Laser Beams from the sky? HAARP? Blue Beam?, page 1
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Topic started on 5-3-2010 @ 01:41 PM by Smell The Roses
This video may be slightly old but it appears to be unknown by many. This is part 2 of a 3 part video. I have been researching HAARP holograms lately and stumbled on this. I have no idea if this is real because of the new tech making faking videos very easy, but this sure looks real to me...

Laser Beams From Sky

I was lead to this video by another video featuring Janet and Chris Morris (they are the leading contributors to our new Non-lethal weapons systems the military has been developing), both work for U.S. Federal and Military agencies. They discuss the use of holographic weaponry on the battlefields and the advantages to such weapons. A video with them can be found here.

Chris and Janet Morris

@ 4.40 the Morris's discuss holographic weaponry.

Research about Janet and Chris Morris and they say some very interesting things the public is unaware of...remember also they are the experts in this field and hold positions in our Government accordingly.



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reply posted on 5-3-2010 @ 02:07 PM by Smell The Roses
Originally posted by Phage
Those are not "beams". They are contrail shadows.
www.weatherscapes.com...


Not sure about that...it does seam logical but...

The fact that there are 4 perfect beam shaped "contrail shadows" going to the same exact location? The trails as you can see dilate perfectly.

The fact that prior to these beams appearing there is what appears to be a jet shooting down and then a red beam? I mean that one beam is obviously not from the sun....look at the other? Maybe another scientific explainable event?

Just saying..there seams to be an awful lot going on in this video besides shadows. Maybe you can explain further because I feel very uninformed about most of these occurrences even after I look in to them.



reply posted on 5-3-2010 @ 02:10 PM by davesidious
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If you think there are such things as "HAARP holograms", you have not been researching very hard, or are not employing critical thought and objectivity in your research.

"HAARP holograms"! Now I've heard everything.


reply posted on 5-3-2010 @ 02:17 PM by Smell The Roses
Originally posted by davesidious
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If you think there are such things as "HAARP holograms", you have not been researching very hard, or are not employing critical thought and objectivity in your research.

"HAARP holograms"! Now I've heard everything.


Right. Because you know more than the leading developers of the US Military's Non-Lethal Weapon Systems. Um am I missing something here? Try and research the names given, and you might just awaken yourself from your sleep.


reply posted on 5-3-2010 @ 02:22 PM by Smell The Roses
Originally posted by davesidious
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If you think there are such things as "HAARP holograms", you have not been researching very hard, or are not employing critical thought and objectivity in your research.

"HAARP holograms"! Now I've heard everything.


I edited the OP to contain the time in the video of the Morris's interviews. Use the critical thought process you describe and take a look for yourself. Or are you calling them liars? Not sure if you are in denial or accusing the video as being a fraud? Please explain.


reply posted on 5-3-2010 @ 02:49 PM by Maybe...maybe not
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G'day Smell The Roses

Video 1:

Phage is correct.....the vid shows contrail shadows.

That is to say:

The higher contrails cast shadows on the various lower clouds that are at different levels, thereby producing these mutiple black lines.

Video 2:

I do not believe HAARP is a problem.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not


reply posted on 5-3-2010 @ 02:54 PM by hippomchippo
Originally posted by Smell The Roses
Originally posted by davesidious
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If you think there are such things as "HAARP holograms", you have not been researching very hard, or are not employing critical thought and objectivity in your research.

"HAARP holograms"! Now I've heard everything.


Right. Because you know more than the leading developers of the US Military's Non-Lethal Weapon Systems. Um am I missing something here? Try and research the names given, and you might just awaken yourself from your sleep.

Can you show me any actual evidence that HAARP can do any of this?
Or are you going to give me more youtube videos with biblical quotes and other poorly identified aerial phenomenon?

[edit on 5-3-2010 by hippomchippo]



reply posted on 5-3-2010 @ 03:18 PM by Smell The Roses
Originally posted by hippomchippo
Originally posted by Smell The Roses
Originally posted by davesidious
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post by Smell The Roses



If you think there are such things as "HAARP holograms", you have not been researching very hard, or are not employing critical thought and objectivity in your research.

"HAARP holograms"! Now I've heard everything.


Right. Because you know more than the leading developers of the US Military's Non-Lethal Weapon Systems. Um am I missing something here? Try and research the names given, and you might just awaken yourself from your sleep.

Can you show me any actual evidence that HAARP can do any of this?
Or are you going to give me more youtube videos with biblical quotes and other poorly identified aerial phenomenon?

[edit on 5-3-2010 by hippomchippo]


If Janet and Chris Morris's words and interview aren't evidence than I think the only thing that will convince you is if someone held your hand, walked you to where they are experimenting, and had you stare at it for maybe an hour....Are you saying that these people are not credible sources? How about you provide some proof yourself that they are lying and have no idea what they are talking about. If you can do that I might just consider your response intelligent. Otherwise it seams like another person looking for the easy way out.


reply posted on 5-3-2010 @ 03:22 PM by Smell The Roses
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Well thank you for the information. I still however believe strongly that there is something being experimented on involving the use of holograms and beams. Take a look at this video here. Janet Morris CLEARLY explains that sightings of a UFO and Laser at the same place and same time are not simply coincidences. As a matter of fact she goes further to explain that this would be how a Holographic image could be displayed. Have a look around..I am trying to piece together the sighting of beams and the experimentation with satellite projected holograms.

More Information


reply posted on 5-3-2010 @ 03:26 PM by Maybe...maybe not
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G'day Smell The Roses

OK....I'll have a look at that.

You might be interested to know there was a very extensive ATS thread approx 18 months ago regarding the issue of holographic projection into the sky.

Whilst I don't believe the technology for that currently exists, I found the discussion interesting. You might find also find it interesting if you can find it via ATS search. I'll also have a look for you.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not


reply posted on 5-3-2010 @ 03:33 PM by Smell The Roses
Originally posted by Maybe...maybe not
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G'day Smell The Roses

OK....I'll have a look at that.

You might be interested to know there was a very extensive ATS thread approx 18 months ago regarding the issue of holographic projection into the sky.

Whilst I don't believe the technology for that currently exists, I found the discussion interesting. You might find also find it interesting if you can find it via ATS search. I'll also have a look for you.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not


I will look into that, thanks again for the info.

The problem I am having with believing there is no such technology is that the U.S. governments' think tanks and consultants for Non Weaponry Technology say right in that video that all the technology needed to create such holograms is already in place right now.

Now I am not sure if people are trying to say that the Morris's are uncredible because I have already asked that about 3 times in this thread and have had 0 responses. It is quite clear after reading and watching their interviews that the technology is available and being tested currently....


reply posted on 5-3-2010 @ 04:05 PM by Maybe...maybe not
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G’day again Smell The Roses

Here are my thoughts having watched those videos again & reflected upon my own reading & experience.

Regarding the holographic projection into the sky.....

I have some knowledge of very powerful lasers based on some projects associated with my work.

Based on that, I do not believe the technology exists to use lasers to produce 3D holographic images in the sky by either:

- Projecting images onto clouds, vapour, etc…..or…..

- Using lasers to cause gaseous combustion (i.e. produce a series of controlled areas of plasma by laser excitation)

Regarding the patent issue…..

Many patents are issued for technology that does not work with a view to locking in such patents in case the technology can be developed at some time in the future. I am involved with such patents, in the area of very powerful lasers, wherein a device / technology is patented, but it will take years for technology to develop to the point wherein the device will be able to work properly.

Regarding the Morris's.....

I have no view as yet regarding the Morris’s…..I have not looked into their background. I will have a look now, with the limited time I have remaining this morning before I have to go out.

Kind regards
Maybe…maybe not


reply posted on 5-3-2010 @ 04:44 PM by Maybe...maybe not
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G'day again Smell The Roses

The Morris's are best known for their Sci Fi books:

en.wikipedia.org...(author)

I can't find any scientific background for the Morris's that would suggest they have any special knowledge of these mooted highly complex technologies.

I also can't find any recent references (i.e. within ths past 10-15 years) to the Morris's consulting to any government think-tanks or forums.

This leads me to start concluding the Morris's discussion is extremely speculative & not based on hard knowledge & experience.

I will keep looking for something of scientific or technical substance regarding the Morris's.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not


reply posted on 5-3-2010 @ 04:46 PM by davesidious
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Interviews prove nothing. It would be a lot simpler if they did, but they don't.



reply posted on 5-3-2010 @ 04:53 PM by Smell The Roses
Originally posted by Maybe...maybe not
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G'day again Smell The Roses

The Morris's are best known for their Sci Fi books:

en.wikipedia.org...(author)

I can't find any scientific background for the Morris's that would suggest they have any special knowledge of these mooted highly complex technologies.

I also can't find any recent references (i.e. within ths past 10-15 years) to the Morris's consulting to any government think-tanks or forums.

This leads me to start concluding the Morris's discussion is extremely speculative & not based on hard knowledge & experience.

I will keep looking for something of scientific or technical substance regarding the Morris's.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not


The problem once again lies with this information here:

Morris Wiki

It shows as a FACT that the Christopher Morris founded M2 Technologies and the company has been so successful working with the U.S. military that they have stopped writing science fiction.

Just because they wrote scifi doesn't make them a non credible source. Heck even our own government obviously is taking them seriously and trusts what they have to say.


reply posted on 5-3-2010 @ 04:55 PM by Smell The Roses
Originally posted by davesidious
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Interviews prove nothing. It would be a lot simpler if they did, but they don't.


Do facts prove anything?

It is a fact that they work with the government. Look it up and stop wasting time please. At least give some valuable information to the thread rather than pointless one liners. It is a fact that they have been so successful working with the government in the Non-Lethal Weaponry field that in fact they stopped writing books.

Fact.


reply posted on 5-3-2010 @ 04:59 PM by Maybe...maybe not
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G'day Smell The Roses

Thanks.....I've found the M2 Technologies website:

www.m2tech.us...

I'll have a good look at that & reply with my thoughts

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not


reply posted on 5-3-2010 @ 05:27 PM by Smell The Roses
Originally posted by Maybe...maybe not
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G'day Smell The Roses

Thanks.....I've found the M2 Technologies website:

www.m2tech.us...

I'll have a good look at that & reply with my thoughts

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not


Thanks again for your time and information. I have started a new thread that focuses directly on the Morris's and the information they provide regarding holographic weaponry.

New Thread


reply posted on 5-3-2010 @ 05:28 PM by hippomchippo
Originally posted by Smell The Roses
Originally posted by hippomchippo
Originally posted by Smell The Roses
Originally posted by davesidious
reply to
post by Smell The Roses



If you think there are such things as "HAARP holograms", you have not been researching very hard, or are not employing critical thought and objectivity in your research.

"HAARP holograms"! Now I've heard everything.


Right. Because you know more than the leading developers of the US Military's Non-Lethal Weapon Systems. Um am I missing something here? Try and research the names given, and you might just awaken yourself from your sleep.

Can you show me any actual evidence that HAARP can do any of this?
Or are you going to give me more youtube videos with biblical quotes and other poorly identified aerial phenomenon?

[edit on 5-3-2010 by hippomchippo]


If Janet and Chris Morris's words and interview aren't evidence than I think the only thing that will convince you is if someone held your hand, walked you to where they are experimenting, and had you stare at it for maybe an hour....Are you saying that these people are not credible sources? How about you provide some proof yourself that they are lying and have no idea what they are talking about. If you can do that I might just consider your response intelligent. Otherwise it seams like another person looking for the easy way out.


No, they aren't evidence, show me real evidence, not science fiction authors.
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