The Coffee Party, ANOTHER FRAUD BY OBAMA SUPPORTERS

reply to post by ProjectJimmy


Yep swearing and all caps, yep that's me. Don't like it, find some other thread to try and derail.

Who brought up the left right paradigm? That would be you.

I was attacking the movement being used to supplant the TPM.

I can see you are here to try and derail. Trying to start the left right fight?

Won't work, either address the accusation I have made about the Coffee movement or go to another thread and try to derail it.

Comprende Provocateur?

Edit to add- if you do not know what supplant means ereugo

Main Entry: sup·plant
Pronunciation: \sə-ˈplant\
Function: transitive verb
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French supplanter, from Latin supplantare to trip up, cause to stumble, from sub- + planta sole of the foot — more at place
Date: 14th century

1 : to supersede (another) especially by force or treachery
2 a (1) obsolete : uproot (2) : to eradicate and supply a substitute for b : to take the place of and serve as a substitute for especially by reason of superior excellence or power
synonyms see replace

— sup·plan·ta·tion \(ˌ)sə-ˌplan-ˈtā-shən\ noun

— sup·plant·er \sə-ˈplan-tər\ noun

[edit on 3/5/2010 by endisnighe]

Originally posted by endisnighe
reply to post by Lilitu

 

So you think she is not an operative trying to supplant the TPM? Did you go to all the links. What say you to the OP?

I think she is a patriot exercising her inalienable right to freedom of association.

Oh! I'm sorry! I was supposed to keep it simple wasn't I? My bad.

reply to post by Lilitu


Nice condescension, just wanted to make sure where you stood.

reply to post by endisnighe


Wow mate, paranoid much?

I addressed your points, Park is not a plant by President Obama, and I support the movement. You yourself brought up the Republicans and Democrats in your OP, so don't try to worm your way out of that by pinning it on me.

If the CPM supplants the TPM in the American political arena, in my opinion that is great! Yes, I do believe that's part of what the CPM was designed to do, but by other citizens not by a political party.

I believe the TPM is toxic to the political climate in the United States, it is radicalizing people and feeding on pure blind and uninformed anger. That is the opposite of what needs to be done in the US right now, people need to come together in a civil and informed manner to make the changes that need to be made in government, not the poisonous insanity that is being spewed by the TPM.

For the first time since the Civil Rights Movement absolutely horrible ideas like voter tests and disenfranchisement are being batted around by the TPM. These are the very kind of ideas that many in your country fought and died to put to rest.

The TPM is a major step backwards for the United States, thank god the CPM is trying to stop them and return civility to the political landscape!

With that however, I'm done with this thread, you are just going to twist my words and believe whatever you want, no matter how blind and disturbed the thoughts are.

reply to post by ProjectJimmy


Thanks for participating.

So you agree this was a move to try and supplant the movement.

Thanks for admitting it, a lot of people would not do that. At least you were honest and above board with that.

THEN of course you dwelled to what you are really doing on this thread is to attack the TPM once again.

Thanks for showing EXACTLY what the OP is all about.

The coffee movement has nothing to do with addressing the concerns of the TPM. Just as you have just iterated so perfectly in your comment.

You people are so TRANSPARENT, thanks for playing.

edit to add your quote-

Originally posted by ProjectJimmy
reply to post by endisnighe

 

Wow mate, paranoid much?

I addressed your points, Park is not a plant by President Obama, and I support the movement. You yourself brought up the Republicans and Democrats in your OP, so don't try to worm your way out of that by pinning it on me.

If the CPM supplants the TPM in the American political arena, in my opinion that is great! Yes, I do believe that's part of what the CPM was designed to do, but by other citizens not by a political party.

I believe the TPM is toxic to the political climate in the United States, it is radicalizing people and feeding on pure blind and uninformed anger. That is the opposite of what needs to be done in the US right now, people need to come together in a civil and informed manner to make the changes that need to be made in government, not the poisonous insanity that is being spewed by the TPM.

For the first time since the Civil Rights Movement absolutely horrible ideas like voter tests and disenfranchisement are being batted around by the TPM. These are the very kind of ideas that many in your country fought and died to put to rest.

The TPM is a major step backwards for the United States, thank god the CPM is trying to stop them and return civility to the political landscape!

With that however, I'm done with this thread, you are just going to twist my words and believe whatever you want, no matter how blind and disturbed the thoughts are.

[edit on 3/6/2010 by endisnighe]

reply to post by endisnighe


Time for dems and republicans to be replaced with honest Americans.
You say it yourself.

The coffee party is honest Americans.
What have you got against them?

Notice the coffee party isn't gathering supporters by trying to demonize any one individual.

Now what about the Tea Parties?

Politics, not personalities, got us here.

Discussion, debate and some pretty great answers will get us out.

Hate mongering digs us in deeper.

reply to post by endisnighe


Thanks for participating...
Thanks for admitting...
Thanks for showing...
Thanks for playing...

For someone so thankful, you sure sound miserable.

reply to post by endisnighe


END this is very funny to me...

At least I think it is a joke of sorts, IMO I think TTPM has been jacked. Should call it Dick's
Army - you can't very well be mad at people pointing that out.



The GOP did a whack job, hell Obama did a whack job in much the same way...

Now TTPM is getting double whacked, anyhow TTPM is a vote for GOP, lets call a spade a spade, I assume the opposite conversion for the Coffee whatever the heck,,, so nothing has really changed

We are screwed either way, so be happy

Almonds and coconut wrapped in a dog squirt is not Almond Joy

Edit I see you are mad, think about it, the fight continues, don't have so much faith
in one incarnation. You should be investing so much and taking it so hard, politics
is the cheapest of pastimes bring back the humor you had on that other thread










[edit on 6-3-2010 by Janky Red]

[edit on 6-3-2010 by Janky Red]

reply to post by endisnighe


Ya know..... it's bad enough that they ruined Tea with the Tea Party going all uber-neo-ultra-right... now they are going to ruin my beverage of choice (and I know a lot about Coffee) by having this farce.

Thank you EIN for exposing a group that could have done irreparable damage to the questioning coffee drinkers of ATS..

reply to post by vkey08


Thanks for the compliment and comment.

You know when I saw this, my first thought was, no wonder why I do not like coffee.

Originally posted by endisnighe

Anyone that denigrates the motives behind the TPM and backs this move are OBAMA OPERATIVES!

With that said, I'm going to admit it here and now. I was personally picked by the POTUS, Barack Hussein Obama to come here and support this movement and oppose the TEA party.

You caught me endisnighe, well done. Me and the other 69 million operatives working in the USSA (United Socialist States of America).

All kidding aside, you've lost your marbles. Citizens acting on their beliefs, especially opposing the TPM, are not always secret operatives. I'm here in the US, I'm a private citizen who has opposing views to the TPM, I'm not really a scary, secret operative. Not everyone agrees with you, I figured you'd see that by now.

reply to post by links234


I know, I was going to change that part of the OP. I was a little sauce when I wrote this and I was quite pissed when I connected the founder of this to the Obama Campaign.

Actually, you are part of the conspiracy.

I wish I could change the OP, oh well.

But did you see the connections made to the Obama camp. And do you not find it condescending and totally a supplant rich name?

reply to post by endisnighe


I saw the connections, which doesn't suprise me. A politically active individual becoming even more of an activist. It's been happening to me since before the '08 elections, although, I don't actively call people or go door to door...yet. I really just try to refute claims I come across with facts or try to argue my opinion in a well-thought out manner. Denying ignorance.

I knew right away, weeks ago, when I saw the name 'coffee party' on huffpost is was an almost direct contradiction to the TPM without having to read another word of it. I would venture a guess to say this was just an individual like me, upset that the TPM was getting so much press and derailing what I felt was a sure-fire win so far as health care reform goes.

Also, glad to see you recognize my status as part of the conspiracy!

I've been trying to follow this thread but I have to say I'm a bit confused. It seems clear to me that the TPM is advocating a position which was once the main position of most of America, that of limited Government and maximum individual freedom. The CPM seems to be advocating the same statist, controlling philosophy both the republican and democratic parties are espousing. Am I missing something? If you look at both platform, of which I am part of neither btw, the CPM advocates increased, or continual involvement of centralized government over anything and everything, the same line the Obama used, Government is the solution not the problem. The TPM says the Government is the problem not the solution. Now either you believe individual liberty is everything, or you believe individual liberty is nothing. The two movements seem to outline that fairly clearly. If you support freedom, you're a fan of the TPM, if you support slavery you're a fan of the CPM, kinda cut and dry really, no need to get all heated.

reply to post by gaborn415


Yes, I was hot when I wrote this. Plus I got someone in and tried to derail me. Which they did quite well.

You broke it down quite well.

Thanks for the comment.

I did a small research on this new person call "Annebel Park" and the "coffee party" I came to the conclusion that is nothing more than another fraud like the Tea parties has become after the interest money was flowing.

It seems that Mrs. Annebel Park is not such a flawless politician wannabe.

No only she was in the ranks of bashing and putting down the original Tea parties call the members and supporters names, "saying that the tea party movement are "dangerous" and calls them "teabaggers" just like the rest of the hostile progressives." but most of the leaders in the Coffee party are actually from the ObamaforAmerica group they even had produced videos for him, this group has Pelosi, Reaid, and Obama all behind it, they have all the names in their facebook page unless they took it off.

Beware of wolves in sheep's clothes, is nothing but a contra propaganda against the Tea parties, in America is not such thing as honest politician backers anymore and neither honest politicians at all

reply to post by marg6043


Thanks marg for the extra info. I knew it the instant I started research on it.

I back the initial movement of the TPM and I still back their original tenets of smaller government, reducing spending, lower taxes, transparency and reducing corruption in government.

We have seen the Coffee Movement is for

Destroying the TPM, bigger government, pushing for higher taxes, no transparency, more corruption in government, and more lies.

Thank you for your comment and research.

I wish everyone would do the same. RESEARCH.

reply to post by endisnighe


This group is actually gaining popularity because it goes against the original Tea parties, also the promoters are very good with words and are giving to the people what they want to hear.

Sounds familiar?

reply to post by marg6043

Hope and Change?

Here is the ROPE and CHAINS people. I will just repost another comment on this thread-

Originally posted by gaborn415
I've been trying to follow this thread but I have to say I'm a bit confused. It seems clear to me that the TPM is advocating a position which was once the main position of most of America, that of limited Government and maximum individual freedom. The CPM seems to be advocating the same statist, controlling philosophy both the republican and democratic parties are espousing. Am I missing something? If you look at both platform, of which I am part of neither btw, the CPM advocates increased, or continual involvement of centralized government over anything and everything, the same line the Obama used, Government is the solution not the problem. The TPM says the Government is the problem not the solution. Now either you believe individual liberty is everything, or you believe individual liberty is nothing. The two movements seem to outline that fairly clearly. If you support freedom, you're a fan of the TPM, if you support slavery you're a fan of the CPM, kinda cut and dry really, no need to get all heated.

Originally posted by endisnighe
We have seen the Coffee Movement is for

Destroying the TPM, bigger government, pushing for higher taxes, no transparency, more corruption in government, and more lies.

You're half right.

I thought we already went over this? No conspiracy, that is exactly what the Coffee Party has been all about the whole time...tell ya what, next time some progressive group or individual does something just ask me. You can't seem to figure it out without 'research'.

"Sometimes, things are exactly as they seem."