Tithing..... And the scum that rob God..., page 2
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reply posted on 28-2-2010 @ 08:31 PM by Yissachar1
reply to post by Copperflower



A... Freakin .... Men...... GOD provides... You dont have to ask... He just does... And you prove THAT... WOW... That is faith...

If the people of God was to see THAT... Then they would have faith in truth instead of thinking that they would win the lotto.. Money and things are not important, but the relationships that w develop in serving one another is an adventure and proof of God that only those who have done that know... Wow.... Again.. Im soooo praying for you everyday... What a privilege it is that a site like this has people like you...


reply posted on 28-2-2010 @ 08:38 PM by Bilw85
reply to post by Yissachar1



If only I could find a group of people with your mindset in my area. We seem to be infected with the "going to church" instead of "being the church" syndrome.



reply posted on 28-2-2010 @ 08:38 PM by Yissachar1
reply to post by iamsupermanv2



Duped....

So if you see the people being duped like that, then how can you believe God???

The enemy must LOVE the church coz the people who attend are easily duped into anything... Serving each other isnt one of them though...

Praise clubs and light shows IS....

"How far you have fallen oh son of the morning"....

Isaiah said that to someone else... Lucifer if im not mistaken...


reply posted on 28-2-2010 @ 08:44 PM by Yissachar1
reply to post by Bilw85



Dude you can find them!! They are there... And if you need help.. Im here to help you..
But YOU are THERE, not me... Like the watcher on the wall, YOU have to warn.... You can change things... God Gave you and I a spirit of LOVE POWER and SOUND MIND... He dont make mistakes... We were all born for THIS hour.. Our tasks have been given... So has yours... Dont be afraid.. God is with you...


reply posted on 28-2-2010 @ 08:55 PM by Yissachar1
reply to post by sadwolf



Yeah.. But you cant buy your way into heaven... it doesnt come by what you have or even what you did.. Because doing stuff like giving to the poor isnt gonna get you there either.. Its what is in your heart that counts... I can be rich and give to the poor, but it means nothing coz im rich, and my giving is not a real sacrifice.. Also.. If the intent of my heart was wrong in the giving... That I do it to get something in return.. Then that is nothing too...

We do it because we love God and those made in His image... If we dont love those made in His image then how can we love God??

Love, friendship, relationship is the whole thing.... Being Judgmental is not what we were made for , serving one another is....

We are blessed to be a blessing to others... Not to keep it in a vault... But to share...

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reply posted on 28-2-2010 @ 09:36 PM by autowrench
Originally posted by Yissachar1
reply to
post by Shadowflux



I suggest taking a parcel of food as your next tithe.. That is biblical... Food, nappies, all of those things for the needy... The "church" building was only evr meant as a meeting place, and a place where goods for those who need it could be given... The REAL church is the body... The body is the real temple of the Holy Spirit.. You cant leave THAT behind on Sunday!

Offerings however is your own choice...


Good thinking here. Every once in awhile, at my local Kroger store, these Christian kids sit at a table to collect for "poor starving kids in Gambia." Well, my wife has a great online friend who runs an orphanage in Gambia. He tells us that most money sent there gets taken by the warlords in the area, Africa is full of these people. So anyway, I report this to the kids, and one called me a liar! I then asked them why not collect for poor hungry kids right here in America, there are plenty of them here. Black stares was all I got from them. And you are totally right, Shadowflux, this is called "racketeering." Of course this crime is a pittance compared to the real crimes of the Church.


reply posted on 28-2-2010 @ 09:55 PM by Yissachar1
reply to post by autowrench



That post was me and not shadowflux but soo what... There are kids in the very street you live in that are in dire need... Just coz they live in america doesnt mean anything... Its worse actually... Because you ignore those in need that are under your own nose then they grow up to be a problem and then you wonder why crime is soo high and there is no compassion left... Charity has begin at home.. Once you have done that, then you can be a solution to everyone else...



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reply posted on 28-2-2010 @ 10:15 PM by Yissachar1
reply to post by autowrench



That is exactly what tithing was meant for..... Damn...... You give to a sink hole of a government in taxes for no returns... But if you give to your community??... The returns come back in more than one way... Trouble is.. That a lot of Americans have been conditioned to think that that kind if tithing is socialism or communism.. But its not.. Its investing in your community and its people at a local level that in time makes a more caring country that TRULY takes care of its citizens and is a position to help other countries... But if those other countries were good stewards too, then everyone would be in a position to help everyone else... Just as God planned...


reply posted on 28-2-2010 @ 10:46 PM by AlreadyGone
Hi ...I hope you don't include all churches in your assertations that tithing is a racket. The church I grew up in and attended for 38 years had a pastor that worked a public job. The money paid to him helped cover his costs of driving across three counties to visit sick and distressed family members, at home and in hospitals.

I agree with most of your ideas, but remember, there are some good churches out there too. Our tithes cover the costs of our church... heat, lights, materials and lesson books... they also cover portions donated to local missions, rescue and emergency relief missions...some of which are at work in Haiti and Chilie as we read this. We support local kitchens, a food pantry, a local charity that provides the needs of families and single parents. We help support a local relief charity which retrofits distressed homes, provides furniture like beds, cribs, stoves, heaters, etc.

Our pastor is retired and serves our church...for a small salary. He is also compensated for gas. He should be paid something... try answering phone calls at 3am because someone is on the verge of dying, and driving 60 miles one way to the main cardiac unit in the nearest city.

Like you, I question the intent of churches that put so much into windows, gyms, paved parking lots. But, there are some good churches out there... please, don't just label an entire religion or faith or effort because of the trash. There is good and bad in any group, even churches... the Bible addresses this.

Remember, Jesus said in Matthew 7: I will not answer to everyone that calls my name...depart from me, for I never knew you.


reply posted on 28-2-2010 @ 10:47 PM by Yissachar1

Consider this though, A church that provides food for the hungry,, and clothing for the poor, and shelter for the homeless, needs to keep the heat and lights on.
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post by Stormdancer777



That is what what offerings are for... but if people kept it simple, and concentrated on their community, then cooking a meals at home and serving them outside or in a tent will do too.. It takes a community to take care of a community as much as it takes a village to raise a kid... You dont need a flashy stage, power point and huge stage productions to do it.. Just, love and a willing heart...


reply posted on 28-2-2010 @ 10:52 PM by Stormdancer777
Originally posted by Yissachar1


Consider this though, A church that provides food for the hungry,, and clothing for the poor, and shelter for the homeless, needs to keep the heat and lights on.
reply to
post by Stormdancer777



That is what what offerings are for... but if people kept it simple, and concentrated on their community, then cooking a meals at home and serving them outside or in a tent will do too.. It takes a community to take care of a community as much as it takes a village to raise a kid... You dont need a flashy stage, power point and huge stage productions to do it.. Just, love and a willing heart...


I agree. 100%.

Christ message was a simple one, feed the hungry, cloth the naked, love one another.

The simple act of love would illuminate all the sins of the world.
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