NSA Helped With Windows 7 Development, page 1
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Topic started on 1-3-2010 @ 05:15 PM by Signals


This issue has a little dust on it, sorry if it's been discussed.

Surprising to me the NSA comes right out an admits it was involved-

The National Security Agency (NSA) worked with Microsoft on the development of Windows 7, an agency official acknowledged yesterday during testimony before Congress.

“Working in partnership with Microsoft and elements of the Department of Defense, NSA leveraged our unique expertise and operational knowledge of system threats and vulnerabilities to enhance Microsoft’s operating system security guide without constraining the user to perform their everyday tasks, whether those tasks are being performed in the public or private sector,” Richard Schaeffer, the NSA’s information assurance director, told the Senate’s Subcommittee on Terrorism and Homeland Security yesterday as part of a prepared statement.


Surely this is just for our own good, right

This is not the first time that the NSA has partnered with Microsoft during Windows development. In 2007, the agency confirmed that it had a hand in Windows Vista as part of an initiative to ensure that the operating system was secure from attack and would work with other government software. Before that, the NSA provided guidance on how best to secure Windows XP and Windows 2000.


It is SO easy to spy on us, I swear...

But when the NSA puts hands on Windows, that raises a red flag for Rotenberg, who heads the Washington, D.C.-based public interest research center. “When NSA offers to help the private sector on computer security, the obvious concern is that it will also build in backdoors that enables tracking users and intercepting user communications,” Rotenberg said in an e-mail. “And private sector firms are reluctant to oppose these ’suggestions’ since the US government is also their biggest customer and opposition to the NSA could mean to loss of sales.”


Source Here

So, "Make these changes to your OS or else..." ?


reply posted on 1-3-2010 @ 06:40 PM by Signals
reply to post by Bordon81



Hmmm, I somehow still don't feel comfortable with this...

How can it be nothing nefarious if the NSA is actually in on the development of an OS?

I wonder if they've had any dealings with Apple?


reply posted on 2-3-2010 @ 12:00 AM by Acid_Burn2009
Originally posted by rizla
One could go to linux, but then 90% of software will no longer work.

Windows 7 is okay, but they could've done better. I pity anyone that tries to use the built-in email package live mail. The NSA probably put that in there to fry our brains. I know. It fried mine.


Not necessarily true. Just FYI
There are several programs which let you run a virtual hard drive. There is Wine that allows you to run some windows apps fairly well. I find it to be glitchy at best with most.
As a back up, I run virtualbox with windows XP, just in case I should need to access any windows programs. That also allows me to cage the MS operating system and keep it from infecting anything in my inux distro. Anything put out by bill gates and his band of goons is glitchy and sub par. For any program in a windows operating system there is an equal linux distribution that equals, and many times exceeds any microsoft application. The best part is that most of the time it is free and distributed open source.

Those windows 7 commercials really piss me off. This whole thing of streaming media to your tv and other sources (as well as accessing other computers) is nothing new. I have been doing this for quite some time. All it takes is a little reading but most of the computer illiterate society buys it hook, line and sinker. Just because you can whip up a spreadsheet in excel does not make you a computer genius. Heh, you should see what I can do. I choose not to use my knowledge for malicious purposes...well, ok; I did it a few times to wi-fi leechers when my router became mysteriously un-secured.

Ok, back on topic. If I as an average joe scmoe can do the things I can do...without ever having attended one single solitary day of school for it, imagine what the techies at the NSA can do. I shudder to think. If I can hack my way into a secure connection and flip on someones webcam and watch them...that's scary because I am an amateur with a decent laptop and a broadband connection. Just imagine having the equipment they do. The possibilities are endless.

Enough rant...later all.


-Nate


edit-post was discombobulated. fixed it

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reply posted on 2-3-2010 @ 09:11 AM by Signals
reply to post by LadySkadi



Thanks! I feel better now...





(signals leaves the room to find a black marks-alot, to "fix" the laptop cam)


reply posted on 7-3-2010 @ 05:15 PM by OpTiMuS_PrImE
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yup specifically to spy on all the users, pre-planned in place before the NSA took over Google also now they can track everything anytime


reply posted on 7-3-2010 @ 05:18 PM by RyannVonDoom
Originally posted by OpTiMuS_PrImE
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post by Signals



yup specifically to spy on all the users, pre-planned in place before the NSA took over Google also now they can track everything anytime


Would that be why there were so many illegal copies out almost immediately without any word of repercussion?
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