Best WWII weapon.

OK which one of these weapons would you like to have if you are a soldier fighting in the WWII. And please don't say this for close quarters, this for long range. I know this are different classes, but if you are a WWII soldier and you have ONLY ONE to choose which one would it be? You can also post your reasons. Consider everything including weight, range, power etc.

German Mp-44


Caliber: 7.92x33 mm (7.92mm Kurz)
Action: Gas operated, tilting bolt
Overall length: 940 mm
Barrel length: 419 mm
Weigth: 5.22 kg
Rate of fire: 500 rounds per minute
Magazine capacity: 30 rounds

US Thompson


Caliber .45ACP
Weight, 4.78 kg
Lenght 811 mm
Barrel lenght 267 mm
Rate of fire ~ 700 rpm
Magazine capacity 30 rounds box magazines and 50 or 100 rounds drums
Effective range ~ 50 meters

Russian PPS-43

Caliber: 7,62x25 mm TT
Weight: 3,67 kg loaded, 3,04 kg empty
Lenght (stock closed/open): 615 / 820 mm
Barrel lenght: 272 mm
Rate of fire: 700 rounds per minute
Magazine capacity: 35 rounds
Effective range: 200 meters

Russian Degtyarov PPD-40


Caliber: 7,62x25mm Tokarev (7.63mm Mauser)
Weight: 3.63 kg w/o magazine; 5.45 kg with loaded 71 rounds drum
Length: 788 mm
Barrel length: mm
Rate of fire: 800 rounds per minute
Magazine capacity: 71 rounds drums (also 25 rounds box magazines in PPD-34 and PPD-34/38)
Effective range: 200 meters

British Sten


Caliber: 9x19mm Luger/Para
Weight: 3.18 rg empty
Lenght: 762 mm
Barrel lenght: 196 mm
Rate of fire: 450 rounds per minute
Magazine capacity: 32 rounds
Effective range: 70 meters

German MP-38 / 40

Caliber: 9x19mm Luger/Para
Weight: 4,7 kg loaded, 4,03 kg empty
Lenght (stock closed/open): 630/833 mm
Barrel lenght: mm
Rate of fire: 500 rounds per minute
Magazine capacity: 32 rounds
Effective range: ca. 100 meters

US Browning BAR


Caliber: 7.62x63mm (.30-06 M2)
Weight: 8.8 kg empty
Length: 1214 mm
Length of barrel: 610 mm
Feeding: detachable box magazine, 20 rounds
Rate of fire: 450 or 650 rounds/min, selectable

UK Bren


caliber .303 British (Mk.1-Mk.3);
weigth 8.68 kg on bipod
Length 1156 mm
Length of barrel 635 mm
feeding magazine 30 rounds
rate of fire ca. 500 rounds per minute

German Mauser 98 rifle


Caliber: 7.92x57 mm Mauser
Action: manually operated, rotating bolt
Overall length: 1101 mm (1250 mm)
Barrel length: 600 mm (740 mm)
Weight: 3.92 kg (4.09 kg)
Magazine capacity: 5 rounds in integral box magazine

US M1 Garand


Caliber: .30-06 (7.62x63 mm)
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt
Overall length: 1103 mm
Barrel length: 610 mm
Weight: 4.32 kg
Feeding: non-detachable, clip-fed only magazine, 8 rounds

or US M1 Carabine


Caliber: .30 US Carbine (7.62x33 mm)
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt
Overall length: 904 mm
Barrel length: 458 mm
Weight: 2.36 kg without magazine
Magazine capacity: 15 or 30 rounds

So what do you think?


[Edited on 2-6-2004 by longbow]

I Like The Luger! as a Sidearm



But id have to say the Mp44 as a main weapon!

i would take the m1 carbine...

ive shot it before and i liked it a lot

M2 50 cal. Browning. Heavy hitter, long range but heavy. Hellva weapon as long as you don't have to slug it too far.

Originally posted by omega1
i would take the m1 carbine...

ive shot it before and i liked it a lot

M1 carbines lack accuracy and stopping power. I would pick either of the 30-06 caliber weapons the BAR, or M1 Garand.

I'll go with the ~PPD-40~ since I have a thing for Russian weapons, that and looks like a pretty good rate of rire -- and of course the drum mags! Whoohoo

Also what about the: ~PPSch-41~? It's a WWII wep as well, and from what I've read improved.




[Edited on 31-5-2004 by Sinfulcurves_AK105]

The M1 Garand, the "greatest battle implement ever devised"

Loved shooting the garand. Even better was watching someone shoot it for the first thime and getting a bloody nose or landing on their arse.

Originally posted by intrepid
M2 50 cal. Browning. Heavy hitter, long range but heavy. Hellva weapon as long as you don't have to slug it too far.

I meant a personal infantry weapon. Something you can carry with yourself...

I'd take the Bren or BAR for long range combat. They both have high accuracy and stopping power, plus a supidly high rate of fire

Originally posted by czakky
I'd take the Bren or BAR for long range combat. They both have high accuracy and stopping power, plus a supidly high rate of fire

Not really, the BAR had a rate of fire of 450 rpm I believe, anything faster and it would become uncontrollable.

"German Mp-44" or as its really called as Stg 44 was and still is (of all those weapons) the best, and had after the war great impact to weapons design of all nations, unlike the others that just become obsolete and were dumbed at 3rd world hell holes.

And as a hint to you son, world.guns.ru... doesnt allow remote linking, they just send you blank images.



Btw,

Stg 44's are still today put on good use at those 3rd world hell holes..


Stg 44 in use by Mahdi Militia.

Doesn't that dude know that shooting an antique firearm devalues it?? When he goes on "Antiques Roadshow" it will be worth alot less because of it.

Well, you know the Iraqis, they shoot with anything they can get their hands on and if they find some ammo to it.

The 1911..best combat handgun, EVER.

I would have to say the Stg 44. It made way for the AK-47...so you know it was really powerful, especially for that era. And yes i have shot that rifle before (Call of Duty rocks!)

Originally posted by Soli
I would have to say the Stg 44. It made way for the AK-47...so you know it was really powerful, especially for that era. And yes i have shot that rifle before (Call of Duty rocks!)

Jawohl,
I agree.

I'd have to go with the Kar 98 on the subject, I've fired one in real life and I loved it. Playing on Call of Duty as well, the only weapon I'd trust my "life" with on that game.

Weise in Call fo Duty i prefer my Mosin Nagant 1891/30. I love the sound of the sniper rifle version. 7.62x54 rulz!

The M1917A1 .30 Caliber Water-Cooled Machine Gun




My dad lugged this thing across Germany in 1945.




When the water froze in the winter, they would piss into the can.


[Edited on 1-6-2004 by HowardRoark]

To to Mauser/KAR 98 and Nagant : they are not auto or selfloading isn't it too big disadvantage?