reply to post by without_prejudice
Yes, it did get removed, saying it was a "violation" on YT's site. I found a DIFFERENT Link for it, and a mod was kind enough to replace the
original dead link with the alternative one. I have no idea why YT yanked the first one, as there is nothing on there that was out of their T & C that
I could gather. At least this other link has been allowed to stay for a couple of days.
*video* Mysterious Deaths of 911 Witnesses (MUST SEE), page 7
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reply posted on 3-3-2010 @ 10:23 AM by Antikythera
reply to post by DimensionalDetective
This is mind-numbing! I hope somebody can prove that this isn't true! I do believe where there's smoke there tends to be fire - but I pray this is not true! Just the thought is turning my stomach. What's worse is that I deeply believe our govt. is fully able and willing to commit such acts and have done so time and again. I'm going to have to take some more time digging into this. My friends and family just look and me and shake their heads. They say - "Come on girl - wake up! There is no more good in the world and you have to accept that". Maybe they're right.................
This is mind-numbing! I hope somebody can prove that this isn't true! I do believe where there's smoke there tends to be fire - but I pray this is not true! Just the thought is turning my stomach. What's worse is that I deeply believe our govt. is fully able and willing to commit such acts and have done so time and again. I'm going to have to take some more time digging into this. My friends and family just look and me and shake their heads. They say - "Come on girl - wake up! There is no more good in the world and you have to accept that". Maybe they're right.................
reply posted on 3-3-2010 @ 10:55 AM by weedwhacker
reply to post by DimensionalDetective
Sorry, DD.....you've been spoofed by the makers of that video, especially in regards to the Beverly Eckert death "conspiracy".
Because the makers of that video included her death, I find their veracity questionable. (Also, they said she's among a 'group' of other family members 'questioning'----are they dead too?) They also allude to many "mysterious" deaths, but give no details in many cases...allegations only. BTW, do you know, have you looked into the provenance of the UTube poster, IE, does he/she have anything to sell, perhaps on a website somewhere??
Back to Mrs. Eckert---the circumstances of the Colgan Airlines 3407 KEWR-KBUF crash (operating under contract as a "Continental Connection" flight for Continental Airlines) are well-documented, and the final NTSB report released.
As an airline pilot myself it is perfectly evident, to me, how the two pilots were at fault. (Maybe the 'claim' is that they were "in" on it??? Willing to suicide for the 'cause'?)
Somehow, I seriously doubt that scenario.
In a nutshell, the pilots were distracted, and making mistakes. A 'chain' of minor mistakes, if not caught, can lead to a major accident, which is why most airline training departments use Human Resources Management techniques included in initial training, and re-current training curriculums today.
They were using the autopilot that evening, in known icing conditions, even though the airplane's Operations Manual specifically prohibited it.
At one point the First Officer selected an airspeed slower than it should have been, and the A/P dutifully complied. The Captain did not double-check her inputs, missed the mistake.
As far as I know, that type of airplane doesn't have what we call 'Alpha-floor' protection (I can look into it) which you find in some airplanes (mostly Airbus models) which would automatically over-ride the pilots airspeed selection.
Finally, when the speed bled off below what was needed to fly, a stall began to develop, and the Captain incorrectly handled the situation, causing the disaster. This was made, much, much worse because the First Officer retracted the flaps, in the middle of the impending stall condition!!!! Uncommanded!!! Stupid, stupid, stupid!!!
(Maybe SHE was the culprit, and was paid to "do it"???) Yeah, right....new ATS 'conspiracy'.
Here, you may read more in-depth for yourselves:
www.ntsb.gov...
AND:
www.ntsb.gov...
Here's the animation:
www.ntsb.gov...
I'll be happy to explain anything else that you may not understand, from the CVR transcript
Wished to add one more thing, as you watch the animation---pay attention to the EADI display, on the left. The vertical 'tape' display left side of instrument is airspeed, the red hashed bar is computer-calculated as obviously, below safe flying speed, you can see how it changes as flaps are extended (that lowers stall speed). Vertical 'tape' right side is the altitude.
[edit on 3 March 2010 by weedwhacker]
Sorry, DD.....you've been spoofed by the makers of that video, especially in regards to the Beverly Eckert death "conspiracy".
Because the makers of that video included her death, I find their veracity questionable. (Also, they said she's among a 'group' of other family members 'questioning'----are they dead too?) They also allude to many "mysterious" deaths, but give no details in many cases...allegations only. BTW, do you know, have you looked into the provenance of the UTube poster, IE, does he/she have anything to sell, perhaps on a website somewhere??
Back to Mrs. Eckert---the circumstances of the Colgan Airlines 3407 KEWR-KBUF crash (operating under contract as a "Continental Connection" flight for Continental Airlines) are well-documented, and the final NTSB report released.
As an airline pilot myself it is perfectly evident, to me, how the two pilots were at fault. (Maybe the 'claim' is that they were "in" on it??? Willing to suicide for the 'cause'?)
Somehow, I seriously doubt that scenario.
In a nutshell, the pilots were distracted, and making mistakes. A 'chain' of minor mistakes, if not caught, can lead to a major accident, which is why most airline training departments use Human Resources Management techniques included in initial training, and re-current training curriculums today.
They were using the autopilot that evening, in known icing conditions, even though the airplane's Operations Manual specifically prohibited it.
At one point the First Officer selected an airspeed slower than it should have been, and the A/P dutifully complied. The Captain did not double-check her inputs, missed the mistake.
As far as I know, that type of airplane doesn't have what we call 'Alpha-floor' protection (I can look into it) which you find in some airplanes (mostly Airbus models) which would automatically over-ride the pilots airspeed selection.
Finally, when the speed bled off below what was needed to fly, a stall began to develop, and the Captain incorrectly handled the situation, causing the disaster. This was made, much, much worse because the First Officer retracted the flaps, in the middle of the impending stall condition!!!! Uncommanded!!! Stupid, stupid, stupid!!!
(Maybe SHE was the culprit, and was paid to "do it"???) Yeah, right....new ATS 'conspiracy'.
Here, you may read more in-depth for yourselves:
www.ntsb.gov...
AND:
www.ntsb.gov...
Here's the animation:
www.ntsb.gov...
I'll be happy to explain anything else that you may not understand, from the CVR transcript
Wished to add one more thing, as you watch the animation---pay attention to the EADI display, on the left. The vertical 'tape' display left side of instrument is airspeed, the red hashed bar is computer-calculated as obviously, below safe flying speed, you can see how it changes as flaps are extended (that lowers stall speed). Vertical 'tape' right side is the altitude.
[edit on 3 March 2010 by weedwhacker]
reply posted on 3-3-2010 @ 03:33 PM by spy66
reply to post by without_prejudice
I couldn't agree with you more. This challenge is very tough. But we can partial blame our selves for the position we have put our selves in.
We are playing on a stage that is created for us to play on. Just look at every thing that is presented. It's very obvious. But most people are not trained to see it. We jump to conclusions way to fast based on what we observe.
We can all see that there is something that doesn't make sense at all with 911. That is the stage they have created for us to play on. The 911 report proves it. It's inconsistent and open to doubt. The 911 stage is obviously created to put the people up against each other.
The 911 presentation,the videos/media is without doubt intended on creating doubt in the public.
Do you know why there is so much disagreement about 911 on ATS and publicly?
-It's because "We" are trying to "prove" to "Each Other" that it was a inside job. Do you see it!!! We are put up against each other to prove this event regardless of the 911 report. Because the 911 report was intentionally created that way. Because the government is trying to hide something.
We are playing on the stage which they set for us to play on. Its a perfect cover up. Because we will never agree with each other, and they know it. We don't even have any authority in the matter the way we play on the stage now. And they know that to.
If we want to figure this out. we have to get of the stage we are playing on right now. We have to stop working against each other the way we do now. Both sides would like to know the truth. That should be every once main focus. At the moment we have two camps, where one camp is trying to prove something to the other camp. The authority is just watching our game from the side lines.
We have to see what we are doing is not helping. We have to be smart and ask the sceptics for support. We have to use them as a part of our team and not as our competitor. What can they help us with that would make this work. That should be our focus an goals. That is the only way we ever will be able to unite to reach our main goal. The truth.
Even the sceptics know that 911 smells fishy. They to are very curious about knowing the truth. So we do have a common interest.
We have to stop trying to convince the skeptics that we are right. We have start attacking the authority about the doubt we have as a team.
I bet if you put truther's and skeptics together you will have one hell of a unity. All we have to agree on is wanting to know the truth.
[edit on 27.06.08 by spy66]
I couldn't agree with you more. This challenge is very tough. But we can partial blame our selves for the position we have put our selves in.
We are playing on a stage that is created for us to play on. Just look at every thing that is presented. It's very obvious. But most people are not trained to see it. We jump to conclusions way to fast based on what we observe.
We can all see that there is something that doesn't make sense at all with 911. That is the stage they have created for us to play on. The 911 report proves it. It's inconsistent and open to doubt. The 911 stage is obviously created to put the people up against each other.
The 911 presentation,the videos/media is without doubt intended on creating doubt in the public.
Do you know why there is so much disagreement about 911 on ATS and publicly?
-It's because "We" are trying to "prove" to "Each Other" that it was a inside job. Do you see it!!! We are put up against each other to prove this event regardless of the 911 report. Because the 911 report was intentionally created that way. Because the government is trying to hide something.
We are playing on the stage which they set for us to play on. Its a perfect cover up. Because we will never agree with each other, and they know it. We don't even have any authority in the matter the way we play on the stage now. And they know that to.
If we want to figure this out. we have to get of the stage we are playing on right now. We have to stop working against each other the way we do now. Both sides would like to know the truth. That should be every once main focus. At the moment we have two camps, where one camp is trying to prove something to the other camp. The authority is just watching our game from the side lines.
We have to see what we are doing is not helping. We have to be smart and ask the sceptics for support. We have to use them as a part of our team and not as our competitor. What can they help us with that would make this work. That should be our focus an goals. That is the only way we ever will be able to unite to reach our main goal. The truth.
Even the sceptics know that 911 smells fishy. They to are very curious about knowing the truth. So we do have a common interest.
We have to stop trying to convince the skeptics that we are right. We have start attacking the authority about the doubt we have as a team.
I bet if you put truther's and skeptics together you will have one hell of a unity. All we have to agree on is wanting to know the truth.
[edit on 27.06.08 by spy66]
reply posted on 3-3-2010 @ 03:40 PM by impressme
reply to post by weedwhacker
Since you are given your opinion on this situation, couldn’t it be possible that all these people were killed, because they knew to much?
Since you are given your opinion on this situation, couldn’t it be possible that all these people were killed, because they knew to much?
reply posted on 3-3-2010 @ 03:43 PM by weedwhacker
reply to post by impressme
HOW were most of them killed, then? Not mentioned in the video for all of them.
And, surely there are easier (with less collateral damage) ways to have killed Mrs. Eckert???
BECAUSE there is no way that her death was 'planned', not when the details of the event are brought to light.....it was fully investigated....unless it's just another 'conspiracy'??
When will the madness stop?
HOW were most of them killed, then? Not mentioned in the video for all of them.
And, surely there are easier (with less collateral damage) ways to have killed Mrs. Eckert???
BECAUSE there is no way that her death was 'planned', not when the details of the event are brought to light.....it was fully investigated....unless it's just another 'conspiracy'??
When will the madness stop?
reply posted on 3-3-2010 @ 03:48 PM by impressme
reply to post by weedwhacker
You still have not answered my question.
Is it possible they could have been killed because they knew too much?
I am not asking you how they were killed, or who killed them, I am just asking you is it possible?
HOW were most of them killed, then? Not mentioned in the video for all of them.
You still have not answered my question.
Is it possible they could have been killed because they knew too much?
I am not asking you how they were killed, or who killed them, I am just asking you is it possible?
reply posted on 3-3-2010 @ 03:52 PM by DCDAVECLARKE
Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by impressme
HOW were most of them killed, then? Not mentioned in the video for all of them.
And, surely there are easier (with less collateral damage) ways to have killed Mrs. Eckert???
BECAUSE there is no way that her death was 'planned', not when the details of the event are brought to light.....it was fully investigated....unless it's just another 'conspiracy'??
When will the madness stop?
Itll end when the People wake up in mass!
reply posted on 3-3-2010 @ 03:58 PM by NoJoker13
No the funnier thing is that these people who are "witnesses" of something are all getting killed. Thats like saying if my entire family were to die
tommorow and that wouldnt be mysterious. People with this big of a connection all dieing at one time? Thats extremely fishy. Also I'd like everyone
to check out this site: en.wikipedia.org...
Ya it's wiki but it shows the amount of suicides per 100,000 people per gender for the last 30 years. Per the 100,000 males 15-20 will die from this cause yearly. Per the 100,000 females only 1-5 will die yearly. So with that information given how likely is it really for all of these people, sharing a common viewpoint, to die so mysteriously? The odds are extremely low considering we're talking only about 33,000 deaths yearly when the total population is about 305 million.
[edit on 3-3-2010 by NoJoker13]
Ya it's wiki but it shows the amount of suicides per 100,000 people per gender for the last 30 years. Per the 100,000 males 15-20 will die from this cause yearly. Per the 100,000 females only 1-5 will die yearly. So with that information given how likely is it really for all of these people, sharing a common viewpoint, to die so mysteriously? The odds are extremely low considering we're talking only about 33,000 deaths yearly when the total population is about 305 million.
[edit on 3-3-2010 by NoJoker13]
reply posted on 3-3-2010 @ 04:11 PM by weedwhacker
reply to post by impressme
Oh, you already know the answer to this! Baiting tactic number 3....
What a ridiculous attempt to "spin"!
You should try to remember the difference between the word "possible" and the word "probable". Throw in the word "likely" as well.
It is just as 'possible' that they were all killed because they 'knew' too much is it is 'likely' that I will be killed for 'knowing' too much!
(...Or winning the MegaMillions Lottery, for that matter. In fact, I betcha the odds of ME winning a lottery are better than those odds, from that video as alleged in the OP).
Oh, you already know the answer to this! Baiting tactic number 3....
Is it possible they could have been killed because they knew too much?
What a ridiculous attempt to "spin"!
You should try to remember the difference between the word "possible" and the word "probable". Throw in the word "likely" as well.
It is just as 'possible' that they were all killed because they 'knew' too much is it is 'likely' that I will be killed for 'knowing' too much!
(...Or winning the MegaMillions Lottery, for that matter. In fact, I betcha the odds of ME winning a lottery are better than those odds, from that video as alleged in the OP).
reply posted on 3-3-2010 @ 04:51 PM by impressme
reply to post by weedwhacker
You still refuse to answer a “simple question” that a child can answer.
Could it be possible?
This is not a trick question.
How is my question spin?
Baiting tactic number 3.... to what?
Answer the question that I asked you? What are you afraid of?
Is it possible that these people could have been killed for knowing too much?
HOW were most of them killed, then? Not mentioned in the video for all of them.
You still have not answered my question.
Is it possible they could have been killed because they knew too much?
I am not asking you how they were killed, or who killed them, I am just asking you is it possible?
You still refuse to answer a “simple question” that a child can answer.
Could it be possible?
This is not a trick question.
What a ridiculous attempt to "spin"!
How is my question spin?
Oh, you already know the answer to this! Baiting tactic number 3....
Baiting tactic number 3.... to what?
Answer the question that I asked you? What are you afraid of?
Is it possible that these people could have been killed for knowing too much?
reply posted on 3-3-2010 @ 04:56 PM by weedwhacker
reply to post by impressme
Ladies and gentlemen, exhibit 'A'.
Your question WAS answered, quite obviously, in the post just above, that you butchered to death by quoting out of context.
I said 'spin'
I meant it
It is obvious, too
Ladies and gentlemen, exhibit 'A'.
Your question WAS answered, quite obviously, in the post just above, that you butchered to death by quoting out of context.
I said 'spin'
I meant it
It is obvious, too
reply posted on 3-3-2010 @ 05:12 PM by impressme
reply to post by weedwhacker
There is no spin here.
The only one that has tried to turn this “simple question” into all the twisted garbage is you.
Still waiting?
You can’t admit that there is a possibility.
Ladies and gentlemen, exhibit 'A'.
Your question WAS answered, quite obviously, in the post just above, that you butchered to death by quoting out of context.
I said 'spin'
I meant it
It is obvious, too
There is no spin here.
The only one that has tried to turn this “simple question” into all the twisted garbage is you.
Answer the question that I asked you? What are you afraid of?
Is it possible that these people could have been killed for knowing too much?
Still waiting?
You can’t admit that there is a possibility.
reply posted on 4-3-2010 @ 07:04 AM by conar
Barry Jennings and Schroeder the fireman spoke about finding dead people in strange places. These dead people could have been the passengers aboard
the flights, especially Flight 77
More people that probably were killed !
John P. O'neill, the #1 Osama Bin Laden expert died in WTC, he had just been assigned there.
en.wikipedia.org...
WTC designer also died in WTC
Kenneth Johannemann's testimony (5:48)
[edit on 4-3-2010 by conar]
More people that probably were killed !
John P. O'neill, the #1 Osama Bin Laden expert died in WTC, he had just been assigned there.
en.wikipedia.org...
WTC designer also died in WTC
Kenneth Johannemann's testimony (5:48)
[edit on 4-3-2010 by conar]
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