reply to post by Beancounter72
Beancounter, I'd fact-check yourself before accusing others of writing disinfo.
Let's see, I'll just focus on the parts of your post involving the airplanes---
The hijacked airplanes were not ALLOWED to wander about for an hour and a half. Depends on how you interpret 'allowed'.
Someone, somewhere on this Board used that term, "wander". Have you EVER looked at the actual timeline? Ever looked at the ground tracks of all
four airplanes? It's available, to everyone with access to the Web.
So, here are the facts:
AAL 11. Hijacked at 0814 EDT (all times EDT). Impact at 0846. That is 32 minutes, by my math. Or, 'about' a half-hour.
AA 175 is next. The actual time is not certain, between 0842 and 0846. Impact at 0903. 21 minutes, tops.
AA 77 --- 0856 when the transponder turned off, it likely began to alter course shortly after. Impact at 0937. 41 minutes.
UA 93. 0928, impact 1003 (per its onboard clock, per FDR, but actual radar contact lost by FAA's clocks was 1006. 38 minutes.
These are the facts. WHO came up with the "wandering for an hour and a half" nonsense??? Not you, of course....but it SOUNDS good to other
"truthers", and just gets exaggerated. So, it spreads as an 'urban legend' (which, BTW, describes a lot of the "truther" memes).
The fact is that jets from the nearest based were NOT scrambled while jets from further away were
Read the timeline.
...and some of them were sent in the wrong direction.
Yes, due to the confusion in communications, betrween various agencies. NORAD was geared up for external
Now, here it is you, it seems, with the hyperbole, and not a lick of truth:
...then those components ie. the titanium engine parts, the steel wings, must still be there, right?
"steel wings"? Surely, you didn't really mean that? I mean, I hope you take some time to learn how the wings are designed, constructed and what
they're made of. (Hint: If you walk out under an airplnae wing, and stick a magnet to it, it WILL NOT stick...)
Same with your miosconception regarding how the engines are constructed, and what titanium is. Ever seen photos of a disaassemled jet engine? It is
made up of a dozen or so (depends on engine) compressor blades, attached to a hub, and turbines. Sometimes the components are cast, at the factory,
as one piece, other times the individual blades are each separate, and attached to the center hub. There is a bit of 'play' built in to the design,
so that they adjust to differing airflows.
(When you walk around a jet, and the wind is blowing, the engines will 'windmill' --- and you can hear the blades tinkling as the engine
ALL of those separate pieces BROKE APART in the tremendous force of impact.
Oh, and titanium? Popular misconception is that it's strong...it isn't. It is strong for its weight, and has a very high melting point. It is
better (and slightly stronger) than aluminum alloys, but steel is much, much stronger (and heavier, which is why airplanes aren't built with it).
Titanium is better than aluminum, except is is WAY too expensive.
If there's any disinfo here it's from you.
What cell of the Mossad do you belong to?
That's just rude, and uncalled for (and against T&C).
And I just wrote all that work in the wrong thread
....sorry everyone, but I'm letting it stay. Staff can decide.
Here, more info. A generic high-bypass turbofan diagram:
(The RR RB-211 engine is a 'three-spool' engine...I'll look for one)
This animation is cool, if it works:
An RB-211 (typical) in cutaway:
Isn't learning fun!?
[edit on 5 March 2010 by weedwhacker]