut it.

COATS ARE INCLUDED WITH COLD WEATHER BDU'S, AS ARE POLYPROPELENE LINERS.

along with your fire starter section i'd add disposible lighters. they're light weight small and they can be used several hundred times each. zippos are nice but you gotta refill em...

GOOD IDEA

how about some candles? you know small candles, like tea light candles or small votive candles. just a couple. or not.

WHY?

an axe, machete and/or hatchet. great for getting through dense bush, splitting logs, spliting skulls, chopping down trees...and a folding saw wouldnt hurt. now if you wouldnt mind building a dwelling one day a couple saws would be nice, rip saw and a fine tooth saw. they're thin and light.

CHECK

6 liters of IV fluid? plan on starting a hospital?

I USED THAT MANY ON ONE SOLDIER IN 2 HOURS AFTER AN ACCIDENT IN GUATEMALA. THEY CAN ALSO BE USED AS DRINKING WATER IN AN EMERGENCY, BUT TASTE LIKE CRAP.

i'd have a couple sharpening stones...for each of you. lose A stone and you're screwed. lose a stone out of 4 and you're ok. they also wear down and even break through accidents. same with compasses.

CHECK

i would suggest a pair of binoculars or an equivalant thereof. helps to see as far ahead as possible.

FORGOT TO PUT THIS ON LIST, BUT IT WAS ALREADY IN THERE.

i'd double the ammount of cord from 500 to 1000 feet. you'd be amazed how many uses you'll find for that stuff.

CHECK

how about some gloves? like maybe a couple pair of thin leather gloves like some mechanix gloves and maybe a heavier pair or two for winter use.

THE COLD WEATHER BDU'S COME WITH WOOL GLOVES WITH LEATHER OUTER SHELLS.

a bandana...or five...great for taking the sweat off your brow or for tourniquets

CHECK

how about something to make a map or two with?

CHECK


a blanket or two wouldnt hurt. wool ones.

OTHER THAN THE SLEEPING BAGS? CHECK

a tarp or two wouldnt hurt also.

CHECK

how about when it rains? a poncho would be really nice then wouldnt it?

ALREADY IN THERE

i'd add some flares.
MAYBE

sorry about the caps, wanted to be able to tell the difference between question and answers. thanks for the help everyone!

[Edited on 31-5-2004 by Tripnastic]

[Edited on 31-5-2004 by Tripnastic]

Is the book, Field Guide to Edible Wildplants?
I would study survival techniques at the library or buy a book.
flares
learn how to prepare wildgame.
fishing hooks lines and sinkers
animal snare
www.wilderness-survival.net... go to 3

I have fm 21-76, but also Tom Brown's Guide to Wild Edible and Medicinal Plants. The fishing gear is included with 550 cord. The cord has smaller inner fibers disigned to be pulled out and used for fishing lines or to make nets. The hammock in my backyard is made from 550 cord also, made during a boring stay at fort sill, ok. I didn't include firearms or flares because of the possibility for accident.

what is this for anyways, like a sudden terror attack or something?

fresnel lens, foldable shovel (so you can store stuff under ground), small mirror for a signal.

Dude, you forgot Cigarettes, booze and porn. I mean come on!

LOL I don't smoke or drink and if it got that bad, what woman would not want a person who is well prepaired?

Thats a lot of # to carry.

Bow/Arrow
Knives
Hatchet
Canteen
Rope
Sleeping Bag

Mother earth provides.

However if you worry NWO coming after you, fear not if you are a target you will die most certainly, no matter where you try to escape. You are trapped on this remote planet.

I mean really, how many of you Hike around actively? You really thingk you can carry all this crap or will you drive your SUVs with your inviso supply of gasoline?
I mean you could set up camp but if something horrible is happening I would prefer the mobility.

I'd rather take a sushi chef with me, hell just catch fish. If you had a pole and treble hooks you dont need bait, you can hook the fish in the side by yanking on it if worse came to worse.

[Edited on 1-6-2004 by Lysergic]

1 ton of spam

1 ton of water

1 ton of jack daniels

1 ton of condoms

1 ton of instant pudding

several girlfriends with ar14's and a ton of ammo

1 ton of toilet paper

pizza

here's some sites for those interested in getting some gear for to make their own emergency/survival kit...

www.armygear.net...

www.imsplus.com...

www.colemans.com...

www.majorsurplusnsurvival.com...


i was looking for A.L.I.C.E. packs and i found a ton of miltary surplus sites.

Originally posted by Lysergic
Thats a lot of # to carry.

Bow/Arrow
Knives
Hatchet
Canteen
Rope
Sleeping Bag

Mother earth provides.

However if you worry NWO coming after you, fear not if you are a target you will die most certainly, no matter where you try to escape. You are trapped on this remote planet.

I mean really, how many of you Hike around actively? You really thingk you can carry all this crap or will you drive your SUVs with your inviso supply of gasoline?
I mean you could set up camp but if something horrible is happening I would prefer the mobility.

I'd rather take a sushi chef with me, hell just catch fish. If you had a pole and treble hooks you dont need bait, you can hook the fish in the side by yanking on it if worse came to worse.

[Edited on 1-6-2004 by Lysergic]

My wife and I are both coming off of active duty, and don't hike, we ruck march, so as far as this being a lot to carry, for 2 people, who are used to it, it's not. The purpose of this would be any reason that I would have to leave home for an extended period of time. Extended being the key. If I thought I was going to be gone for a few days, much, much less. This is an extended period of time i'm thinking about. As you'll notice much of my supplies are non-disposable, for a reason.