Forced Addiction to the System=American Reliance on Government at all time high!, page 1

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Topic started on 2-3-2010 @ 02:19 PM by HappilyEverAfter

www.washingtontimes.com...

The kettle is on the boil and I'm starting to hear the whistle, yet our cooks in the kitchen in washington dont seem to care that the stove is melting !
Amazing article, pretty good read.

reply posted on 2-3-2010 @ 02:33 PM by SeekerofTruth101

Why do citizens bother to follow and respect the rules in the country?
Why do citizens bother to pay taxes and allow the land which is theirs in collective ownership to be used and distributed accordingly by their elected representatives.
Why do contribting citizens IN TIME OF crises, NOT turn to the govt, whom ARE THE REPRESENTATIVES OF FELLOW AMERICANS, for help?

There are reasons why ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES OF THE PEOPLE exists. If you don't know the reason nor wish to find out, there are flights to China and Russia anytime weekly for you to live there.

reply posted on 2-3-2010 @ 02:34 PM by poedxsoldiervet

reply to post by HappilyEverAfter

Thats what the Progressives want. They need you to rely on the Feds and not question them. Really do we need the FEDS? Not for this purpose

reply posted on 2-3-2010 @ 02:36 PM by jam321

The more people depend on government, the less likely they are to strike the hand that feeds it.

The government has the advantage. I believe this is the major reason most people are just sitting back doing nothing.

reply posted on 2-3-2010 @ 02:42 PM by Zosynspiracy

This is exactly what "they" want. Whether their intentions are devious and evil or benign. It's all about the consolidation of power and control.

All you have to do is look at the most basic of necessities...........FOOD! Our ability to feed and nourish ourselves has been completely hijacked by the government. America used to be a country of small scale farmers and rural communities that enjoyed a sense of independence and self sustainment. That has been destroyed. Rural America is a cesspool of welfare and subsidy. Farmers get zero respect and are milked by the government or they have sold out to the corporations. If we as Americans can't even enjoy the ability and freedom to provide food for us then what the hell else matters? After having destroyed the rural fabric of America they are now destroying the middle class suburban way of life. Pretty soon we will all be living in apartment cities and taking public transportation....................like our socialized European counterparts.

You wanna see just how far a country can fall..........look at Great Britain.

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reply posted on 2-3-2010 @ 02:48 PM by concernedcitizan

The class division of a capitalist society means people who worship the trivial in life get ahead of the intelligent and long-term thinking individuals. If you are socially aggressive enough to attempt climbing the socioeconomic ladder, you can, as long as you find a market niche. Eventually we get the kind of political and cultural leaders who are nothing more than business managers and corporate investors. While the ancient Hindu caste system rests upon a meritocratic basis, the capitalist class system works largely by social merits. Instead of demanding proof of your abilities and talents, a capitalists society will ask you if you're good at selling products and services to people.

Capitalism combined with a speculation economy, meaning an economy where investors and speculators can generate wealth through economic management alone, eventually create huge debts, inflated currencies, credit booms/contractions, and pave way for the kind of economic exploitation that America has become famous for in connection to the subprime crisis. Income should be based upon the production of domestic goods and services, not on speculation alone. While a free market (regulated by culture) and competition between private companies is a good thing for a national economy, adding a layer of speculation and usury will build a credit empire, later ending its height with environmental, economic, and social problems. America is the best example of this.

reply posted on 2-3-2010 @ 02:53 PM by Amaterasu

I am not surprised at the high levels of dependence - I myself am caught in the system, and not for wanting to get out, either.

I say we go a whole new direction, as I describe here: www.abovetopsecret.com...

S&F, OP.

reply posted on 2-3-2010 @ 02:55 PM by HappilyEverAfter

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It's like a sick dysfunctional relationship, looking at it from the outside, which is hard as youre spinning right in the middle of it.
The "partner" with the most "resources and power" strips away autonomy and resources from the other partner, removes opportunity and availability, yet gathers and takes more power and resources for themselves, WEAKENING and also PROVIDING the lesser partner, until total control has been obtained.
Like an abusive relationship between a "couple".
There's never a good end to those stories, someone always ends up dead.

reply posted on 2-3-2010 @ 03:03 PM by Zosynspiracy

reply to post by concernedcitizan

Yeah just look at our society. 3/4 of our economy rests of the fact that everyone has their hand in the next guy's pocket. How many people, myself included I'm an RN, actually PRODUCE SOMETHING TANGIBLE and NEEDED by society. I guess I provide a much needed service compared to say a personal assitant to a celebrity or something like that. Everyone nowadays in America thinks they are going to make it big and we are all going to be business owners. That's the biggest scam going on right now. I see it every day. Everyone talking about opening up their "own business" yet their idea of a business is usually some fluff occupation like dog walking or marketing or some other hardly needed aspect of the economy. How many Americans are willing to say I'm going to open up my own business and become a farmer??????? For example.

But although I agree with you at the root of our problem in America is our monetary system. This is how "they" controll everything. And the American Federal Reserve system is how wealth is increasingly privatized and money/wealth/assets increasingly get funneled up to the top 1% of our society. Most people even Ron Paul goldbugs fail to reazlie this. There is nothing wrong with a fiat system of money as long as that system is under the auspices of the US government i.e. the people and the constitution and the profits from creating money are funneled back into the government and used to benefit the people. After all money is simply an abstract form of law.

reply posted on 2-3-2010 @ 03:04 PM by David9176

reply to post by poedxsoldiervet

Thats what the Progressives want. They need you to rely on the Feds and not question them. Really do we need the FEDS? Not for this purpose

Thanks for the info GLEN. Look forward to your show in 56 minutes. Your radio show was great this morning...really touching!

reply posted on 2-3-2010 @ 03:05 PM by thebulldog

reply to post by SeekerofTruth101

The problem with these elected representatives is they compounded the problems to begin with. Its like the mob smashing your store and then offering to protect it in the future for a fee.

Your elected officials represent you in theory but in reality they represent their careers and whats best to keep them afloat.

Cheers

reply posted on 2-3-2010 @ 04:30 PM by concernedcitizan

reply to post by Zosynspiracy

I for one, support decentralization, I also like the idea of having one leader for every community, opposed to having a dictator being in charge of a bureaucratic super-state. Go back to the local, organic collective society. In that sense we share many ideas with anarchists (reduce power we don't need), socialists (create a stable, working system for all citizens), libertarians (reduce government intrusion) and greens (less technology and state, less environmental impact).

Leadership comes down to ability. This is contrary to democratic "leadership," which essentially says leaders should ask the people before they make any decisions. As we all know, democracies eventually end up being bought up by lobbyists and rich, powerful people who want to sell us things via puppet-politicians on TV.

A leader needs to combine a philosophical platform and a cultural and spiritual awareness, with the ability to create consensus among people and lead them no matter what. Being a leader is no different than being a mechanic or carpenter, in the sense that we essentially want the right man in the right place. Some people seem to think anyone can perform any task. We've tried that now and it's wrecking our society.

reply posted on 2-3-2010 @ 04:52 PM by daddio

Originally posted by HappilyEverAfter
reply to post by poedxsoldiervet

It's like a sick dysfunctional relationship, looking at it from the outside, which is hard as youre spinning right in the middle of it.
The "partner" with the most "resources and power" strips away autonomy and resources from the other partner, removes opportunity and availability, yet gathers and takes more power and resources for themselves, WEAKENING and also PROVIDING the lesser partner, until total control has been obtained.
Like an abusive relationship between a "couple".
There's never a good end to those stories, someone always ends up dead.

Very well put, but it is "THEY" who will end up dead. Total domination has never worked in the history of man. "THEY" can't understand that. We are all one mind, "THEY" are included. The biggest mistake they made was to oppress the people into submission. What happens when you take away the "free" things that people can do? They sit in their homes or shacks and look at each other and then procreate, they make more people. Is this a good thing? NO, because now they have to try and control even more people, if they try and get rid of them, someone will notice and it is game on!!

I just have to laugh at the stupidity of their inbreeding to keep it all in the family, it made them physcopathic and stupid!!!!

I was just talking to someone today, who can't believe the amount of people seeing the truth, and the dumb or complacent are getting dumber!! These dumbasses really think the government is going to take care of them? Are they in for a shock!!

But there is a way out and this way will also reel in the fraud and the ability of the "government" to strip our rights away. WE have to make the move to accomplish this. I have been trying to get more people to study the word magic and read the books and articles published by great people. My brother filed his paperwork yesterday. More people are asking questions now. WE are the government, WE have the control and ability to say NO.

I am working on a thread to explain everything, not that most will believe it but it's the truth as has been told over and over, and no one ws listening.

reply posted on 2-3-2010 @ 05:56 PM by HappilyEverAfter

reply to post by daddio

Usually when something like this is getting ready to blow up in their face they create a "new diversion" I'm curious what this next one's going to be because it's like watching a magic trick over and over,
pretty soon, the audience catches on!

I'm looking forward to that thread.

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