reply to post by Josephus23
The word Jew is first found in the Book of Daniel, and is used to discribe a small group of Israelites of Judah tribe (Jew - Judah) returned to Israel
from the captivity in Babylon to rebuild the Temple. The rest of the Hebrews spread out accross the world.
The main argument Israeli Jews use these days giving strength to their claim of the Land of Israel, is the Bible and God, since God promised the
children of Abraham the Land of Canaan, later further limited to the children of Isaac and his son Jacob. However, the "Jews" who live there today
have no right according to the Tanakh they use, of inheriting the Land. Since it is limited to the Shemite sons of Abraham, through his son Isaac and
his grandson Israel.
According to their own Law, the Torah, only sons of Israel have direct right of inheritence:
Genesis 35:10 God said to him, "Your name is Jacob, but you will no longer be called Jacob; your name will be Israel. " So he named him Israel.
11 And God said to him, "I am God Almighty; be fruitful and increase in number. A nation and a community of nations will come from you, and kings
will come from your body. 12 The land I gave to Abraham and Isaac I also give to you, and I will give this land to your descendants after
This is the exact phrase "orthodox Jews" use to give them the right to the Land of Israel. Descendants after Israel have a right to the Land. The
Land of Israel belongs to the male descendants of Israel (Jacob). Since there are no sons of Israel present to claim the Land, the brother of Jacob
should have it, since he had no daughters, meaning Esau, but since there are noone of Esau present and no other brothers to Jacob, Ishmael shall have
it, since he is the brother of Isaac and the closest relative of Jacob, and at the same time have a right to inherit Abraham, although Sarah refused
to allow Ishmael inheritance. The indigenous people of the Land are the sons of Ishmael, the Palestinians, and they have a greater right to the Land
of Israel than any foreign Japhetite claiming to be a Jew.
Numbers 27:8 "Say to the Israelites, 'If a man dies and leaves no son, turn his inheritance over to his daughter. 9 If he has no daughter, give
his inheritance to his brothers. 10 If he has no brothers, give his inheritance to his father's brothers. 11 If his father had no brothers, give
his inheritance to the nearest relative in his clan, that he may possess it. This is to be a legal requirement for the Israelites, as the LORD
commanded Moses.' "
Israel is a clan of twelve (+1) tribes, it is not a religion. It is a people and a nation.
Like I have explained Palestinians can claim their right of Israel, atleast the lands of the kingdom of Israel, and be good to the converts who are
all Jews, meaning they only have a right to the Land of Judah.
For fun, draw a line along the borders of Judah according to the Book of Joshuah and see what it looks like....
[edit on 12/3/2010 by Neo Christian Mystic]