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It Does Matter!

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posted on Mar, 2 2010 @ 08:57 PM

When Obama wrote a book and said he was mentored as a youth by Frank, (Frank Marshall Davis) an avowed Communist,
People said it didn't matter.

When it was discovered that his grandparents, who were strong socialists, sent Obama's mother to a socialist school, and introduced Frank Marshall Davis to young Obama,
People said it didn't matter.

When people found out that he was enrolled as a Muslim child in school and his father and stepfather were both Muslims,
People said it didn't matter.

The last paragraph alone is not yet cast in stone. You and I will write that paragraph. Will it read as above or will it be a happier ending for most of America ? Personally, I like happy endings.

Never before in the history of America have we been confronted with problems so huge that the very existence of our country is in jeopardy. Our biggest enemy is our President and a contingent of politicians in Washington DC .

-Don Henagan


Shortened copy/paste of external material, added 'ex' tags and a link.

[edit on 2/3/10 by masqua]

posted on Mar, 2 2010 @ 09:23 PM
Really, really good thread.

I hope it gets the attention it needs, or we need. I don't know how things could have gone so far astray.

None of the above is a secret, it must be the way it is presented to the sheeple by the media.

What can we do about it?

posted on Mar, 2 2010 @ 09:23 PM
reply to post by WWJFKD

Chain letter?
Keep it going and maybe good things will happen?

When he told us he think's it's important to "spread the wealth".
People said it didn't matter.

When he told us "so, if somebody wants to build a coal plant, they can — it’s just that it will bankrupt them",
People said it didn't matter.

When he told a woman at a health care townhall that maybe taking a pain pill was a better option for her grandmother.
People said it didn't matter.

posted on Mar, 2 2010 @ 09:24 PM
I am not an Obama supporter by ANY means, but.....

I dunno, the whole entire thing posted loses credibility once one starts to find pieces that are untrue.

At the same time, some of the things listed are positive, and why some DID vote for him.

EDIT: An example: "Most liberal" - suggesting that he respects personal liberties....

[edit on 2-3-2010 by LostNemesis]

posted on Mar, 2 2010 @ 09:30 PM
reply to post by pumpkinorange

I like where you are going with this

When Obama became the first President of the United States to accept the position as the head of the UN security council in complete circumvention of the Constitution.
People said it didn't matter

and that one is mine

[edit on 2-3-2010 by WWJFKD]

posted on Mar, 2 2010 @ 09:39 PM
reply to post by LostNemesis

No longer applies due to Mod edit

[edit on 2-3-2010 by WWJFKD]

posted on Mar, 2 2010 @ 09:51 PM
I would like to see the exhaustive list of untruths that were a major part of the campaing as well.

To be more credible links for each and every sentence would gain a huge following.

posted on Mar, 2 2010 @ 10:02 PM
reply to post by WWJFKD

Very nice ... a simple google search of "People said it didn’t matter…" or of a couple of those paragraphs will reveal provenance.

Citing sources, not only to give proper credit to the authors but to allow folks to judge provenance, also matters.

Other than that, nice little bit of political hackery.

posted on Mar, 2 2010 @ 10:05 PM
Hate to tell you but half of that quasi hate filled rhetoric doesn't matter.

And no, I didn't vote for him.

posted on Mar, 2 2010 @ 10:49 PM
reply to post by WWJFKD

Obama's step father labelled him a muslim? And? How is it his fault? We dont choose what families we are raised in or what circumstances we come through during our childhood so you cannot paint that as a negative aspect of him being president. I could not say bobby Jindal is unfit to be president because well his parents are connected to Hindu Indians and were not christians. At the end of the day his judgements and actions as an adult and politician matter more to me than his childhood circumstances. Arguing that Obama's 'childhood' matters is a really low blow. Instead of looking to the man and his actions as an adult, politician, you have to go ahead and make something out of childhood situations that were beyond his control. To me it is rather pathetic to go into that road.

Also, Obama being muslim? How is he muslim? Isnt religion a choice in this country? By choice Obama is a christian and conservatives like yourself here agreed when you decided to complain about his 'extreme church and pastor' . Its his choice what religion he is. You have no standing what so ever labelling him any other religion. I have no standing labelling you as a muslim because thats not your choice of religion. For all the crys and whining about freedom from you fellas, he can't decide for himself what religion he is?

Socialist school? How was his school socialist? Do you have evidence as to how his school is especially socialist? Is his school socialist because its a public school??

The truth is it doesnt matter to the rest of the world. It doesnt matter to most of america. The only people it matters to are the bigots who can't seem to be critical beyond their own personal issues with the president.

[edit on 2-3-2010 by Southern Guardian]

posted on Mar, 3 2010 @ 06:24 AM
Is there something in the Constitution that says that the President has to be Christian? Just wondering why people bring up the Muslim thing all the time?

Oh, is it because you think the Great Conflagration is on the horizon after which Christians will defeat the Muslims in holy battle on the fields of Megiddo?

Just wondering...

posted on Mar, 3 2010 @ 08:01 AM
It only matters if people let it matter. I personally would prefer if my president wasn't Muslim, but in the end what really matters are his policies and so far I'm not impressed with Obama's. Hes shown himself to be just another politician once elected and so many are now left feeling taken advantage of because they let themselves believe in the promises that turned out to be lies, the hope that became despair.

The sooner people dislodge their heads from their anuses and realize that when you vote for either of the large political parties you are wasting you are wasting your time the better off we all will be, but sadly as ATS has even shown nobody is down with that, it takes too much brain power and logic.

posted on Mar, 3 2010 @ 11:29 AM
It does matter! You see so many kids being "labeled" and thrown into all these different help groups in public schools. Many of these "problems" are directly related to the influences the child is around. If a 7 year old started spewing Communist propaganda then you can be sure there would be a phone call home to make sure this problem gets sorted out...

posted on Mar, 3 2010 @ 05:25 PM
Here's what I get when I google for "I will stand with them (Muslims) should the political winds shift in an ugly direction”.

Let's look at them one-at-a-time:
"I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites."-Truth!
This is an accurate quote from the introduction to Dreams from My Father. The book chronicles Obama's experience as the son of an African father and an American mother.
"I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race."-Fiction!
This quote does not exist in either of Obama's books.
"There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white."-Truth!
This is a quote from Dreams from My Father. It it in a section in which Obama describes a job interview with a man in Chicago. Race had been a part of their discussion and the full quote is, "There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white---he'd said himself that was a problem."
"It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names."-Truth!
This one is also from Dreams from My Father. It is from a section when Obama was a college student and wrestling with his identity including as an African-American. The quote describes his observation of what was required among his fellow students.
"I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa, that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, Dubois and Mandela."-Truth!
This is from Dreams from my Father. The more complete quote is, ""Yes, I’d seen weakness in other men— Gramps and his disappointments, Lolo and his compromise. But these men had become object lessons for me, men I might love but never emulate, white men and brown men whose fates didn’t speak to my own. It was into my father’s image, the black man, son of Africa, that I’d packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela."
"I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."-Fiction!
This is a corruption of a quote from Obama's book The Audacity of Hope. It is from a section that talks about the concerns of immigrants who are American citizens.
Here is the accurate and more complete quote: "Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

What I get from it, is that he doesn't trust white people, he is prejudiced against white people, he only looks for or sees worthwhile attributes in black men.

This one example was taken at random out of curiosity by me, and yes; I'm sorry I picked this one.
I tried to stay away from his "mentor", his grandparents, and of course communism... which seems to be in vogue these days.

posted on Oct, 14 2010 @ 12:55 PM
Folks, folks, IF he were Muslim but still a decent man - would it matter? IF he were born in Kenya, but still a decent man - would it matter? People other than American Christians are decent people - get over it. At least the man is not a walking dork like Bush, he has intelligence and a bit of class.

As for Palin, - all she has is looks, big hair, but no brains. Tea Party leader? Not likely leader of anything that her husband can't shoot.

You folks have a warped sense of self righteous importance .

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