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Topic started on 6-3-2010 @ 07:25 PM by 911stinks

Top home-school texts dismiss Darwin, evolution

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Christian-based materials dominate a growing home-school education market that encompasses more than 1.5 million students in the U.S. And for most home-school parents, a Bible-based version of the Earth's creation is exactly what they want. Federal statistics from 2007 show 83 percent of home-schooling parents want to give their children "religious or moral instruction."

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reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 07:25 PM by 911stinks

Personally, I feel the child should know both, to be able to make their own decision. The study of the differences between the two would probably make an interesting subject on it's own.

The bible, to me, is a fascinating piece of history, and is full of good instruction. Teaching young ones about the differences between creationism and evolution gives the child a chance to see that there really are two completely trains of thought on how we came about.

I think good, God respecting parents are fed up with the holes in evolution, and the constant changing of science to fit with inconvenient truths, and the forcing of the religion (evolutionism) down our childrens throats.

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reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 07:27 PM by hippomchippo

Originally posted by 911stinks

Personally, I feel the child should know both, to be able to make their own decision. The study of the differences between the two would probably make an interesting subject on it's own.

The bible, to me, is a fascinating piece of history, and is full of good instruction. Teaching young ones about the differences between creationism and evolution gives the child a chance to see that there really are two completely trains of thought on how we came about.

I think good, God respecting parents are fed up with the holes in evolution, and the constant changing of science to fit with inconvenient truths, and the forcing of the religion (evolutionism) down our childrens throats.

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Teaching the bible in a science class will always be wrong, sure they can learn about the bible, they just don't have to learn about it during science class.

reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 07:48 PM by SaturnFX

I read how it is part of the agenda to push home schooling for the purpose of keeping individuals purposefully ignorant. Keeping a population dumbed down is required for the tyrants to remain tyrants. less open discussion and speculation when your teacher is also your belt weilding parent whom will whip ya if you question whats said. heh.

reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 07:53 PM by SaturnFX

Originally posted by 911stinks
I think good, God respecting parents are fed up with the holes in evolution, and the constant changing of science to fit with inconvenient truths, and the forcing of the religion (evolutionism) down our childrens throats.

I hear ya...I am sick of the holes in history, so I am going to teach my kids whatever comes to mind...oh, and not fond of the fact that we have no consensus in anything science related...therefore going to teach that gravity works by invisible leprecauns holding everything down, that molecules bond together out of love, and the entire universe is about 10 miles further than pluto.

-sighs-
I would explain the issue here, but you wouldn't understand anyhow.

reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 07:55 PM by drwizardphd

Originally posted by 911stinks

Teaching young ones about the differences between creationism and evolution gives the child a chance to see that there really are two completely trains of thought on how we came about.

Different, indeed. But more importantly, they are not mutually exclusive fields of thought.

Evolution is a fact. That's pretty much universally accepted among the scientific and educated community. However, there is still no definite explanation for creation. Evolution is simply the progress life has taken since the point of creation. Evolution does not explain how creation occurred. To think you must believe one or the other is a logical fallacy.

I feel sorry for the children who are not being taught evolution because of their parent's beliefs. They won't ever get the chance to make up their minds, and their understanding of the world will be forever limited.

reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 07:56 PM by DisappearCompletely

Originally posted by 911stinks

Personally, I feel the child should know both, to be able to make their own decision. The study of the differences between the two would probably make an interesting subject on it's own.

The bible, to me, is a fascinating piece of history, and is full of good instruction. Teaching young ones about the differences between creationism and evolution gives the child a chance to see that there really are two completely trains of thought on how we came about.

I think good, God respecting parents are fed up with the holes in evolution, and the constant changing of science to fit with inconvenient truths, and the forcing of the religion (evolutionism) down our childrens throats.

Science wouldn't be science if it didn't change as we progress in technology and understanding. You expect us to know everything about evolution before we can teach it? This just shows gross hypocrisy while you have no problem supporting the idea of biblical creation that has ZERO supporting empirical evidence.

I have no problem with children learning about religion, but it should be kept in religion or philosophy classes, not science.

I honestly can't believe the growing ignorance against science on this site. If this nonsense keeps going the way it is, society is going to stagnate and devolve.

reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 07:58 PM by randyvs

reply to post by hippomchippo

There was a time when the Bible was the only source for science Pal.
Man just followed the Bibles lead.

Did you know that there are a Great many "Scientifically Prophetic" Bible passeges?
Many Scientists,Evolutionists, Astronomers, Athiests will often try to," lend a boot"
to Chritianity or the Bible by using science.
What I would like to show those that are interested.
Is how the Christian Bible is actually
centuries ahead of science with out beiTime had a beginning - 2 Timothy 1:9, Titus 1:2, 1 Corinthians 2:72
The universe had a beginning - Genesis 1:1, 2:4, Isaiah 42:5, etc.3
The universe was created from the invisible(atoms) - Hebrews 11:34
The dimensions of the universe were created - Romans 8:38-395
The universe is expanding - 44:24Job 9:8, Psalm 104:2, Isaiah 40:22, Isaiah 42:5,
Isaiah 45:12, Isaiah 48:13, Isaiah 51:13, Jeremiah 10:12, Jeremiah 51:15, Zechariah 12:16
Creation of matter and energy has ended in the universe (refutes steady-state theory)
- Genesis 2:3-47
The universe is winding down and will "wear out" (second law of thermodynamics ensures
that the universe will run down due to "heat death"-maximum entropy) - Psalm 102:25-278
Describes the correct order of creation - Genesis 1 (Day-Age Genesis One Interpretation)
Number of stars exceeds a billion - Genesis 22:17, Jeremiah 33:229(Also I think that this
one predicts that man will also exceed the billions)
Every star is different - 1 Corinthians 15:4110
Pleiades and Orion as gravitationally bound star groups - Job 38:3111
Light is in motion - Job 38:19-2012
The earth is controlled by the heavens - Job 38:331
Earth is a sphere - Isaiah 40:2213 Job 26:1014
At any time, there is day and night on the Earth - Luke 17:34-3515
Earth is suspended in space - Job 26:716
Earth began as a waterworld. Formation of continents by tectonic activity described -
Genesis 1:2-9, Psalm 104:6-9, Proverbs 3:19, Proverbs 8:27-29, Job 38:4-8, 2 Peter 3:517
Water cycle described - Ecclesiastes 1:7; Isaiah 55:10, Job 36:27-2818
Valleys exist on the bottom of the sea - 2 Samuel 22:1619
Vents exist on the bottom of the sea - Job 38:1620
Ocean currents in the sea - Psalm 8:821
Air has weight - Job 28:2522
Winds blow in circular paths - Ecclesiastes 1:623
The chemical nature of human life - Genesis 2:7, 3:1924
Life of creatures are in the blood - Leviticus 17:1125
The nature of infectious diseases - Leviticus 13:4626
Importance of sanitation to health - Numbers 19, Deuteronomy 23:12-13, Leviticus 7-927
credit agree to disagree
.......................................................................................

Try again.

reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 08:01 PM by 911stinks

Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by hippomchippo

There was a time when the Bible was the only source for science Pal.
Man just followed the Bibles lead.

Did you know that there are a Great many "Scientifically Prophetic" Bible passeges?
Many Scientists,Evolutionists, Astronomers, Athiests will often try to," lend a boot"
to Chritianity or the Bible by using science.
What I would like to show those that are interested.
Is how the Christian Bible is actually
centuries ahead of science with out beiTime had a beginning - 2 Timothy 1:9, Titus 1:2, 1 Corinthians 2:72
The universe had a beginning - Genesis 1:1, 2:4, Isaiah 42:5, etc.3
The universe was created from the invisible(atoms) - Hebrews 11:34
The dimensions of the universe were created - Romans 8:38-395
The universe is expanding - 44:24Job 9:8, Psalm 104:2, Isaiah 40:22, Isaiah 42:5,
Isaiah 45:12, Isaiah 48:13, Isaiah 51:13, Jeremiah 10:12, Jeremiah 51:15, Zechariah 12:16
Creation of matter and energy has ended in the universe (refutes steady-state theory)
- Genesis 2:3-47
The universe is winding down and will "wear out" (second law of thermodynamics ensures
that the universe will run down due to "heat death"-maximum entropy) - Psalm 102:25-278
Describes the correct order of creation - Genesis 1 (Day-Age Genesis One Interpretation)
Number of stars exceeds a billion - Genesis 22:17, Jeremiah 33:229(Also I think that this
one predicts that man will also exceed the billions)
Every star is different - 1 Corinthians 15:4110
Pleiades and Orion as gravitationally bound star groups - Job 38:3111
Light is in motion - Job 38:19-2012
The earth is controlled by the heavens - Job 38:331
Earth is a sphere - Isaiah 40:2213 Job 26:1014
At any time, there is day and night on the Earth - Luke 17:34-3515
Earth is suspended in space - Job 26:716
Earth began as a waterworld. Formation of continents by tectonic activity described -
Genesis 1:2-9, Psalm 104:6-9, Proverbs 3:19, Proverbs 8:27-29, Job 38:4-8, 2 Peter 3:517
Water cycle described - Ecclesiastes 1:7; Isaiah 55:10, Job 36:27-2818
Valleys exist on the bottom of the sea - 2 Samuel 22:1619
Vents exist on the bottom of the sea - Job 38:1620
Ocean currents in the sea - Psalm 8:821
Air has weight - Job 28:2522
Winds blow in circular paths - Ecclesiastes 1:623
The chemical nature of human life - Genesis 2:7, 3:1924
Life of creatures are in the blood - Leviticus 17:1125
The nature of infectious diseases - Leviticus 13:4626
Importance of sanitation to health - Numbers 19, Deuteronomy 23:12-13, Leviticus 7-927
credit agree to disagree
.......................................................................................

Try again.

You see, they're learning already.

Great post!

reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 08:38 PM by Jim Scott

The Bible is a great source for information, and of course for building faith. I personally believe that God made everything fast, but made the scientific evidence show that it could have been made slowly. You have a choice. You can believe both, or only science. I believe God.

There is room in Genesis 2 for a special creation of Adam and Eve, rather than a 6 day creation. Adam was the first with a soul from God, and the ability to know good from evil.

[edit on 3/6/2010 by Jim Scott]

reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 08:42 PM by Carseller4

However and whatever homeschool kids are learning, they are generally smarter than government controlled schools.

reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 08:46 PM by endisnighe

Just another attack on the homeschooled?

I am sorry, I learned more from my life and family then I did in school.

Read a book, open your eyes, critical thinking, NOT indoctrination.

Who cares what people are being taught in home schools?

Is it anybodies business but the parents? HELL NO!

I am going to post a members name just to show the way I feel-

tired of control freaks

reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 08:48 PM by Xcalibur254

reply to post by randyvs

Yet, nobody knew these things. Even if they are legitimately in the Bible and not just one of many possible interpretations, they were not noticed until science had already discovered them. Since, that's the case, what's the point?

reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 09:00 PM by Tyler 720

Home school is just the religious(facist) rights answer to the liberal (socialist) lefts brainwashing tacticts.

Neither one teaches the most important thing one could ever learn, how to think for ones self.

The person who can rationaly put together two previous thoughts or ideas into one new unheard of idea is the most dangerous person to each of these obssessive,compusive, destructive , manipulative, overbearing, psychopathic, delusional, mirror images of each other.

reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 09:04 PM by Flighty

There is no law that says people HAVE to learn Darwins THEORY of Evolution anyway.

I think the reason this is controversial is because ATHEISTS have hitched themselves up to Darwins little red wagon and therefore feel that their "religion" of Evolution (as opposed to THEORY) isn't being "preached" enough.

The irony is totally lost on them of being in a cult, preaching a theory, with Darwin as their God. That's how it comes across to a lot of people.

Besides, it's no ones business whether people prefer christian over Darwinism anyway.

If people want, they can take their kids out of school and home school them and teach their kids Darwinism to their hearts content. Why force it on others?

[edit on 6-3-2010 by Flighty]

reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 09:08 PM by hadriana

Well include me in the group that homeschools and wants to give my PAGAN child religious and moral instruction. Also include the 41 families in my homeschool group who are all Jewish, pagan, wiccan, buddhist, ect.

All of us teach evolution. We all use the same texts the schools use for the most part.

Homeschooling + wanting to teach morals or religion does not equal being a fundamental Christian.

reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 09:15 PM by mamabeth

reply to post by SaturnFX

Some of my grandchildren are home-schooled,some are not.
Guess which ones are doing better...the home-schooled!
The ones in public school are struggling just to survive school!

reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 09:16 PM by Xcalibur254

reply to post by Flighty

Because science is a major part of any child's schooling. It just so happens that all of modern biology relies on the theory that has the most evidence supporting it, which is evolution. Without being taught evolution it is impossible to understand where the field of biology is today. Also, evolution hasn't been Darwin's theory for quite some time. It's been added to and amended over the years as more and more data is acquired.

reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 09:20 PM by rcwj1975