NIST: Incompetent or Deliberately Covering Up Evidence of Molten Steel?, page 1
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reply posted on 28-2-2010 @ 09:00 AM by Sean48
reply to post by _BoneZ_



This is typical of NIST.

They were given an answer to their problem, collapsed buildings.

And where told to find a pheasible explanation to how it happened.

They way they wrote off Controlled Demolition Theory is a joke.

They "asked" people around the site, if they "saw" or "heard" demolition,

thats how they investigated Controlled Demolition. NIST is a joke , and their

findings are even funnier.

Their explanation for Building 7 .. Fires and Phenomena.

WTF is Phenomena , Another first for Sept 11.

[edit on 28-2-2010 by Sean48]


reply posted on 28-2-2010 @ 10:01 AM by ugie1028
reply to post by _BoneZ_



It was willfully ignored.

NIST and commission report are lies! Hell a High School physics teacher corrected them!

If a HS physics teacher can... debunk NIST, i wonder what else they lied about

Molten metal was still found oozing 6-8 weeks later.

they denied it because... well to hide those pesky little thermate/thermite reactions. They had all the reason in the world to lie... they woke the American beast that day... but to their dismay its currently backfiring on them. (just wait until the real investigation takes place...)

take that picture away of molten steel... add in a lot of fluff, 19 hijackers with box cutters and you have one good ol conspiracy!



reply posted on 28-2-2010 @ 05:12 PM by Crito
The evidence was in the FEMA report, so there's absolutely no way it could have been an accidental omission... unless you're claiming they were completely incompetent and didn't even read the FEMA report, in which case I don't see how you could use their conclusions for anything other than toilet paper.

SOURCE:
www.fema.gov...
Evidence of a severe high temperature corrosion attack on the steel, including oxidation and sulfication with subsequent intragranular melting, was readily visible in the near-surface microstructure. A liquid eutectic mixture containing primarily iron, oxygen, and sulfur formed during this hot corrosion attack on the steel. This sulfur-rich liquid penetrated preferentially down grain boundaries of the steel, severely weakening the beam...


It is much more difficult to tell if melting has occurred in the grain boundary regions in this steel as was observed in the A36 steel from WTC 7. It is possible and likely, however, that even if grain boundary melting did not occur, substantial penetration by a solid state diffusion mechanism would have occurred as evidenced by the high concentration of sulfides in the grain interiors near the oxide layer. Temperatures in this region of the steel were likely to be in the range of 700–800 °C (1,290–1,470 °F).


In summary: OFFICE FIRES MY ARSE!

[edit on 28-2-2010 by Crito]


reply posted on 1-3-2010 @ 03:26 AM by seethelight
reply to post by _BoneZ_



So if the Truther movement is wrong about one thing, how can we trust anything you guys say?

We already know that Stephen Jones has been wrong about several things, so no trust for him either.

Considering all the infighting in the truther movement, you all think other truthers are wrong about lots of things, it's safe to assume that none of you are actually right and we can just ignore further posts.

Because, like YOU said, if someone is wrong about one thing, never trust them about anything.

Great logic, applied to your movement's many mistakes.


reply posted on 1-3-2010 @ 04:14 AM by seethelight
reply to post by Crito



Name another building like WTC7 that has been allowed to burn for over 6 hours without attempts to put out the fire.


reply posted on 1-3-2010 @ 08:39 AM by _BoneZ_
Originally posted by seethelight
So if the Truther movement is wrong about one thing, how can we trust anything you guys say? Great logic, applied to your movement's many mistakes.

There is a big difference between honesty and dishonesty and you're being dishonest here.

There is also a big difference between making mistakes and purposely lying. The truth movement may have been wrong about a few things, but that is due to honest errors or mistakes.

NIST either blatantly lied to cover up damning evidence or is willfully incompetent about the molten steel at the WTC. If you blatantly lie or are willfully incompetent about one thing, you lose credibility about everything else. Therefore:


Originally posted by seethelight
How many of you have read any of this?:
www.nist.gov...

That can't be trusted anymore after the above facts have been uncovered.


Originally posted by seethelight
Name another building like WTC7 that has been allowed to burn for over 6 hours without attempts to put out the fire.

Is allowing a building to burn for over 20 hours without attempts to put out the fire good enough for you?








As you can see, although some of the weaker outer steel columns did fail, the building still stood tall and strong, even with a heavy crane still sitting on top. Oh, and you never saw this kind of inferno at the WTC in any of the 3 buildings, let alone for 20 hours as compared to the measly 56 minutes for the south tower.



reply posted on 1-3-2010 @ 11:52 PM by GenRadek
reply to post by Crito



I guess some people around here tend to forget how long the debris was buried for, and how chemical reactions can also create conditions where the steel gets destroyed.

Case in point:
Iron Burns!

huh, steel buried for weeks, exposed to high temps, and a caustic environment, and rusting in a large pile. Methinks some people ought to read up on chemistry and the processes of oxidation in its many forms.


reply posted on 1-3-2010 @ 11:59 PM by GenRadek
reply to post by _BoneZ_



Its just too bad that for Madrid's Windsor Tower, the steel only began to fall apart within two hours of being engulfed in flames.

The only reason it didnt fall was the steel-reinforced concrete core. And it was quite alarge core with concrete/steel pillars as well. Hmm much different than say WTC7 isnt it? I wonder if Windsor DIDNT have a concrete core, what the outcome would have been.

Windsor Tower Fire Case Review


reply posted on 2-3-2010 @ 12:17 AM by bsbray11
reply to post by GenRadek



excuse

An excuse is a reason which you give in order to explain why something has been done or has not been done, or in order to avoid doing something.


www.google.com...|en&hl=en&q=excuse


investigation

an official examination of the facts about a situation, crime, etc.


www.google.com...|en&hl=en&q=investigation



Now trying your damnedest to figure out what the above definitions mean and then tell me which you just posted.
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