Originally posted by Fanatic
Originally posted by bsbray11
And you think WE have lost touch with reality? You didn't even read the articles in the OP, did you? A town in Georgia passes a law REQUIRING every
home to possess a handgun and ammo and breaking and enterings drop to next to nothing, murder almost unheard of. Yeah, I guess they're just making
Yes, I have read the articles. I noticed you ask that a couple of times almost as if you you expect people to change their minds after reading your
post. I'm sorry but you don't make such a convincing case.
Then apparently facts don't make convincing cases for you, and I feel sorry for you. You suggested guns don't deter crime. What evidence did you
post to support that? None. I said they DO deter crime. And I actually posted evidence. Do I care if it didn't change your mind? No. If you
don't like us having guns, come try and take them from us and see what that gets you.
Would we actually fight to defend our rights? Well consider that the state I live in has revolted against its own government twice already (first
against the British, even before the Revolutionary War even started, then again during the Civil War in defense of states' rights over federal
authority, something many states are again moving back to today -- California, Texas, Montana, Vermont, etc.), three or four times if you count the
Coal Miners' rebellions culminating in 1921 when mistreated coal miners spontaneously formed an army of some 7,000 - 10,000 men and marched on West
Virginia. Also consider all the militias all over this country formed by veterans and others whose sole interest is protecting our Bill of Rights.
Our Constitution and Bill of Rights are about as "Holy" to Americans as you get without actual religion being brought into it. Yes, people would
definitely fight to defend this right. If guns were outlawed, I doubt the feds would even be able to collect half
of what is out there. If
they didn't immediately face violence, they would start facing it as soon as they try raiding peoples' property in violation of the Bill of Rights.
As has been consistently pointed out on this thread, we Americans definitely seem to have a more independent attitude towards our government than
Brits and Chinese and all these other countries whose citizens have already had their balls broke. When we say we want our REPRESENTATIVES (remember
that word?) to actually represent and respect us, we will only be pushed so far before the sentiments start changing. Trying to disarm us would
definitely cause a LOT of violence from otherwise peaceful, law-abiding citizens. It is our culture.
Something else for you non-Americans. If you drive through states like Texas (larger than many/most European countries by itself) or Tennessee, you
will see billboards all along the highways and interstates advertizing gun shows, gun sales, militias, and even reminding people to exercise their
2nd amendment rights. It is THAT ingrained into our culture.
Texas used to be part of Mexico and rebelled and formed its own country. Then joined the union with a clause stating it could leave the union
whenever it wanted. Texans remember that, too, no matter what threats the feds make. Texas is an especially armed state and very vocal about its 2nd
[edit on 4-3-2010 by bsbray11]