Originally posted by _BoneZ_
The buildings were found to be safe against an impact at 600mph

they were? Who smashed a plane at 600mph into them.... oh, it was just another "truther" lie.

Who's peddling conspiracy fantasies again?

You and other "truthers" are!

Please let me start by saying, I will NEVER believe the OS of 911. And through research and sites like these, I have actually gotten a lot of my friends to "rethink" 911........most of which DID believe the OS. But I have to say, this video is rediculous. It makes us "Truthers" look like idiots. I watched it and thought, omg, this makes us look like morons.

I am all for a new investigation, and I am all about this being an inside job, but as pepper whatever pointed out in his posts on page two or so....this video is nothing but grasping at straws. I figured that out in the first 30 seconds. I would never show this video to any of my still skeptical friends. It's truly a piece of trash and should be banned by all "truthers".

Let's find some better evidence please!

Originally posted by Cowgirlstraitup7

I would never show this video to any of my still skeptical friends. It's truly a piece of trash and should be banned by all "truthers".

I'm curious to know why you think so.

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Apparnatly an off tpoic rant?? sorry folks......

[edit on 7-3-2010 by andy1972]

I've read many of the 9-11 threads and this trend of outward hatred and name calling from both sides is getting really old.

9-11 is a passionate subject and both sides need to take a step back and realize that both groups are just as passionate about their viewpoint as the other.

Trusters are fed up trying to explain and rehash the what they believe based on the evidence and facts they have researched so their frustration comes out as insulting.

Truthers feel the same and anyone who disagrees with their understanding hasn't done the research or is blind.

All evidence put forth should be watched or read, your agreements and or disagreements stated in a civil manner.

We are all guilty of this no matter the side but as soon as people stop the bickering and personal insults maybe we could actually accomplish something.

[edit on 7-3-2010 by drock905]

Hey, for everyone finding a gif annoying. Get firefox and install adblockplus. All you have to do is right click on any picture on any site or any page and click block image.

Poof, no more super annoying, weird looking, mind freaky, infantile, puerile, mean spirited, ignomaneous PHOTO.

Anyway OP, I have never trusted my government, who would?

To question ones government is the basis of our system of government.

I watched the video and found it to be spooky.

I have stayed away from the Truth Posts because I know the largest troll percentage would be here. God, and I thought my forte of political banter was bad.

For those that trust their government, do you not study history?

Back to the OP, I have dealt with fireman for a longtime in my position as a super in construction. I have seen them rush into a place that had a gas leak that was streaming from a 2" main line damage. I could smell it from blocks away.

Brave sonsabitches. God love and Bless them.

[edit on 3/7/2010 by endisnighe]

The moment i understood ImAPepper is discussing a post he did not read he landed on my ignore list. There are very very few users there, i usually do not ignore anyone but this fact and his annoying avatar gave me all i needed.
ImAPepper you have no respect, no good intentions, its insulting just to reed your posts.
ImAPepper YOU ARE NOW INVISIBLE.

Regarding the video; this is just one more video with information and facts we already knew, the 9.11 issue is no more a question of prooving facts, it is about how long the us people are going to do nothing about it. THEY will never ever pay unless you get REALLY mad.
Stop the wars your gov is involved in, bring your men back and let them take care of the real enemy. These people will not be imprisoned or judged by any court no matter how much evidence we bring up.
How much can you take?
The land of freedom...yeah sure.

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After spending the last 20 minutes watching the video and reading this thread I felt I needed to reply.

First off, I would like to thank the OP for the video it opens up an avenue of debate and discussion...but perhaps not for this forum.

I am appalled at the level of decorum and language used by some people posting. Whether you don't agree or not, why can't you simply debate in a civilised and intelligent manner?

We should not forget that respect should be shown to the people and the familys that have been affected by this atrocity and quite frankly i am disgusted at the level shown.

Why are you guys continuing to argue with these people that (according to you) are trying to derail the thread?



Here are my thoughts on the subject....

Each person is entitled to their own opinions. Each person is also entitled to state their case. Now, the OP started this thread and stated his case. Whether or not I agree with his case against or for the OS, he's got a right to post it. Likewise, if someone wants to come here and state their case against the OP, they also have the right to do so. It's called discussion. You might agree or disagree with the OP, but must accept the fact that he is afforded the right to post his case, which the OP has done.


Now...


State your case, for or against the OP, back it up with evidence (remember, evidence is not always proof) and move on. You serve no purpose here by name-calling, or intentionally trying to "derail" a thread.


Each side has the right to post here as long as it is a civil discussion. I am so sick and tired of reading threads like this (so that I can learn more about the events on that day) only to be interrupted by people that have nothing better to do than come here and name-call, prejudge, and simply slander those posting. That goes for BOTH sides of this discussion.

Keep it clean, keep it civil, and if you do not like what the other has to say, simply ignore it. Just because someone came here to discredit you does not give you the right to lash out at them.

Also, if they came here to simply discredit you or what you have to say, it does not mean that your post is garbage, and it does not mean that your information is false. People believe what they believe.

Truth is truth, no matter what form it might take. I urge all of you to calm down, take a breath, count to ten, do whatever you have to do to keep this civil.



OK, so as far as the original post is concerned...

You've stated your case, and whether I agree with it or not, I respect your views. I enjoyed the post, and I enjoyed the video. I am not convinced 100% that 9/11 was an inside job, but I give you my respect for presenting me with evidence.

(remember, evidence is not always proof)

[edit on 7-3-2010 by Semus]

Originally posted by dereks


Both damaged when airliners hit them, and the fire was not fought...


Rather severely damaged when WTC1 fell on it, unchecked fires burrnt for hours....

Do you have evidence to back this up?

Now, take your time, think about the question before you answer. I am not here to discredit you, and I'm not here to call you names. But, you made two statements without posting evidence.

If you do have this evidence, I'll gladly here you out and will take that evidence into consideration and come to my own conclusions. Remember, you won't convince everyone with your evidence.

I respect your views, and you have the right to discuss this just like everyone in this thread, so I hope to hear what evidence you have for or against the OS. Moreover, I hope to hear what evidence you have for or against the OP.

Now, in this post I have said nowhere that I am for or against the OS, so please keep that in mind before you respond.