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Originally posted by slymattb
reply to post by SantaClaus
I am looking for uptodate infomation. Books that acurately help understand the bible and its times. Im looking for great amount of information as well a good images and charts. Books that help me understand the bible and whats others believe.
I am also looking for the best apologetics books.
Those books are great. However, if you really want to dive into biblical understanding you will need a good theology book. Its my personal opinion that catholic theology provides the best insight.
Originally posted by slymattb
I'm about to buy alot of books that help me undersand the bible. Like Study Bibles, and bible handbooks, bible dictionaries and stuff like that. I asking others what the best books, which are the most current, uptodate, most informative, that have the best images and charts.
Here are some of the books I am looking at.
For study bibles.
ESV Study Bible, The Apologetic Study bible, And I am thinking of getting also New KJV study bible.
On Bible handbooks I am looking at
Halley's bible handbook, New Unger's Bible Handbook
Bible Dictionaries I am looking at
Holman Illustrated Bible dictionary, or New Unger's bible Dictionary
For Bible Atlas I am looking at Deluxe Then and Now Bible Maps, Historical Atlas of the Bible.
I am also looking to get a great prophecy book but I am not share what would be a good one. Plus I am looking for the best Concordance, topical, Commentary.
I am looking for the best uptodated books, atleast over 2003. The more information with color maps and charts.
If there are anyone that are in college studying the bible maybe some of the books you read I might be looking for. I am looking for what the experts use. Please.
Originally posted by badmedia
If you are going to put that much effort into it, then why not just learn the original languages?
Personally, I think the only way to really understand is to seek and find the father. You have to experience John 14, and when you know John 14:20 from experience, and not because men told you, or because you read it in a book - then you will find understanding flowing.
But good luck.
Originally posted by oliveoil
Yes and the only way to find the father is though Jesus.
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Jesus and the father are equal.
John 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
John 14:11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.
The only place one can know John 14 is to read it in the Bible. The Bible is a book.
Now, more proof of this is slymattb himself. He obviously knows all that you are talking about, yet he is still looking for understanding. Because he knows he does not know the father. Yet here you are telling him that he needs to do what he has already done to find the father - of which he has not found.
Originally posted by Locoman8
How about we forget about arguing biblical points and help the guy out with some true study references for him. I don't mean to be rude but there are too many people hijacking threads as of late by going off-topic. There are plenty of threads to discuss John 14 or whatever you want to discuss. Let's give the OP some references to concentrate on. Peace.
Originally posted by oliveoil
No, I am saying that to gain a deep rich understanding of the Bible, (no maps,charts,diagrams ect are going to give you this, and I agree with you) one must study the theology behind the bible. Your saying that the father has given you this knowledge. Most of us are not that lucky. However, I disagree as to the understanding as to the "theology" the father has given you and had to point this out.This is not arguing biblical points as locoman puts it, and is not off topic as if someone who really wants to understand the bible must first acknowledge the fact that Jesus and God the father are one in the same
Originally posted by Locoman8
reply to post by badmedia
I get it that John 14 is about gaining understanding and knowledge but I don't think helps the OPs purpose if we argue about it or what it means. It just further confuses people.
And to oliveoil... nice move trying to throw in your own peice of doctrine in this thread by saying the Father and Jesus are one and the same. I've pointed out many times how this is not true. They are one in purpose but they are not the same being. One of the interesting facts you'll find in the book "Shocked by the Bible". Peace.
Originally posted by Locoman8
reply to post by oliveoil
You wanna knock the book before you read it? Typical of a blind christian. Check the book out and check the facts with the actual bible and history. Please elaborate on your comment?