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Topic started on 6-3-2010 @ 07:23 AM by Dark Ghost
I believe members should be allowed to delete threads in which they have created. There should be an option when editing one's own Profile to delete threads in their history that they no longer feel are worthy of existing. The deletion will not be immediate. The thread will be tagged, and deletion will occur after X hours have passed.

Allowing members to do this would bring the following benefits:
- The ability to delete past threads that are outdated and unlikely to receive further replies
- The ability to remove threads that were made redundant due to later events
- Freeing up space and putting less strain on the ATS servers

Some possible guidelines and limitations
- Threads with over 200 replies may not be deleted
- Threads that are under 72 hours old may not be marked for deletion
- Threads that have received X number of Flags may not be deleted
- Definitive Warning given before any deletion takes place that it is irreversible and all points/flags gained within the thread will be lost.
- Distinctive Warning given to the author that once the criteria have been met and the deletion approved, it is irreversible. Flags, stars and points attained from the author and those who replied within these threads will NOT be affected.
- Threads will have a "Marked For Deletion By Author" sign on them (only visible when viewing the actual thread) and their deletion can be opposed by other members. If no objections have been made before the duration has passed, the thread will be deleted.

Please keep in mind that this Thread Deletion feature is ONLY for threads in which the author has created. I am suggesting that individual members have the ability to request deletion of their past threads using an automated method that is quick and easy for them and Admins.

Edit: Due to subsequent replies, I have changed some of the information on this opening post. I will leave all the original words but use the strikeout feature to show what I have modified.

[edit on 6/3/2010 by Dark Ghost]


reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 07:31 AM by Trappedinspace
reply to post by Dark Ghost



I second that, good one OP. Not sure if this will stay here though, they might tell you to submit a suggestion, Unless you already have


reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 07:32 AM by randyvs
reply to post by Dark Ghost



I think this is in the agreement though guy. Once you've made a thread
it is the property of ATS. Therefor further and foremost you need to think
a little longer before you punch n click that send button.

[edit on 6-3-2010 by randyvs]



reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 07:44 AM by charlie_the_loafer
Originally posted by randyvs
reply to
post by Dark Ghost



I think this is in the agreement though guy. Once you've made a thread
it is the property of ATS. Therefor further and foremost you need to think
a little longer before you punch n click that send button.

[edit on 6-3-2010 by randyvs]


You are wrong. The law in most countries suggests this idea : the words you use and the way you arrange those words gives you absolute rights to what you create from the moment you are creating it ( as you write) . No terms and agreement section from any forum in the world will change that.
What you write is your property and nobody else in the world own the rights on what you wrote.

For example let's say ATS bans one of its members, that member is entitled to contact a moderator or the site owner or whomever and to inform them to delete all his posts or threads. It's his right and no terms will ever change that.
This is not necessarily to happen only when one is banned. Maybe a person changed his visions upon a matter .

It can happen that someone started a thread against a company , the same company that after two years gave him a job... it is normal that the respective person would have want the thread deleted.

Also maybe a job as a civil servant , and with a couple of years before questioned the fairness of the respective government in this forum. It's normal he would like the thread to be removed.

Not many know , but its their rights to ask something like this and those in charge should be obligated by morale issues to do so , if not morale , than by the law

Just thought i would inform the thread starter that the rights on what he writes belongs to him and him only no matter the terms agreed on at registration


reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 07:47 AM by tothetenthpower
reply to post by charlie_the_loafer



Your kidding right?

If you sign a T&C which states "we own whatever you put on" then you have no right to it after that.

The membership sign up is like a binding legal contract for your membership.

These rules DO matter when it comes to the legalities my friend. You aren't as free as you think.

~Keeper


reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 07:50 AM by charlie_the_loafer
reply to post by tothetenthpower


I speak from personal experience. Do you? or you only state what's on your mind? If you would have been curios enough you would have made a search and see previous similar situations on many forums across the world.
See the advices and the solving from there



reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 07:56 AM by tothetenthpower
reply to post by charlie_the_loafer



This isn't other forums friend, this is ATS. I don't need to search other websites to understand the concept of a binding legal contract...

Now ATS luckily DOES NOT have a policy that it owns whatever you put on the site.

And yes I speak from experience as I am an IT proffessional who has done website design. The owner of the website owns the content if he so chooses.

Anybody dumb enough to post something online is subject to the rules of the place they are posting in.

In the case of Facebook for example, last year they changed their T&C to state that all pictures and posts were THEIR property even after your account was disabled.

This is a BINDING term, which as a member you accept when you sign up, therefore, according to the law, it belongs to facebook, not you, from day 1.

You can't get around a T&C. It's like a credit card, whatever is in the contract is binding and legal. The internet is no different.

~Keeper

[edit on 3/6/2010 by tothetenthpower]


reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 09:31 AM by Hellmutt
If there is one thread of yours that you really, really want to have "removed", you can file a complaint/suggestion with a link to your thread, and your reasons for wanting it removed from the board. In most cases, the threads will not be removed though. There has to be a very good reason. And if the thread has many replies, there's less chance of getting your wish granted.


reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 10:30 AM by UberL33t
reply to post by Dark Ghost




Allowing members to do this would bring the following benefits: - The ability to delete past threads that are outdated and unlikely to receive further replies


Based on this, I am obliged to disagree with the OP because it completely defeats the purpose of the thread that I created here:

This is one of the BEST threads you will ever see on ATS! (cheap plug)

However...I would have agreed with the OP if merely to give other OP's the ability to concede a thread in the instance of a repeat post (same thread topic, multiple different authors). There is seemingly a constant barrage of these repeat posts. It should be "honor among authors" and the author who posted a thread first should have "the glory" if you will.

...and as I was educated recently when I posted a thread on the matter,

and...

IN reply to post by Hellmutt



Similar to this reply, but in the case of repeat posts, one merely needs to "ALERT" a Mod and repeat posts will be resolved. The true OP will remain the only "reply-able" thread on the board.

I think it is safe to say that the "ALERT" button can be used in any scenario that a member felt the need to request a thread be "Deleted", their own or otherwise.

Good Luck in your endeavor none the less.

edit: to remove smudging and make shine!

[edit on 3/6/2010 by UberL33t]


reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 09:37 PM by Dark Ghost
Originally posted by UberL33t
Based on this, I am obliged to disagree with the OP because it completely defeats the purpose of the thread that I created here:

This is one of the BEST threads you will ever see on ATS! (cheap plug)

However...I would have agreed with the OP if merely to give other OP's the ability to concede a thread in the instance of a repeat post (same thread topic, multiple different authors). There is seemingly a constant barrage of these repeat posts. It should be "honor among authors" and the author who posted a thread first should have "the glory" if you will.


I am having difficulty understanding the point behind your post. Can you please rephrase what you have said and how it relates to the suggestion in the OP?


reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 09:40 PM by Dark Ghost
Originally posted by Hellmutt
If there is one thread of yours that you really, really want to have "removed", you can
file a complaint/suggestion with a link to your thread, and your reasons for wanting it removed from the board. In most cases, the threads will not be removed though. There has to be a very good reason. And if the thread has many replies, there's less chance of getting your wish granted.


I don't see much point in using that method. Why would a user go through so much trouble to get a thread deleted when the chance of being successful is so low? Should users have to relay their life story and intentions just to get a single thread of theirs removed?

[edit on 6/3/2010 by Dark Ghost]


reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 10:35 PM by UberL33t
reply to post by Dark Ghost





I am having difficulty understanding the point behind your post.


I am not sure I understand why you're having difficulty understanding. Simply put, if you want a Thread deleted, contact a Mod. Your idea is novel and deserves attention.

However...

If you've posted a thread that you deem no longer worthy of ATS stature, then by all means ask a Mod to delete/close/lock it, whatever.

...and I agree with the concept, I think that as an OP, if one is given the right to edit an OP, then one should in fact be given the right to remove an OP all together.

...and like I said previously...Good luck in your (this) endeavor!


reply posted on 6-3-2010 @ 10:40 PM by FortAnthem
reply to post by Dark Ghost



I've found that if you post a dupe thread and realize it quickly, you can get a nice mod to delete your own dupe thread if you hit the alert button and ask them nicely.

Other than for dupe threads, I can't really think of a reason you'd want to delete an old thread.
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