What Can We Do to End the WAR?

reply to post by m khan


My theory is not popular, but I will post anyway.

Let the dogs loose.

We have to convince our government that it is time to take our intelligence agencies out of the doghouse. Since 9/11, they have been kept on a leash. Yes, they deserved the doghouse. However, one has to be in La-la land to believe that our intel hasn't always been a part of the universal torture system. They are no different than any other intel agency in the world.

Until our government decides that it can trust the agencies, you will continue to see troops overseas. IMO, it is time to bring the troops home and let intel do its job. Could there be a risk of torture?

No doubt, but I can only begin to imagine when that torture actually started. IMO, it wasn't the last ten years. It has always been there.

Like I said, not popular.

Originally posted by m khan
Wait a minute. We may be outnumbered by the 6.7 billion world population, but not too many of those people are on the side of the New World Order. In fact most of them are on our side.

Whats the fear of? Dictatorship? or a one world government?

They don't want war in Afghanistan or Iraq either. And their governments are being bullied. Their governments got conned into taking big loans from the IMF,

Do you realize who is running many of their Governments? When Obama gave the state of the Union and pretty much laid out how bad the Situation was in the US the Bankers, The financiers didn't bat an eye. Look at what happened to the EU and Euro with the Greece deal.

which the US taxpayers are regullarly bailing out to keep the interest money flowing to the banksters. Their governments have been corrupted by our government's New World Order people. If America refused to play ball with them, just watch the domino effect.

Do you know who runs the NWO? Don't you realize that the only real chance is to work from within. The game has already been played, the chess pieces have been moved into place.

reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler

Does it count if your personal plan is to sieze control of the one world government through a lightning strike take over just as they are consolidating their grip on the entire planet and to set your self up as dictator for life in the process?

I love this planet, do you know it has pizza and strip clubs!

I'll give you a slice and a dollar for tipping if you drop some names.

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler

Does it count if your personal plan is to sieze control of the one world government through a lightning strike take over just as they are consolidating their grip on the entire planet and to set your self up as dictator for life in the process?

What an amazing idea. I do believe that is what most of the voters were thinking that Obama would do when they voted him in.

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Originally posted by m khan
It may seem to be headed that direction but I think the American people are capable of heading it off.

Personally, not sure that one-world govt. is necessarily a bad thing.

I do also agree with others who believe it is mostly in place, at present.

I have yet to be convinced that (a) this design could be stopped and (b) that it will be a bad or worse situation than what is currently in place.

Originally posted by jam321

Let the dogs loose.

Like I said, not popular.

Go after them as hard and as fast as they come at us. TRUE!
Of course some will scream don't you remember what the CIA did back in 19...la la la


STAR for you.

reply to post by Everton


Ahoy mate. Obama will cause more damage than bush, in 1/4 the time. In fact, he already has. News, friend, the next 'election' will be worse.

BTW tell brown to shove his 'world constitution', eh?

Originally posted by SLAYER69
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Do you realize who is running many of their Governments? When Obama gave the state of the Union and pretty much laid out how bad the Situation was in the US the Bankers, The financiers didn't bat an eye. Look at what happened to the EU and Euro with the Greece deal.

which the US taxpayers are regullarly bailing out to keep the interest money flowing to the banksters. Their governments have been corrupted by our government's New World Order people. If America refused to play ball with them, just watch the domino effect.

Do you know who runs the NWO? Don't you realize that the only real chance is to work from within. The game has already been played, the chess pieces have been moved into place.

Well, I though it was the Rockefellers and friends, but was recently reading about the CFR, which started as a roundtable of Fabian Socialist School of Economics, designed to scuttle America to help the British Empire. Now I think it may be a combination of Rockefeller and friends and the European nobility. They are the one's who brought Hitler to power and love murder and hate mankind. I think the English made a big mistake letting their nobility stay in power. They are the ones who think they have a hereditary right to rule. Maybe throw in some satanists from Bohemian grove and the Pope and the higher level Masons.
It has something to do with enslaving the world using fractional reserve central banking. Whoever they are, they are bad news for America.

And good luck working from within. That would be quite an accomplishment.

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reply to post by LadySkadi


The formation of the EU convinced me that a one world government was coming our way and there was very little we could do to stop it.

Now other countries of talking about joining together, and I feel they will succeed at will.

One would think that the people would be against such formation, but history has proven otherwise.

correct me if im wrong.... but WE are the ones paying for it, stop paying taxes... no funds no war...

besides the fact that we are spending millions if not billions A DAY

I repeat MILLIONS IF NOT BILLIONS A DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ON SENSE LESS OCCUPATION, for what cause exactly?????????
oh terrorism.....

Did congress approve the WAR ON TERRORISM? kinda like the WAR ON DRUGS??????

how much actual PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE!!!!!????

i dont see any.... none, nothing, we're just that much more broke and hated, and have lost that many lives for NOTHING.... what has the US gained?

We've lost more than anything... money, rights, confidence in our personal security, confidence in our system, and leaders... military LIVES, civilian LIVES, and the respect of the rest of the world....

We must physically block troop deployments, and supply routes AT THE BORDER.... and at the AIRPORTS... SAVE american lives and money and REALLLY SUPPRT OUR TROOPS BY KEEPING THEM SAFE AT HOME...

its a lose lose lose lose lose lose situation.... if we dont...

Originally posted by LadySkadi

Personally, not sure that one-world govt. is necessarily a bad thing.

I do also agree with others who believe it is mostly in place, at present.

I have yet to be convinced that (a) this design could be stopped and (b) that it will be a bad or worse situation than what is currently in place.

Oh please. You need to watch Shindler's List, Do you think a New World Order won't be a hell on earth? Have you noticed they don't plan on keeping too many people alive. If you look at the rules, they won't allow more that 500 million. That requires murdering six billion. If that is ok with you then ......I guess the ends justify the means. But quite frankly, can you image what the ends will look like having got there from mass murder.At the very least they will probably all be white.

Our grandfathers went to considerabe effort to defeat Hitler. Why do you think Americans if they know what they are up against will roll over and play dead?

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reply to post by m khan


You seriously think "they" are going to wack 6 billion?

You really think that?

How would "they" pay for this new world design, if the numbers dropped to 500 million?





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reply to post by m khan


Are you basing the future off a movie or what?

Whose rules?

reply to post by LadySkadi


Yes, They stated that as their aim. Why shouldn't we believe them. Once they get absolute power it really won't be that difficult for them.

reply to post by m khan


You want to read something? For some it'll be hard to understand, for some it is an eye opener and for others still it explains what's happening in a nutshell. The purposeful and deliberate redistribution of wealth. In order to play everybody has to be on an equal footing.


The piper is playing

Western leaders and commentators pinned the blame for the Copenhagen fiasco on China and, to a lesser extent, India. This is hard to fathom. Like China, the U.S. came not to negotiate but to sign an agreement on its terms. Both were equally constrained by domestic growth requirements and political compulsions.

The scattergun information noise from western countries has obscured their culpability in refusing to honour Kyoto and Bali pledges, instead pointing a collective finger at developing countries' rejection of binding emission cuts. The latter blame the West's past industrialization for the present crisis. Westerners highlight present and future growth in energy consumption by China and India as the main factors taking us to and beyond the tipping point. Developed countries talk of net national emissions, developing countries of per capita emissions. In some respects the West is effectively "outsourcing" its pollution to China as the world's factory. Multinationals set up business in China which produces goods for western consumers and pollution for Chinese cities.

On another front, soft power is a complement to hard power, not its substitute. Major media voices from the globally dominant powers wield matching international influence. Waning hard power shrinks soft power, including media influence.

Last fall, the New York Times told Manmohan Singh to resist calls for more nuclear tests which "would be a huge setback -- for India's relations with Washington, for the battle against terrorists, and for global efforts to halt the spread of nuclear weapons." It advised India to focus on economic growth, not more nuclear weapons, and urged Washington to "leave no doubt about how much India would have to lose if New Delhi makes the wrong choice."

Source


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On the surface it may appear to be some stupid article about Pollution, global warming or China and India's economic rise etc...


I set this next quote separate for the full impact.
Same Source

Nelson Mandela reportedly said that the terms of a struggle are usually set not by the challengers but by the dominant elite whose power, status, privileges and authority are under assault.

Equally, once the aspiring new members are inside the club, they too must adapt their behaviors and accept the burden of shared management of a fragile world order.

Try to have a good night.

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The most popular reference to the elite's desire to reduce the population to 500 million is the Georgia Guidestones. It was also at least one thread in ATS It ws also discussed in conferences concerning sustainable population.
Granted the elites are manipulating the situation from behind the scenes, due mostly to their power of the control of money having duped the American people into allowing a central bank, the FED. and due to their control over our military through the structure of the CIA, Since the Rockefellers had a situation in WWII with special inside knowledge of the leadership of Nazi Germany it was logical for them to take over the US spying operations which evolved into the CIA.
I guess in order to end this "endless" war you have to defeat the global elites. But I am saying that it is not impossible. That the American people, if they exercised their liberties, could put these global elites in their place.

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reply to post by nvprose1


To stop paying taxes doesn't help because our taxes don't even pay for the war. It is financed through the FED printing money adding to our National Debt. Our taxes only go to pay the interest on the National Debt, to the FED. We need to end the FED, end the WAR and GET OUT OF THE UN.

reply to post by LadySkadi


How will they pay for this nwo if the people are gone? It's not like the money vanishes.



We are being judged by a machine, at the moment. Therefore the machine operators will be judged. If they are judging us fairly, and this is a distinct possibilty, they will meet with fair judgment. You do realize that everything we do down to the thought impulse we use to justify running a red light while texting, is being noted?

Perhaps you do not. I think it is so, but there will be a lot of twists along the way.

Lawyers will be replaced with nano tech that uses our own actions, and thoughts, as input to the life source we will be feeding upon. Those of us who do bad things will simply wither away, eventually. This tech will be here sooner than you think, en masse. I believe it is already being applied as a sort of trial and error approach with high profile persons, I mean regular joes who drew attention, not the elite, necessarily. The more right things they think, and do, the more radio impulses are sent to keep them healthy, and vice versa. Just my experience.

Everything and everyone you see between yourself and this 'matrix' if you will, is an illusion in terms of control and power. Those who are assuming control in the guise of figureheads, presidents, etc., are most likely doomed, so do not be envious of them. Remember, they are breaking the laws they sanctioned to judge us with, every time a neuron flashes in their brains. They have no choice. Power, my friend, is a very difficult thing to retain. It corrupts absolutely, and they will be taken up by the greatest judge for the double standard. Most of them have no clue that what I am hereby stating has been allowed. Either their skulls are too thick, or they really don't know anything at all. (Dennis Kucinich does, but he changed his mind, and wants to ban guns instead of e-weapons) I feel sorry for those who 'know' and continue to act as they act. You see the hell they put us through for our daily machination of food turned to poop? While they live like kings, feeding bankers handsome tax bailouts, then strangling us with interest? Burning the ice caps with a kajillion watts of tax payer electricity? Lying ALL THE TIME?

It may be 'they', thesew figureheads of power, are being targeted by the elite as well, with the 'judge' I referred to, some sort of digital life monitor based on thoughts and actions. Or else they are too fat dumb and happy, and let it conveniently fade from their brain. But someone is spreading this thing around. It is in operation. It is a counterfeit of God, but closer to justice, possibly, than the greasy legal system now in place. What shall we do? My advice: act like there really is a God. It is a higher, more fair, absolute judge, than one fashioned after any ideal justice we can conceive of. That too will be hacked, corrupted, overridden, made exception to, until we all fall down trying to fit in.

That is the reason we have war.

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Originally posted by LadySkadi

There will not be an end to war.

Did everyone forget their Economics courses?

Supply and Demand. Limited resources for unlimited need or want.

They who control the resources, control everything.

It's really very simple. Deceivingly so, apparently.


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ETA: "war" = technological, economical and militaristic.




[edit on 2-3-2010 by LadySkadi]

You are referring to your economics classes. Has it occurred to you that they lied to you. Did your economics class explain how the FED works with the banks to loan money to countries that they can never pay back and uses the American taxpayers to cover the loans and makes the American taxpayers bail out every country piling it all on the National debt. Did your economics class tell you that the 16th Amendment authorizing the income tax was never ratified.Did they tell you that Lincoln was assassinated because he was planning on getting the US out of debt.Did it mention that Kennedy was going to defeat the FED by printing up US Treasure notes backed by silver. You probably heard of these things but not from your economic class.Maybe they did, but our education is controlled by the global elites using the power of their money over the universities. Part of "mind control" is information control

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