Originally posted by klain
Originally posted by sinohptik
reply to post by klain
What answers do you want?
What do you mean?
Well you said this:
Originally posted by klain
my excuse is the same I just want answers.
in the post just before mine. If you are looking for answers, i was curious as to what your questions were.
i will say though, science can not yet approach the subject as testing platforms, and even individual human perspectives, have not grown to the point
of being able to explore what is happening. What is happening is not sourced solely in the material universe in which we can observe, measure, and
distinguish patterns. It only manifests in some regards through these avenues.
i have a scientific mind as well. But perhaps i have come to different conclusions than yourself. i feel the "container" of that scientific mind
was found to be a better, more solid, foundation to live and explore than just residing completely in one of the tools at our disposal (our thought
processes). This experiential perspective shift is started by many through breathing exercises that have been used for quite a few years now. The
main goal was to realize that other systems existed alongside my thought processes, individual (but not separate) from it. Experiencing my lungs
breathing was better done through breathing with my lungs than it was through thinking about my lungs breathing. This does not vilify, or even deny,
the mind. It just allows that system to exist alongside other systems simultaneously in our body. It is a direct simile to social interaction as
well, as others systems do not exist within my
mind, they exist individually from it. If one has never experienced and perceived two or more
individual systems at once in their own body, it is only a matter of opening ones perspective (the one that observes
that scientific mind) to
what is already occurring around us continuously and simultaneously. It is becoming aware of the constant movement all around us instead of viewing
it all as a static object of sorts. i feel the amazing part is growing that perspective is endless, there is always more whether it is another system
becoming perceived as an independent (but not separate) part, or understanding that same "independent, but not separate," structure exists
within/without those independent, individual parts. By nature though, it can not be understood solely through the mind/thought processes, as such
systems are not contained within the mind itself, just as "i" am not contained within "you."
So, even if that post was an outburst, what do you think spurred it? i asked before, but where would you like to see the thread go? It will never go
"there" if we dont start walking in that direction, neh?