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Originally posted by infinite
Off the topic, this thread wasn't created so we can insult jews and freemasons. The protocols have created anti-semitism and anti-masonic views throughout Europe and the world, anymore of racist views on this thread, i will have it closed.
Please don't ruin a good thread
Originally posted by Djarums
As usual people on here prove that they are incapable of debating anything of this sort without throwing in their personal anti-(insert group here) views.
I'm saying this one last time. If you can't discuss these kinds of topics without throwing in your personal private views of hating other people then please keep your mouths shut and stay off this site.
This thread was an analysis of a literary work and perhaps an inquiry into who actually wrote it. Instead you have turned it into you attacking and me defending the Jewish religion and its principles. I'm not interested in debating this with you here and sidetracking the topic. As I said before and as you ignored before: If you wish to debate this you may u2u me and I will share the actual meaning of such things with you. You lack any knowledge of the Jewish religion other than hate sites that people like you consider "authorities". I'm showing myself as willing to help you with your inadequacy but instead you're insistent on using other sites to disprove my firsthand translations. That's fine. I'm not ruining this thread to fight your ignorance. Honestly, if your belief is that followers of Judaism believe that they are free from all sins then you probably aren't worth debating with anyways.
Think of it this way: if this magic prayer you refer to frees them from all sins in the next year too, well then why do they have to say it every year? Shouldn't they be covered from last year's prayer? Oh I forgot, there wasn't any factual basis in what you said to begin with.
[edit on 6-20-2004 by Djarums]
Originally posted by Fennomaniac
I have jewish blood from my mother and my father is israelian arab. Hole my life I have been tryin' to find me, who I am, if I can't be a jewish arabchristian (is it even possible???) so I have chosen the most loving and emphatic personality and trying to follow the bible, believing in the Word and having "sapatti" in finnish, jewish holiday uknow...
The protocols of the zions....
Who wrote it?? It doesn't matter like you have proven..
Is it true??? well if you know personally a lot of jewish people who are trying to take over the world, it might have some base, but I doubt it.
Why don't we discuss, how the germans and austrian are trying to take the world because of Hitler.. Or French people because of napoleon, or spaniards and eglishmen.. they defenately had something going on in the 16th century..
But still... because some people who don't even have the support of the jewish people you know and no prove that jews are trying control us and might not have even been jewish, you are saying, that jewish ARE trying to be the head of the world, make every gentile to come poor etc.
You are just trying to blame someone.. If there's no conspiracy, humans "create" one, if there's no God, we create one, if there's no jewish doing Satan's work, you guys create one..
Originally posted by infinite
Now, here is an interesting thought, are the so called "jews" behind the protocols? im not talking about normal jews, but people who claim that they are?
this is a closed thread that spoke about this
Link
Originally posted by Djarums
AVF, you make many valid points in your post and i'd like to address them. I'll do so without any "attitude" so mojom doesn't have a fit.
Originally posted by Djarums
As for my comments on you lacking knowledge of the Jewish religion, well I stand by that comment. You showed me that you didn't understand the prayer you quoted, at all. I didn't quote it initially, you did. Again that is of no fault of your own personally. I don't believe that by using my firsthand knowledge to criticize thirdhand analyses of this religion I am being close minded or bigoted. If you were a chemist and I was a layman in that field, I would have to admit that you know more because you have firsthand experience in it. For you to use an incorrect translation of a language I speak fluently to prove a point to me and refute my firsthand translation as ignorance makes me wonder what point you actually were trying to make.
Originally posted by avflf
The Kol Nidre I quoted