posted on Mar, 6 2010 @ 12:17 AM
Here we are again, questioning the right of Israel to exist. My point is that murky as the history of Zionism is, from terrorism to land purchases
under questionable pressure, it has happened a long time ago, it was in our granfather's generation. They also made World War 2, which doubtlessly
brought at its end the result of the West's sudden support of an Israeli homeland which they opposed to the tooth before. That is the geopolitical
problem of those non-Jewish people already living there, that they suddenly had to take a spillover from the second world war, from Europe mainly, so
in terms of their existence, an alien country was placed in their midst overnight.
Then it grew in size an power because of countries led by America - keeping check on the Middle East was important for the new economy was based on
oil, you could not just hold the supply price and distribution even without a captain country to keep Arab regimes in check. Then the same captain
country was made a bastion of weaponry against the Soviets possible incurring in the same region - which they did - patronizing Iraq, Egypt, as well
as the PLO - two countries and one guerilla organization that came to armed conflicts with Israel. Israel was fighting proxy wars against the Soviets
on behalf of the American Empire. No wonder the US backed Israel consitently in the UN resolutions, despite every human evidence.
Israel' establishment could have been much less traumatic and legalistic had the Western powers decided to grant Israel's right to foundation BEFORE
the war. MAny rightful pruchases could have been granted. Plus, it was done in a haste, it is very difficult to found a decent country in a couple of
years time. But the Zionists wanted a clean country ready for all the world's persecuted Jewry.
Anyway, there were several generations already living there, rebuilding and creating a true nation with its language, science, education, military
etc. I guess most Israelis would be happy to live on in their chosen land. And since some hold the "God-given" argument, they will never want to
In its internal poitics and public discussion, Israel is - although a democracy, - very Middle Eastern. It is difficult to understand that dialog for
a Norwegian, where democracy means a demand of honesty upon everyone. Just like Palestinians and other Arabs find it sometimes natural to have
sensational exaggerations and even outright lies in political speech, there is a tendency for Israeli politics to adopt the same tone. You can simply
start to perceive this by counting how many times they keep on inserting phrases like "this is the truth" , "but it's the truth", when in reality
many times those "truths" are exaggerated events demonizing enemies etc. If you are saying the truth all the time, there is no need to state it as
There needs to be a gradual reform in that culture so that this typicaly middle eastern political behavior pattern would be subsumed by a world where
people are basically honest to each other, and we start counting the exceptions, not the reverse.
Israel should come out in the open and declare their atomic warheads. They never signed a treaty forbidding them anyway. Promises should be kept and
let neutral. The people should be educated against wild nationalist nonsense and bad mass psychology - like the often quoted adage "the Arab will
only understand the language of force". Or keep on repeating that self-desctructing mantram until it becomes reality. Low-position, bitter people and
outcasts have a socilogical tendency to take on the bad stereotypes projected on them everywhere - see Griffin's study of American Black.
The God-given land promise Is in the Bible but Islam interprets these differently, and so do secular Western states. We should just live with it that
this is a lot of Israeli's conviction. Any judgment from an outside forum should disregard that politely, except international religious
The warhead status which is waiting to be fired on this ancient land comes from geopolitical pressure of the rich part of the world on the poorer
parts with material resources to be plundered. Disinvest in oil and the religious problem will be minimized. There is no such guerilla war against
Hongkong or the tourist districts of Mexico, again enclaves of the rich West (or North) on poorer countries. Israel would be a tourist attraction, a
business centre, not he formidable war force antagonizing all its neighbours unnecessarily, if it were not for the economic and geopolitical pressure.
That is why they are trying to exercise some amount of control by all means over the United States. And, 911 - take your guess. Cui bono?
These things would have to be gradually righted if the goal to make Israel live a peaceful existence with its naighbours. That may be the goal of many
Israelis, while it is not the goal of the superpowers.
It is not smart to argue their internal arguments externally. Who cares if they believe Sand Hill is the source of divine revelation?
Coming to esoteric beliefs, a seer once told me that the Holy Land (including Palestine) can never be owned. The Earth will resist any such attempt.
But it is possible for Jews, Arabs and Christians to live in peace alongside as long as they want co-operation. The more force they will flaunt and
the more they will be attacked, and the less understanding they display towards their neighbours' mentalities (such as the above mentioned distrust
clause which would come across as racist and generalizing in modern societies), the more peace they could enjoy - in the land of who they believe to
be their ancestors. We should not question tat belief, it is simply found in many nationalistic ideologies with prophecies by ancient Kings.
Time to time recently these tenets are rejected in Israel favouring a paranoid mentality in the majority. Many Israelis flee who dislike ardent
nationalism. The liberal Jewish communities abroad with a lot of funds towards Israel did not support the Atlantic Block's latest two wars, and will
support an Iran war even less. I agree with Chomsky - it is the West that keeps Israel being a permanent war zone, with clever propaganda. As for
non-Zionist Jews, let this argument be settled among the Jewry of the world. If there is no war threat, this argument would become irrelevant until
non-Zionist Jews would set out to dismantle Israel. But most people having grown up there would automatically disagree.