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reply posted on 13-3-2010 @ 04:32 PM by Hedera Helix

Originally posted by davesidious
reply to post by Hedera Helix

It takes a few seconds to find an answer. Why didn't you bother looking for yourself?

Fallstreak hole. These have happened since the beginning of clouds, so can't possibly be blamed on HAARP, though I doubt that will stop people from doing so.

If these phenomenon have been happening since the beginning of clouds and are indeed natural... then how is it your wiki source uses the excuse that they're believed to be caused by JETS??? That sure doesn't sound like you and your wiki source are on the same page, now does it???

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reply posted on 13-3-2010 @ 04:39 PM by davesidious

reply to post by Hedera Helix

Your reading comprehension needs a bit of work...

It is believed that a disruption in the stability of the cloud layer, such as that caused by a passing jet, may induce the domino process of evaporation which creates the hole.

Note how it says "such as that caused by a passing jet", and not "such as only caused by a passing jet".

Yes, I and meteorology are on the same page. You and reality, however, seem to be chapters apart

reply posted on 13-3-2010 @ 04:40 PM by Hedera Helix

Originally posted by davesidious
reply to post by Hedera Helix

I just showed how those cloud formations are natural, and you think I'm being irrational? Give me a break, sunshine. It's not I who is being irrational.

Natural???

reply posted on 13-3-2010 @ 04:44 PM by davesidious

reply to post by Hedera Helix

Yes, natural. You obviously read the wiki article I linked to. It's all outlined, in very simple terms, in there.

reply posted on 13-3-2010 @ 04:50 PM by Hedera Helix

Originally posted by davesidious
reply to post by Hedera Helix

Your reading comprehension needs a bit of work...

It is believed that a disruption in the stability of the cloud layer, such as that caused by a passing jet, may induce the domino process of evaporation which creates the hole.

Note how it says "such as that caused by a passing jet", and not "such as only caused by a passing jet".

Yes, I and meteorology are on the same page. You and reality, however, seem to be chapters apart

Well thank you for opening the door for UFOs and HAARP... being JETS aren't the only cause.

reply posted on 13-3-2010 @ 04:58 PM by davesidious

reply to post by Hedera Helix

What are you on about? Natural phenomena can cause those clouds. You've yet to show how any single one of those clouds couldn't be naturally formed.

You're not very good at this whole critical thinking lark, are you?

reply posted on 13-3-2010 @ 05:02 PM by Maybe...maybe not

reply to post by Hedera Helix

G'day Hedera Helix

Those clouds are a natural formation caused by "ice particle falls" from clouds at a higher altitude.

Amongst many external sources, I refer you to our famous meteorological subject matter expert, OzWeatherman.

"Google" or "ATS"..... "hole punch clouds".

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

reply posted on 13-3-2010 @ 05:27 PM by kid_of_3NKi

Originally posted by Phage
Those are not "beams". They are contrail shadows.
www.weatherscapes.com...

If this is a contrail shadow..

please explain its relative fast movement across the sky, while the sun (source of light) and the contrail accordingly don't seem to move at all?

Ko3

reply posted on 13-3-2010 @ 05:46 PM by davesidious

reply to post by kid_of_3NKi

Because the shadow is falling on two clouds, as the gap in the shadow (and two distinct cloud types) attests to. The clouds are moving at different speeds, at different altitudes. The cloud the shadow's being cast on is moving.

reply posted on 14-3-2010 @ 08:37 AM by kid_of_3NKi

reply to post by davesidious

Sorry, you are wrong!

If the (invisible??) cloud layer would be moving, the shadow would fall on different spots on the cloud layer, analog to the movement of the layer and it would still appear to stay at the same position. The only way to make the shadow appear to move, is to move the contrail or the source of light (sun)!

Next explaination attempt please..

Ko3

reply posted on 14-3-2010 @ 10:51 AM by Phage

reply to post by kid_of_3NKi

But the contrail is moving. It moves from the right of the Sun to the left of the Sun.

When it is to the right of the Sun it casts its shadow to the right. When it is aligned with the Sun it is directly over its shadow. When it is to the left of the Sun so is its shadow.

The shadow behaves like a ... shadow.

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