*Video* The Shocking Truth About Public Schools, page 1
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reply posted on 28-2-2010 @ 04:02 PM by LostNemesis
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
Ok...I watched the video...here is my opinion.

Kids like him who see "quadratic equations" and other "confusing concepts" as useless...simply do not have the intelligence to see the power these "confusing concepts" have. So instead of admiting that they are over their head and they don't have the intelligence to understand them...they lash out and say they are useless. They do exactly what he is doing to push the blame of his failure onto the "system". Then he can feel like HE is the one who is right, HE is the one who is intelligent, and HE can criticize all the others who decide to stay in school, actually LEARN the difficult concepts and topics, get good jobs and become successful (which for some reason he thinks is evil).


Maybe he is the one that is right, and all of the "confusing concepts" are not right -for him-. Some people can clearly feel what is right for them.
This is JUST LIKE Doctors who resent patients that show themselves to know their own body better than the Doctor.
He is an expert, how does this uneducated person know what is going on?

This need to demonize people for being DIFFERENT than the carbon copy that is everybody else, is what discourages people from the ability to think for themselves.

For an interesting idea of what I mean, look up how many people are on Anti-Depressants today. So many people living with constant depression, could very well be because of this un-stimulating existence that society calls "Succeeding".



reply posted on 28-2-2010 @ 04:06 PM by LostNemesis
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I also wanted to add, to go with my thoughts on Anti-Depressants, we are DRUGGING children that don't fit into the mold of what society thinks CHILDREN need to act like!!!

We are forcing kids to act like everybody else, even if it means we need to discourage creativity and DRUG THEM.

The day to day repetitiveness that school indoctrinates kids into, is not natural! It is killing technological and other advancements that we would have, if people were ENCOURAGED to be creative.


Sorry to rant, not trying to insult anyone that disagrees with me. But, I really think there is something to the amount of people that need to be DRUGGED into submission!


reply posted on 28-2-2010 @ 04:08 PM by recycled
reply to post by kinda kurious



I am new to posting here. I am not very fluent in the world of referenced writing, resulting in a large thread with many sources to prove a point from all angles. I will however leave this for now, and if my small children allow me time to sit and spend the hour or so it will take to form such a thread but rest assured the public school system in America is not our friend. At the end of the day it doesn't take much more than following the very short trail from your local public school straight to the Federal Government.
right-mind.us...
This is a good place to start though.

[edit on 28-2-2010 by recycled]


reply posted on 28-2-2010 @ 04:25 PM by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by LostNemesis



Maybe he is the one that is right, and all of the "confusing concepts" are not right -for him-. Some people can clearly feel what is right for them.


But this isn't what he is doing. He is saying that he is right for EVERYONE. That for those that stay in school are just mindless fools who can't think for themselves. He does this because he NEEDS to feel like he isn't just unable to grasp these complex concepts...he NEEDS to feel like the ones learning these concept s are the ones that can't think critically.

Look, I don't like the public school system...not because the concepts they attempt to teach, but because the teachers for the most part aren't intelligent enough to understand the concepts. They are probably the lowest paid college grad...we have morons teaching kids. I wasn't a "good" student. I got in trouble all the time for questioning teachers...but I questioned them on THEIR UNDERSTANDING of the subject matter...because I think I understood it better than they did.

But this kid is complaining that they are teaching "useless" concepts"...he says this while showing math equations. I don't care how big of a conspiracy buff you are...I don't think anyone can say math is useless. It is complex...and if you don't understand it then it does seem useless. But if you do understand it...it is very powerful.


I'm sorry...I don't agree with this kid. School can only indoctrinate you if you let it...but so can anything in this world...including CONSPIRACY THEORIES. It happesn every day on ATS...people believe stories or hoaxes every day without questioning them. In a way...you could say people who push conspiracy theories indoctrinate people into always questioning the mainstream thought...but to never question the conspiratorial thought.


reply posted on 28-2-2010 @ 05:14 PM by burntheships
Well call it prepostorus, but please that can only apply if it is not true.
If it is true, then of course it is preposterous.

But not in the manner in which Kinda Kurious said, but in the manner that even as Nation upon Nation is tumbled by the banking cabal, people remain willfully ignorant.

Those who control education will over a period of several generations control a nation. The Rockefellers have for five or six decades been a controlling influence in the direction of American education.


one of the first areas into which John D. invested his money was education. Daddy Oilbucks put his assistant, Fred Gates, in charge of his General Education Board. Gates tipped the Rockefeller philosophy on education in the Board's Occasional Paper No.1;

In our dreams we have limitless resources and the people yield themselves with perfect docility to our molding hands. The present educational conventions fade from our minds, and unhampered by tradition, we work our own good will upon a grateful and responsive rural folk.

......To this end the Rockefeller and Carnegie foundations, which often had interlocking directorates and many times acted in unison, began in the early Thirties to back John Dewey and his Marxist educationalists with enormous amounts of money.

........ In these Rockefeller-and-Carnegie established vineyards worked many of the principal characters in the story of the suborning of American education. Here foundations nurtured some of the most ardent academic advocates of upsetting the American system and supplanting it with a Socialist state....

The Carnegie and Rockefeller foundations had jumped into the financing of education and the social sciences with both Left feet. For example, the foundations (principally Carnegie and Rockefeller) stimulated two-thirds of the total endowment funding of all institutions of higher learning in America during the first third of this century. During this period the Carnegie-Rockefeller complex supplied 20 % of the total income of colleges and universities and became in fact, if not in name, a sort of U.S. Ministry of Education. The result was a sharp Socialist-Fascist turn. As Rene Wormser, Counsel for the Reece Committee, reports:

A very powerful complex of foundations and allied organizations has developed over the years to exercise a high degree of control over education. Part of this complex, and ultimately responsible for it, are the Rockefeller and Carnegie groups of foundations.

These foundations were, by way of grants amounting to hundreds of millions of dollars, responsible for the nationwide acceptance of avowed socialist John Dewey's theories of progressive education and permissiveness -the products of which have been marching on our college campuses for the past two decades.

Traditionalist teachers, who had been strongly resisting Deweyism, were swamped by education propagandists backed with a flood of Rockefeller-Carnegie dollars. At the same time the National Education Association, the country's chief education lobby, was also financed largely by the Rockfellers and Carnegie foundations.

It, too, threw its considerable weight behind the Dewey philosophies. As an NEA report maintained in 1934:

.......Since America's public school system was decentralized, the foundations had concentrated on influencing schools of education (particularly Columbia, the spawning ground for Deweyism), and on financing the writing of textbooks which were subsequently adopted nationwide. These foundation-produced textbooks were so heavily slanted in favor of socialism that Wormser concluded:"- It is difficult to believe that the Rockefeller Foundation and the National Education Association could have supported these textbooks. But the fact is that Rockefeller financed them and the N.E.A. promoted them very widely.-

.........It goes without saying that, by controlling the textbooks, the progressivists gained an open sesame to the minds of millions of students in the government schools. As John T. Flynn observed, it wasn't necessary to poison every glass of water coming out of every tap in a given community. It was necessary only to drop one cup of poison into the reservoir.

So successful was this conspiracy that by June of 1955, the Progressive Education Association which had been founded by John Dewey officially disbanded. Dr. H. Gordon Hullfish, the Association's president, explained:

Founded in 1919 the PEA was a protest movement against traditional education, based in large part up on the philosophy of John Dewey. One reason for PEA's end is that many of the practices. It has advocated have been adopted by the nation's schools.

This progressive education is Rockefeller education. After all, they planned for it, they promoted it, and they paid for it!

www.whale.to...


Excellent post and video.

S&F!




[edit on 28-2-2010 by burntheships]



reply posted on 28-2-2010 @ 05:16 PM by ganjoa
reply to post by kinda kurious



No offense intended: you really crack me up
Schools teach us how to learn. They establish order and routine in an otherwise chaotic world. Sure you have to conform but that is the price of success in a capitalist society.

Ouch! Learning being contingent on order and routine. Capitalistic success based on conformity. And - I might add - wonderfully dry coming from an avatar epitomising (sp?) elitism! To a certain extent you have an excellent point for most of the populace. Obviously this kid already has critical thinking and communications skills atypical of the general public (If it's really a kid's production). Too bad he didn't experience teachers that understood the subject matter - or the process where learning could occur. Brainpower (creativity and intelligence), will (motivation+inspiration), a healthy dose of scepticism (contrariness) make great fundamentals for learning.

Thanks for the trip!

gj
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