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Who actually believes Madeleine McCann is still alive?
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Sorry, no I think she's dead and has been since the 3rd May 2007! I have followed this case almost since the beginning (as much because I was
astonished that 2 professional parents, fast approaching 40!) could be so stupid to leave all their very young children alone - anything could have
happened! Fire, chocking, falling or just waking up and being afraid in a strange apartment.
First there was the strange behaviour of the parents in the immediate aftermath, the constant changing of the stories, shutters jemmied, window open until it was proved that the shutters were not broken and the only print on the window was Kate McCanns! At which point they claimed the door was left unlocked, yet their total belief that Madeleine could not have left the apartment on her own! Why not? Of course that would mean negligence to the point of endangerment and they would face charges, so they kept up the mantra that it was like dining in the back garden and that all parents leave their young children alone to dine with friends,, and that it was a cultural thing that British parents did! (Erm, no we don't!)
The immediate castigation of the Portuguese investigation with the wild headlines that smacked of xenophobia. Gerry's very strange blogs about jogging and jet setting round the world, whilst leaving their remaining children in the creche in the village that their eldest was allegedly abducted from! Their constant talk of paedophiles, yet their maintenance that there was no evidence their daughter had been harmed. Ignoring the police request not to publicise her eye defect as this would lead to immediate disposal of the child if she was alive and Gerry McCann deciding to go against that because "It was a good marketing ploy" But at the same time when they were crtiticised for not showing emotion at press conferences they claimed that an (un-named) expert had advised them not to in case the abductor "got off" on their grief! (never heard of that before or since!)
The mass media campaign that was instigated within an hour of the "discovery" (one of the tapas friends called the BBC before the police were called!) the employment of lawyers and PR consultants to protect the image of the McCanns rather than specialists trained in recovering missing children. The setting up of a private fund within 3 weeks of her disappearance , organising future events to mark her disappearance, when of course she could have turned up anytime
And of course the EVRD dogs and their marking of cadaver odour and blood in the apartment, the McCanns hire car, Kate McCanns clothes, Madeleine's cuddly toy (the one kate mccann dragged with her everywhere!) and of course all of the ridiculous excuses for these findings (rotting meat, dirty nappies, the fact that kate as a GP had come into contact with dead bodies before the holiday - even though some of the clothes had been bought in Portugal!)
The suing of everyone who questions their version of events. The total lack of evidence of an unknown person in 5A (in fact the absence of anyone in 5A, suggesting a huge cleanup operation!
The constant whining in the media about how unfairly they are being treated (nevermind what their daughter may have gone through) and the total press blackout in reporting anything (or commenting on) anything negative about the McCanns!
And the latest stuff just beggars belief: Kate McCann wishing she and her family could be wiped out in a motorway crash! WTF??? And she then went on to compare her loss to suffering from cancer! A total lack of respect for anyone!
For a full overview of the case there is a good site to visit. The MCann files where everything they have ever said is documented and of course you can find the released police files here as well and you can see all of the discrepancies in statements and media interviews etc www.mccannfiles.com...
First there was the strange behaviour of the parents in the immediate aftermath, the constant changing of the stories, shutters jemmied, window open until it was proved that the shutters were not broken and the only print on the window was Kate McCanns! At which point they claimed the door was left unlocked, yet their total belief that Madeleine could not have left the apartment on her own! Why not? Of course that would mean negligence to the point of endangerment and they would face charges, so they kept up the mantra that it was like dining in the back garden and that all parents leave their young children alone to dine with friends,, and that it was a cultural thing that British parents did! (Erm, no we don't!)
The immediate castigation of the Portuguese investigation with the wild headlines that smacked of xenophobia. Gerry's very strange blogs about jogging and jet setting round the world, whilst leaving their remaining children in the creche in the village that their eldest was allegedly abducted from! Their constant talk of paedophiles, yet their maintenance that there was no evidence their daughter had been harmed. Ignoring the police request not to publicise her eye defect as this would lead to immediate disposal of the child if she was alive and Gerry McCann deciding to go against that because "It was a good marketing ploy" But at the same time when they were crtiticised for not showing emotion at press conferences they claimed that an (un-named) expert had advised them not to in case the abductor "got off" on their grief! (never heard of that before or since!)
The mass media campaign that was instigated within an hour of the "discovery" (one of the tapas friends called the BBC before the police were called!) the employment of lawyers and PR consultants to protect the image of the McCanns rather than specialists trained in recovering missing children. The setting up of a private fund within 3 weeks of her disappearance , organising future events to mark her disappearance, when of course she could have turned up anytime
And of course the EVRD dogs and their marking of cadaver odour and blood in the apartment, the McCanns hire car, Kate McCanns clothes, Madeleine's cuddly toy (the one kate mccann dragged with her everywhere!) and of course all of the ridiculous excuses for these findings (rotting meat, dirty nappies, the fact that kate as a GP had come into contact with dead bodies before the holiday - even though some of the clothes had been bought in Portugal!)
The suing of everyone who questions their version of events. The total lack of evidence of an unknown person in 5A (in fact the absence of anyone in 5A, suggesting a huge cleanup operation!
The constant whining in the media about how unfairly they are being treated (nevermind what their daughter may have gone through) and the total press blackout in reporting anything (or commenting on) anything negative about the McCanns!
And the latest stuff just beggars belief: Kate McCann wishing she and her family could be wiped out in a motorway crash! WTF??? And she then went on to compare her loss to suffering from cancer! A total lack of respect for anyone!
For a full overview of the case there is a good site to visit. The MCann files where everything they have ever said is documented and of course you can find the released police files here as well and you can see all of the discrepancies in statements and media interviews etc www.mccannfiles.com...
Who cares, really! there are much more important stuff to learn then a little girl that is not found by such a long time....
I agree, but unfortunately in the UK we are constantly being bombarded by the media with this nonsense, and whilst I feel sorry for the child, there
are thousands of missing children who do not get this type of publicity and I think that's wrong
yeah it is a very very very strange incident, the whole affair just makes no sense as detailed above
will she be found alive? unlikely
should police still be putting resources into finding her? nope
the mccans are wealthy people, they can afford to fund the search if they believe she is still alive
whatever happened to that little girl is a tragedy, but I don't think we will ever know what happened to her
will she be found alive? unlikely
should police still be putting resources into finding her? nope
the mccans are wealthy people, they can afford to fund the search if they believe she is still alive
whatever happened to that little girl is a tragedy, but I don't think we will ever know what happened to her
I think she is still alive - just my 2 cents, but I dont think the original intention was to harm her. And I think she is growing up under the false
belief that she is with people her parent know.
Not that this below has bearing on anything, but just my own thoughts ...
I had a vision of her not that long ago - feeding birds near a big fountain - it was hot and her hair was not as fair, it was darker.)
Not that this below has bearing on anything, but just my own thoughts ...
I had a vision of her not that long ago - feeding birds near a big fountain - it was hot and her hair was not as fair, it was darker.)
Originally posted by Smiggle
I think she is still alive - just my 2 cents, but I dont think the original intention was to harm her. And I think she is growing up under the false belief that she is with people her parent know.
Not that this below has bearing on anything, but just my own thoughts ...
I had a vision of her not that long ago - feeding birds near a big fountain - it was hot and her hair was not as fair, it was darker.)
I'm sorry, but why would you think that? Most children who are abducted by a stranger are dead within 48 hours! Why would this child be different? There has just been so much media spin by the parents in this case that many people seem to be under the fairytale illusion that somehow this child is living the life of a princess in a far away land, when lets face it abducted children usually have a far more horrific fate! It's the parents who have planted this notion of her being taking to Morocco or some such place to be sold to a rich family etc so unless her parents have sold her themselves and know this, I'm sorry but it is most probably fantasy!
Anyway if the child had been taken for this purpose, I think they would have been far more likely to take the younger sister, Amelie who was just 2yrs old at the time, rather than the older, more able to speak for herself and remember who she was, child.
And I just can't get past the EVRD dogs and what they discovered in the apartment that Madeleine disappeared from. Dogs don't lie - people do!
Oh and another point, fair haired people tend to have their hair go much lighter, not darker in hot climates, but yet again thanks to the parents very weird age progressed pic showing a dark skinned, dark haired Madeleine (who looked about 12 - 14) people now imagine this!
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[edit on 2-5-2010 by destination now]
Nope she is dead, either just after the abduction or when the media circus began...im sure that would panic someone and cause them to kill and dump
the body ASAP. I have always thought the parents were very, very fishy but i honestly haven't looked into the case enough to be more specific. It's
just one of those very uncomfortable feelings you get when watching or listening to them.
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[edit on 2-5-2010 by Solomons]
Originally posted by destination now
Originally posted by Smiggle
I think she is still alive - just my 2 cents, but I dont think the original intention was to harm her. And I think she is growing up under the false belief that she is with people her parent know.
Not that this below has bearing on anything, but just my own thoughts ...
I had a vision of her not that long ago - feeding birds near a big fountain - it was hot and her hair was not as fair, it was darker.)
I'm sorry, but why would you think that? Most children who are abducted by a stranger are dead within 48 hours! Why would this child be different? There has just been so much media spin by the parents in this case that many people seem to be under the fairytale illusion that somehow this child is living the life of a princess in a far away land, when lets face it abducted children usually have a far more horrific fate! It's the parents who have planted this notion of her being taking to Morocco or some such place to be sold to a rich family etc so unless her parents have sold her themselves and know this, I'm sorry but it is most probably fantasy!
Anyway if the child had been taken for this purpose, I think they would have been far more likely to take the younger sister, Amelie who was just 2yrs old at the time, rather than the older, more able to speak for herself and remember who she was, child.
And I just can't get past the EVRD dogs and what they discovered in the apartment that Madeleine disappeared from. Dogs don't lie - people do!
Oh and another point, fair haired people tend to have their hair go much lighter, not darker in hot climates, but yet again thanks to the parents very weird age progressed pic showing a dark skinned, dark haired Madeleine (who looked about 12 - 14) people now imagine this!
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Excuse me. I find your post belittling my contribution. I have not followed this story in the paper with the exception of the first few months it was released. I did not denote the child as a princess, I offered my 'vision' - not for consideration if it meant nothing to you - as for the hair colour, that is what 'I' saw - I have not seen, nor heard, anything regarding what she should look like. The thread heading was a question: Who actually believes Madeleine McCann is still alive?, which I answered as I believe it to be.
I don't believe she's alive. It's the best possible defence for the McCanns (and whoever else might be involved) for people to believe a kidknapper
took her and she could stiil be alive. There was no evidence of an intruder at the holiday apartment.
The statistics (and evidence) are greatly against their story. Stranger kidknappings are extremely rare and missing children are sadly, most likely to have been harmed by family or someone they know. A random sexual perdator is highly unlikely to leave a victim alive. Obviously statistics alone won't prove they did it.
There are plenty of facts and suspicious circumstances that point to the McCanns knowing exactly what happened to their daughter and possibly being responsible.
1)There are the phone calls to UK numbers, Swansea to be precise in the days before the 'kidnap', the Mccanns say they were wrong numbers.
2) All of the people (save one I think) holidaying with the McCanns were doctors and they all left their young children for varying times in their holiday apartments whilst they dined. There have been rumours of 'swinging' type activities and even eyewitness accounts of disturbing conversations between G McCann and one of the group concerning his daughter. Where they all sedating their children? That would explain a willingness to cover for the McCanns. Gerry McCann had been consulted by BBC TV as an expert on the use and detection of sedatives in the past.
3)The McCanns were free to request that Scotland yard investigate the disapearence, instead they have employed a host of private investigators of their choice to no avail.
4) Gordon Brown personally intervened in the McCann case (which is totally unprecedented) and it just so happens that Gerry McCann has been linked to Andrew Brown (Gordon's brother), spokesperson for EDF energy Europe. EDF want to build more nuclear power plants. Gerry McCann is a member of a government quango called COMARE (Committee on Medical Aspects of Radiation in the Environment) which has repeatedly come out in opposition to campaigners who claim that childhood cancers are more prevalent around nuclear power stations.
5) Justine McGuiness, spokesperson for the McCanns who accompanied them in fleeing to England immediately after they were made official suspects, left various documents behind, including photographs establishing a possible connection between Madeleine's disappearance and the banks of the river Vascão, near the Spanish border.
Creepily these documents were said to have 'esoteric' markings all over them.
Portuguse police found that a mobile phone that had phoned the Swansea UK number (the one the McCanns dismissed as a 'wrong number') was also used to make and receive calls in the area indicated in the documents and in the photographs that the Justine McGuiness left under the sofa on the day of the return to England. Justine McGuinnes refuses to talk about anything regarding the McCann case now.
The McCanns had made trips that would match the distance of this location in their hire car. (you know, the one were the cadaver dogs had indicated finds and the McCanns left all the doors open to dry out in the blazing sun).
6) Portuguese police theorised that Madeline was killed and the body then stored in a fridge before being moved else where. Portuguese Catholic preist Father Jose Manuel Pacheco says he was "deceived".
www.dailymail.co.uk...
So the McCanns had private access to a church and the priest there feels he was deceived....Hmmmm.
There is so much dodgy stuff going on with the McCanns and unfortunately everything points to Madeline being dead, accidental or not. Much of the evidence is here:
www.mccannfiles.com...
Even if it was just an accident I feel the McCanns have alot to answer for and a huge amount if they covered it up. They left three young children alone/i] in an apartment whilst they drunk and made merry. That much is undeniable and the rest is debatable and disturbing.
[edit on 2-5-2010 by DrHammondStoat]
The statistics (and evidence) are greatly against their story. Stranger kidknappings are extremely rare and missing children are sadly, most likely to have been harmed by family or someone they know. A random sexual perdator is highly unlikely to leave a victim alive. Obviously statistics alone won't prove they did it.
There are plenty of facts and suspicious circumstances that point to the McCanns knowing exactly what happened to their daughter and possibly being responsible.
1)There are the phone calls to UK numbers, Swansea to be precise in the days before the 'kidnap', the Mccanns say they were wrong numbers.
2) All of the people (save one I think) holidaying with the McCanns were doctors and they all left their young children for varying times in their holiday apartments whilst they dined. There have been rumours of 'swinging' type activities and even eyewitness accounts of disturbing conversations between G McCann and one of the group concerning his daughter. Where they all sedating their children? That would explain a willingness to cover for the McCanns. Gerry McCann had been consulted by BBC TV as an expert on the use and detection of sedatives in the past.
3)The McCanns were free to request that Scotland yard investigate the disapearence, instead they have employed a host of private investigators of their choice to no avail.
4) Gordon Brown personally intervened in the McCann case (which is totally unprecedented) and it just so happens that Gerry McCann has been linked to Andrew Brown (Gordon's brother), spokesperson for EDF energy Europe. EDF want to build more nuclear power plants. Gerry McCann is a member of a government quango called COMARE (Committee on Medical Aspects of Radiation in the Environment) which has repeatedly come out in opposition to campaigners who claim that childhood cancers are more prevalent around nuclear power stations.
5) Justine McGuiness, spokesperson for the McCanns who accompanied them in fleeing to England immediately after they were made official suspects, left various documents behind, including photographs establishing a possible connection between Madeleine's disappearance and the banks of the river Vascão, near the Spanish border.
Creepily these documents were said to have 'esoteric' markings all over them.
Portuguse police found that a mobile phone that had phoned the Swansea UK number (the one the McCanns dismissed as a 'wrong number') was also used to make and receive calls in the area indicated in the documents and in the photographs that the Justine McGuiness left under the sofa on the day of the return to England. Justine McGuinnes refuses to talk about anything regarding the McCann case now.
The McCanns had made trips that would match the distance of this location in their hire car. (you know, the one were the cadaver dogs had indicated finds and the McCanns left all the doors open to dry out in the blazing sun).
6) Portuguese police theorised that Madeline was killed and the body then stored in a fridge before being moved else where. Portuguese Catholic preist Father Jose Manuel Pacheco says he was "deceived".
In the days after Madeleine vanished on May 3, the McCanns, both 39 and devout Catholics, frequently sought refuge at the priest's church. They became so close to Father Pacheco, he gave them the keys to the tiny building so they could go in to pray whenever they liked. However, his friendship with the couple appeared to spectacularly backfire after police became convinced Kate had told him she had killed her daughter during confession. But he has vowed to take whatever she had said to the grave, despite being quizzed by detectives.
www.dailymail.co.uk...
www.dailymail.co.uk...
So the McCanns had private access to a church and the priest there feels he was deceived....Hmmmm.
There is so much dodgy stuff going on with the McCanns and unfortunately everything points to Madeline being dead, accidental or not. Much of the evidence is here:
www.mccannfiles.com...
Even if it was just an accident I feel the McCanns have alot to answer for and a huge amount if they covered it up. They left three young children alone/i] in an apartment whilst they drunk and made merry. That much is undeniable and the rest is debatable and disturbing.
[edit on 2-5-2010 by DrHammondStoat]
reply to post by Smiggle
I am not belittling you! I am just asking why you would think what you do when statistically it's unlikely, not to mention all of the other facets of the case!
And I'm sorry, but to add your "2cents" to a topic that by your own admission you know nothing about just because you "had a vision" is belittling to the other contributors who have thoroughly researched the subject! Fair enough it was in the paranormal section asking remote viewers for their opinions but it's in the current events section and I feel it would be more appropriate that commentators based their opinions on the known facts
Peace to you, but that's my "2 cents"
I am not belittling you! I am just asking why you would think what you do when statistically it's unlikely, not to mention all of the other facets of the case!
And I'm sorry, but to add your "2cents" to a topic that by your own admission you know nothing about just because you "had a vision" is belittling to the other contributors who have thoroughly researched the subject! Fair enough it was in the paranormal section asking remote viewers for their opinions but it's in the current events section and I feel it would be more appropriate that commentators based their opinions on the known facts
Peace to you, but that's my "2 cents"
reply to post by DrHammondStoat
I totally agree, there is so much confusion, lies, deceit and dis-information in this case, I simply cannot believe that the McCanns are telling the truth. Even Gerry said himself that there is so much information out there that no one knows what is true (and he thinks this is a good thing!) Even if they had nothing to do with her death, or concealment, basic facts have been blurred to present the McCanns in the best light, rather than just face the consequences of their actions in leaving their defenseless children on their own.
Smoke and mirrors all the way, but I believe that nothing can be obscured for ever, allegiances change, facts can surface, people can crack, and I think that Kate McCann is probably on the verge of that with her recent musings on her and her family being obliterated in a motorway crash! That in itself tells me she knows her daughter is dead because if she truly believed she could be found she would not be considering killing herself and her remaining family, I mean what would be the point of that if Madeleine was then recovered and had no family to return to!
I totally agree, there is so much confusion, lies, deceit and dis-information in this case, I simply cannot believe that the McCanns are telling the truth. Even Gerry said himself that there is so much information out there that no one knows what is true (and he thinks this is a good thing!) Even if they had nothing to do with her death, or concealment, basic facts have been blurred to present the McCanns in the best light, rather than just face the consequences of their actions in leaving their defenseless children on their own.
Smoke and mirrors all the way, but I believe that nothing can be obscured for ever, allegiances change, facts can surface, people can crack, and I think that Kate McCann is probably on the verge of that with her recent musings on her and her family being obliterated in a motorway crash! That in itself tells me she knows her daughter is dead because if she truly believed she could be found she would not be considering killing herself and her remaining family, I mean what would be the point of that if Madeleine was then recovered and had no family to return to!
Originally posted by destination now
reply to post by Smiggle
I am not belittling you! I am just asking why you would think what you do when statistically it's unlikely, not to mention all of the other facets of the case!
And I'm sorry, but to add your "2cents" to a topic that by your own admission you know nothing about just because you "had a vision" is belittling to the other contributors who have thoroughly researched the subject! Fair enough it was in the paranormal section asking remote viewers for their opinions but it's in the current events section and I feel it would be more appropriate that commentators based their opinions on the known facts
Peace to you, but that's my "2 cents"
Thankyou.
I will take some time to research the case a little further.
In peace.
Smigs
reply to post by Smiggle
Thanks Smiggle, I'm sure you'll find the case interesting, but be warned, there's a heck of a lot of reading!
Enjoy
Thanks Smiggle, I'm sure you'll find the case interesting, but be warned, there's a heck of a lot of reading!
Enjoy
the website is very god im having quite a good read here.
this statemen below is interesting who is 'they'
this statemen below is interesting who is 'they'
It was after she returned to the apartment at 10.00pm that Madeleine was discovered missing. Like virtually everything in the case, there has been much debate and denial about what was actually said when she raised the alarm. Common belief is that she shouted 'They've taken her' and this has caused much debate over why she chose those particular words and who 'They' could be.
reply to post by kerrichin
Very true, that one always bothered me and the fact that Kate McCann still refers to the abductors/people who have taken Madeleine/People who know where she is! It's always plural, yet there is no evidence of even one unknown person in that apartment and the "fact" that according to the McCanns and other friends timelines, "they" only had a 5 minute window of opportunity to get into the apartment, take Madeleine and get back out and away, whilst not being seen or heard by anyone! (except one of the tapas friends Jane Tanner, whose description has changed so often that her sighting is just not credible (and Robert Murat is allegedly suing her this now for her wrongful identification of him)
Very true, that one always bothered me and the fact that Kate McCann still refers to the abductors/people who have taken Madeleine/People who know where she is! It's always plural, yet there is no evidence of even one unknown person in that apartment and the "fact" that according to the McCanns and other friends timelines, "they" only had a 5 minute window of opportunity to get into the apartment, take Madeleine and get back out and away, whilst not being seen or heard by anyone! (except one of the tapas friends Jane Tanner, whose description has changed so often that her sighting is just not credible (and Robert Murat is allegedly suing her this now for her wrongful identification of him)
reply to post by destination now
yeah i know, surly if your child was missing and you suspected some one tookthem you would say 'someone' or 'who' has took my child.
also another thing that bothers me why only take the one child, especially if, like is believed they abducted her for sex slave or selling to a wealthy family then why take only her why not all or both girls, more money in the eyes of the criminal.
does not make sense at all i really do feel there is something fishy about the parents.
i remember seeing on the news that the mother was more concerned about seeing the pope than finding her daughter, and all she seemed to do is go to the church and pray.
surely she would be out tying to find her daughter o something, and on that note she always seemed so impecable and tidy, even her hair was spotless.
im not a mother but ive seen other mothers who have lost children or who have been aducted and they dont care about there appearence, just finding there children.
take holly and jessica, or sarah payne.
yeah i know, surly if your child was missing and you suspected some one tookthem you would say 'someone' or 'who' has took my child.
also another thing that bothers me why only take the one child, especially if, like is believed they abducted her for sex slave or selling to a wealthy family then why take only her why not all or both girls, more money in the eyes of the criminal.
does not make sense at all i really do feel there is something fishy about the parents.
i remember seeing on the news that the mother was more concerned about seeing the pope than finding her daughter, and all she seemed to do is go to the church and pray.
surely she would be out tying to find her daughter o something, and on that note she always seemed so impecable and tidy, even her hair was spotless.
im not a mother but ive seen other mothers who have lost children or who have been aducted and they dont care about there appearence, just finding there children.
take holly and jessica, or sarah payne.
The 48 questions that remained unanswered Correio da Manhã (No online link, currently appears in paper edition only)
Investigation - What the PJ inspectors wanted to know
03 August 2008
Thanks to 'astro' for translation)
When she became an arguida, Kate stopped talking to the inspectors
September 7, 2007. Kate McCann entered the Polícia Judiciária in Portimão in the morning and the questioning extended into the evening. She was heard as a witness, but the tension in the air was evident. For the first time, people were concentrated at the PJ building’s door and murmured words of mistrust regarding the couple.
On that day, CM had reported that the dogs had detected cadaver odour on Maddie's mother's clothes. A piece of evidence that the authorities intended to use as a trump, during a questioning that only changed course on the next day, after the PJ failed to see their doubts clarified.
Kate began by replying all the questions, but when she was made an arguida, she stopped talking. She went silent, in the company of her lawyer, and accepted all the insinuations in a provocative manner. Less than 48 hours later, Kate and Gerry travel to England with the twins, leaving the investigation into the disappearance of their daughter, who meanwhile had become four, behind.
They later guaranteed that they would return if necessary – which they never did, although they were never formally requested to return – and they are no longer arguidos for the suspected involvement in concealing the child's body. Today, CM reveals the 48 questions that Kate did not want to answer during the interrogation and which reflect the investigators' doubts. More than a year after Maddie disappeared, many of these questions remain unanswered.
Jeers for the McCann couple
The day that Kate and Gerry went to the PJ's offices in Portimão marked a turnaround in the relationship between the local people and the couple: the curious bystanders that spent the day on the street jeered at Maddie's mother and father, mainly criticising the "absence of visible suffering" from Kate. The foreign press also attended in great numbers.
The Judiciária's 48 questions that Kate did not answer
1 On the 3rd of May 2007, at around 10 p.m., when you entered the apartment, what did you see, what did you do, where did you search, what did you handle?
2 Did you search in the couple's bedroom closet? (said she would not reply)
3 (Two photographs of her bedroom's closet are exhibited) Can you describe its contents?
4 Why are the curtains in front of the side window, behind the sofa (photograph is exhibited) ruffled? Did someone pass behind that sofa?
5 How long did the search that you made in the apartment after detecting the disappearance of your daughter Madeleine take?
6 Why did you say straight away that Madeleine had been abducted?
7 Presuming that Madeleine had been abducted, why did you leave the twins alone at home while you went to the Tapas to raise the alarm? Even because the supposed abductor could still be inside the apartment.
8 Why didn't you ask the twins at that moment what had happened to their sister, or why didn't you ask them at a later point in time?
9 When you raised the alarm at the Tapas, what exactly did you say and what were the words?
10 What happened after you raised the alarm at the Tapas?
11 Why did you go to warn your friends instead of calling out from the balcony?
12 Who contacted the authorities?
13 Who participated in the searches?
14 Did anyone outside of the group learn about Maddie's disappearance during the following minutes?
15 Did any neighbour offer you help after the disappearance?
16 What does the expression "we let her down" mean?
17 Did Jane mention to you that she had seen a man with a child that night?
18 How were the authorities contacted and which police force was called?
19 During the searches, and already with the police present, in what locations was Maddie searched for, how and in what manner?
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Investigation - What the PJ inspectors wanted to know
03 August 2008
Thanks to 'astro' for translation)
When she became an arguida, Kate stopped talking to the inspectors
September 7, 2007. Kate McCann entered the Polícia Judiciária in Portimão in the morning and the questioning extended into the evening. She was heard as a witness, but the tension in the air was evident. For the first time, people were concentrated at the PJ building’s door and murmured words of mistrust regarding the couple.
On that day, CM had reported that the dogs had detected cadaver odour on Maddie's mother's clothes. A piece of evidence that the authorities intended to use as a trump, during a questioning that only changed course on the next day, after the PJ failed to see their doubts clarified.
Kate began by replying all the questions, but when she was made an arguida, she stopped talking. She went silent, in the company of her lawyer, and accepted all the insinuations in a provocative manner. Less than 48 hours later, Kate and Gerry travel to England with the twins, leaving the investigation into the disappearance of their daughter, who meanwhile had become four, behind.
They later guaranteed that they would return if necessary – which they never did, although they were never formally requested to return – and they are no longer arguidos for the suspected involvement in concealing the child's body. Today, CM reveals the 48 questions that Kate did not want to answer during the interrogation and which reflect the investigators' doubts. More than a year after Maddie disappeared, many of these questions remain unanswered.
Jeers for the McCann couple
The day that Kate and Gerry went to the PJ's offices in Portimão marked a turnaround in the relationship between the local people and the couple: the curious bystanders that spent the day on the street jeered at Maddie's mother and father, mainly criticising the "absence of visible suffering" from Kate. The foreign press also attended in great numbers.
The Judiciária's 48 questions that Kate did not answer
1 On the 3rd of May 2007, at around 10 p.m., when you entered the apartment, what did you see, what did you do, where did you search, what did you handle?
2 Did you search in the couple's bedroom closet? (said she would not reply)
3 (Two photographs of her bedroom's closet are exhibited) Can you describe its contents?
4 Why are the curtains in front of the side window, behind the sofa (photograph is exhibited) ruffled? Did someone pass behind that sofa?
5 How long did the search that you made in the apartment after detecting the disappearance of your daughter Madeleine take?
6 Why did you say straight away that Madeleine had been abducted?
7 Presuming that Madeleine had been abducted, why did you leave the twins alone at home while you went to the Tapas to raise the alarm? Even because the supposed abductor could still be inside the apartment.
8 Why didn't you ask the twins at that moment what had happened to their sister, or why didn't you ask them at a later point in time?
9 When you raised the alarm at the Tapas, what exactly did you say and what were the words?
10 What happened after you raised the alarm at the Tapas?
11 Why did you go to warn your friends instead of calling out from the balcony?
12 Who contacted the authorities?
13 Who participated in the searches?
14 Did anyone outside of the group learn about Maddie's disappearance during the following minutes?
15 Did any neighbour offer you help after the disappearance?
16 What does the expression "we let her down" mean?
17 Did Jane mention to you that she had seen a man with a child that night?
18 How were the authorities contacted and which police force was called?
19 During the searches, and already with the police present, in what locations was Maddie searched for, how and in what manner?
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(48 Questions Continued)
20 Why didn't the twins wake up during that search, or when they went to the upper floor?
21 Who did you call after the facts?
22 Did you call SKY News?
23 Did you know about the danger of calling the media, because that could influence the abductor?
24 Did you request the presence of a priest?
25 How was Madeleine's face publicised, with a photograph, or other media?
26 Is it true that during the search you remained seated on Maddie's bed without moving?
27 How did you behave that evening?
28 Did you manage to sleep?
29 Before the trip to Portugal, did you comment on a bad feeling or a bad premonition?
30 What was Madeleine's behaviour?
31 Did Maddie suffer of any disease or did she take any kind of medication?
32 What was the relationship like between Madeleine and her siblings?
33 What was the relationship like between Madeleine and her siblings, her friends and her colleagues at school?
34 Concerning your professional life, in how many and in which hospitals have you worked?
35 What is your medical specialty?
36 Did you work by shifts, in emergency rooms or in other departments?
37 Did you work on a daily basis?
38 Did you stop working at a certain point in time? Why?
39 Do your twin children have difficulty in falling asleep, are they unruly and does that upset you?
40 Is it true that at certain times you were desperate over your children's attitude and that left you upset?
41 Is it true that in England you considered the possibility of handing over Madeleine's guardianship to a relative?
42 In England, did you give your children medication? What type of medication?
43 Within the process, you were shown films of cynotechnical inspection of forensic character, where the dogs can be seen marking indications of human cadaver odour and equally human blood traces, and only of human origin, as well as all the comments that were made by the responsible expert. After the visualisation, and after cadaver odour was signalled in your bedroom next to the wardrobe and behind the sofa that was pushed against the living room window, you said that you could not explain anything apart from what you had already said?
44 You said that you could not explain anything apart from what you had already said, concerning the marking of human blood behind the sofa by the detection dog?
45 You said that you could not explain anything apart from what you had already said, concerning the marking of cadaver odour in the boot of the vehicle that you rented a month after the disappearance?
46 You said that you could not explain anything apart from what you had already said, concerning the marking of human blood in the boot of the vehicle?
47 You said that you could not explain anything apart from what you had already said, upon being confronted with the result of the collection of Maddie's DNA, which was analysed by a British lab, behind the sofa and inside the vehicle's boot?
48 Did you have any responsibility or intervention in the disappearance of your daughter?
The question that she answered
Are you aware of the fact that by not answering these questions you may compromise the investigation, which is trying to find out what happened to your daughter? She said "Yes, if the investigation thinks so".
From Mccannfiles.com www.mccannfiles.com...
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20 Why didn't the twins wake up during that search, or when they went to the upper floor?
21 Who did you call after the facts?
22 Did you call SKY News?
23 Did you know about the danger of calling the media, because that could influence the abductor?
24 Did you request the presence of a priest?
25 How was Madeleine's face publicised, with a photograph, or other media?
26 Is it true that during the search you remained seated on Maddie's bed without moving?
27 How did you behave that evening?
28 Did you manage to sleep?
29 Before the trip to Portugal, did you comment on a bad feeling or a bad premonition?
30 What was Madeleine's behaviour?
31 Did Maddie suffer of any disease or did she take any kind of medication?
32 What was the relationship like between Madeleine and her siblings?
33 What was the relationship like between Madeleine and her siblings, her friends and her colleagues at school?
34 Concerning your professional life, in how many and in which hospitals have you worked?
35 What is your medical specialty?
36 Did you work by shifts, in emergency rooms or in other departments?
37 Did you work on a daily basis?
38 Did you stop working at a certain point in time? Why?
39 Do your twin children have difficulty in falling asleep, are they unruly and does that upset you?
40 Is it true that at certain times you were desperate over your children's attitude and that left you upset?
41 Is it true that in England you considered the possibility of handing over Madeleine's guardianship to a relative?
42 In England, did you give your children medication? What type of medication?
43 Within the process, you were shown films of cynotechnical inspection of forensic character, where the dogs can be seen marking indications of human cadaver odour and equally human blood traces, and only of human origin, as well as all the comments that were made by the responsible expert. After the visualisation, and after cadaver odour was signalled in your bedroom next to the wardrobe and behind the sofa that was pushed against the living room window, you said that you could not explain anything apart from what you had already said?
44 You said that you could not explain anything apart from what you had already said, concerning the marking of human blood behind the sofa by the detection dog?
45 You said that you could not explain anything apart from what you had already said, concerning the marking of cadaver odour in the boot of the vehicle that you rented a month after the disappearance?
46 You said that you could not explain anything apart from what you had already said, concerning the marking of human blood in the boot of the vehicle?
47 You said that you could not explain anything apart from what you had already said, upon being confronted with the result of the collection of Maddie's DNA, which was analysed by a British lab, behind the sofa and inside the vehicle's boot?
48 Did you have any responsibility or intervention in the disappearance of your daughter?
The question that she answered
Are you aware of the fact that by not answering these questions you may compromise the investigation, which is trying to find out what happened to your daughter? She said "Yes, if the investigation thinks so".
From Mccannfiles.com www.mccannfiles.com...
[edit on 3-5-2010 by destination now]
6 Why did you say straight away that Madeleine had been abducted?
7 Presuming that Madeleine had been abducted, why did you leave the twins alone at home while you went to the Tapas to raise the alarm? Even because the supposed abductor could still be inside the apartment.
these to questions stood out to me and they are very good questions.
the last one is the best why would she leavethe other two if she was so sure that maddie had been abducted, surely you would have afear they would come back for the other 2 or they might still be there.
30 What was Madeleine's behaviour?
31 Did Maddie suffer of any disease or did she take any kind of medication?
32 What was the relationship like between Madeleine and her siblings?
33 What was the relationship like between Madeleine and her siblings, her friends and her colleagues at school?
why would she not answer these questions they are simple enough, did she not know if she played well with other children? did she not know or care?
34 Concerning your professional life, in how many and in which hospitals have you worked?
35 What is your medical specialty?
36 Did you work by shifts, in emergency rooms or in other departments?
37 Did you work on a daily basis?
38 Did you stop working at a certain point in time? Why?
what would she have to hide about her medical history and job history.
these are such unsinister questions shes ade sinister from not answering because people now ask what has she got to hide
[edit on 3/5/2010 by kerrichin]
reply to post by kerrichin
You're right all of these questions are very straightforward, and I know that if it was me I'd be answering all of them, without hesitation.
Many of the McCanns supporters have claimed that she wouldn't answer because she already had given answers in informal interviews (though no record exists of this happening) but my view is I wouldn't care how many times I had to answer the questions if I thought it would help. Others have said the police were cruel to ask such questions, but in reality, the parents/relatives/close friends are the first to be questioned in these situations, and where they are innocent, have no problem doing so as they know it will eliminate them from the inquiry and the police can focus on the investigation.
I think the problem is that they told so many lies that they probably couldn't remember what they had said previously and kate knew that she would probably incriminate herself, so she decided to exercise her right to remain silent - not exactly the actions of a distraught mother who would do anything to try and find her daughter!
The tagline of their marketing campaign is "no stone unturned" sorry but that just grates on me when I think how Kate McCann refused to answer any of those questions for the investigators.
You're right all of these questions are very straightforward, and I know that if it was me I'd be answering all of them, without hesitation.
Many of the McCanns supporters have claimed that she wouldn't answer because she already had given answers in informal interviews (though no record exists of this happening) but my view is I wouldn't care how many times I had to answer the questions if I thought it would help. Others have said the police were cruel to ask such questions, but in reality, the parents/relatives/close friends are the first to be questioned in these situations, and where they are innocent, have no problem doing so as they know it will eliminate them from the inquiry and the police can focus on the investigation.
I think the problem is that they told so many lies that they probably couldn't remember what they had said previously and kate knew that she would probably incriminate herself, so she decided to exercise her right to remain silent - not exactly the actions of a distraught mother who would do anything to try and find her daughter!
The tagline of their marketing campaign is "no stone unturned" sorry but that just grates on me when I think how Kate McCann refused to answer any of those questions for the investigators.
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